HapHaszard Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/santana-moss-sued-over-lease-payment/2011/06/13/AGn0cPTH_blog.html#pagebreak By Mike Jones Washington Redskins wide receiver Santana Moss has been sued by a Miami businessman who accuses him and others of defaulting on a lease for a dry cleaning business that was operated by members of the football player’s family. According to court documents filed June 4 in Miami-Dade County, Stadium Corners Shopping Center LLC contends that 3 Kings Dry Cleaners Inc. owes $24,151.78 in back rent, plus accelerated rent and court and attorney’s fees. In all, Stadium Corners is seeking $308,870.64. Craig Bernstein, owner of Stadium Corners shopping center in Miami Gardens, said that 3 Kings Dry Cleaners, which lists Moss as its president in a filing with Florida’s secretary of state, vacated the property in the past few months but had agreed to pay the rent owed until that date. But payment never was received and Bernstein said the dry cleaners is now six months behind. The filing lists Lloyd Moss as vice president and Natalie Moss as secretary of 3 Kings Dry Cleaners. click on the link to continue reading ---------- Post added June-13th-2011 at 04:06 PM ---------- Sorry this was supposed to go to BRBN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operations Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 This is very exciting breaking news. Please keep us informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 How does $24k in back rent become $300k? Looks like Santana had better lawyer up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 How does $24k in back rent become $300k? Looks like Santana had better lawyer up. Well, it said it also included "accelerated rent"...that rent went from $24K to $300K in 4.5 seconds lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Well, it said it also included "accelerated rent"...that rent went from $24K to $300K in 4.5 seconds lol... That, court fees, and lawyer fees. What I don't understand is why Santana is being sued, unless he put down the money to start it up and he signed (or co-signed) on the lease. Either way, I don't really fault Moss, it's his family who operated the place who are at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 That, court fees, and lawyer fees. What I don't understand is why Santana is being sued, unless he put down the money to start it up and he signed (or co-signed) on the lease. Either way, I don't really fault Moss, it's his family who operated the place who are at fault. Moss is listed as president. I would imagine that when filing a lawsuit you list damn near everyone you can...ESPECIALLY the one who has all the $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Moss is listed as president. I would imagine that when filing a lawsuit you list damn near everyone you can...ESPECIALLY the one who has all the $$$. Oh, very true. I glossed over the OP and missed where it said he was listed as president. Makes more sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Moss was most likely a personal guarantor on the lease agreement. The fact that he's the president of the corp. is meaningless. As far as the accelearated rent is concerned, looks like it was a long term lease (maybe 5 or 10 years), so the number is not surprising, would include the total value of the lease. Shopping center has a duty to re-let the property, Moss will likely lawyer up and settlement at a figure far south of $300K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexterSackMachine Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Bernstein said a representative of Moss’s told him that the receiver would not be able to settle with him until NFL players reach new collective bargaining agreement with the league. Really? How many pay checks has he missed so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 How does $24k in back rent become $300k? Looks like Santana had better lawyer up. He's being taken to the cleaners and he is going to lose his shirt. He better pull up his pants and not hang around. bwhahhaaaaaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I am pretty sure they will settle this out of court somehow. Nothing to see here... ---------- Post added June-13th-2011 at 10:18 PM ---------- He's being taken to the cleaners and he is going to lose his shirt. He better pull up his pants and not hang around. bwhahhaaaaaa. Corny, but funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I am pretty sure they will settle this out of court somehow. Nothing to see here...---------- Post added June-13th-2011 at 10:18 PM ---------- Corny, but funny. I kid, I kid, I just think his family failed and here he is taking the rap over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 He's being taken to the cleaners and he is going to lose his shirt. He better pull up his pants and not hang around. bwhahhaaaaaa. lol...good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 He's being taken to the cleaners and he is going to lose his shirt. He better pull up his pants and not hang around. bwhahhaaaaaa. What is it with old guys and puns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 What is it with old guys and puns It's amusing how my 18 year old daughter refers to 34 year olds as "old guys" and how 34 year olds refer to 49 year olds as being "old guys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I'm 50, I am old. I call 25 year olds kids now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor of Fed Ex Field Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/16/multiple-nfl-players-face-discipline-for-gaming-investment/ Moss named in this also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/16/multiple-nfl-players-face-discipline-for-gaming-investment/Moss named in this also. The NFL players invested roughly $20 million into the project. If forced to sell before the facility reopens, the players possibly could lose a lot of their money. I don't get it, I'll never get it and to be honest I don't have a lot of sympathy. NFL players are just plain greedy. How else can you explain Mark Brunell filing for bankruptcy? Guys like Brunell and Moss have made plenty of money in their careers. Enough to live comfortably for the rest of their lives if they just invest the money with a smart, conservative, game plan. But no, they want more. And in the process end up in trouble a lot of the time. For that I really have little sympathy for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexterSackMachine Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 The NFL players invested roughly $20 million into the project. If forced to sell before the facility reopens, the players possibly could lose a lot of their money. I don't get it, I'll never get it and to be honest I don't have a lot of sympathy. NFL players are just plain greedy. How else can you explain Mark Brunell filing for bankruptcy? Guys like Brunell and Moss have made plenty of money in their careers. Enough to live comfortably for the rest of their lives if they just invest the money with a smart, conservative, game plan. But no, they want more. And in the process end up in trouble a lot of the time. For that I really have little sympathy for them. Brunell is a whole different story than the usual NFL moneyblowers. He had a large investment in real estate with partners when the market collapsed a few years back. The other partners all walked away, and he was trying to be a standup guy and pay which led to him going broke. An almost identical thing happened to Joe Gibbs early in his Redskins career. Until 2007, Real Estate looked like a rock solid investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 The NFL players invested roughly $20 million into the project. If forced to sell before the facility reopens, the players possibly could lose a lot of their money. I don't get it, I'll never get it and to be honest I don't have a lot of sympathy. NFL players are just plain greedy. How else can you explain Mark Brunell filing for bankruptcy? Guys like Brunell and Moss have made plenty of money in their careers. Enough to live comfortably for the rest of their lives if they just invest the money with a smart, conservative, game plan. But no, they want more. And in the process end up in trouble a lot of the time. For that I really have little sympathy for them. I don't see how this is greed. You don't know the business plan. The projections. The risk analysis. These guys who are losing money are not popping bottles etc. Nothing in this even says Moss is broke. He lost money in some business ventures. I don't see how this is viewed as greed. Because most business owners/investers lose money in other investments. Not everyone wants to sit on a conservative CD or Money Market. They like action! I don't see the issue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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