addicted Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 What's everyone's opinion on Bowers? When I read stuff like this http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/04/28/bowers-slid-right-out-of-the-first-round/?module=HP_cp2 It says to me that the league thinks his knees toast. For every Bull there is a Bear, so let me be Bullish for a moment. What if his knee isn't as bad as teams think and the talk about it was predraft smoke screens? At what point does the risk equal taking him? Would you support us taking a gamble on him with our first 2nd round pick if he's still on the board? Why or why not? Edit..I found this article when I was about to post this and goes into depth on this player about taking him with the 10th pick and how that would affect the team: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-draft-prospects-daquan-bowers/2011/04/26/AFGECpsE_blog.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 He's probably be on IR for this coming season. But he is really good. If he's there at 49 I think you've got to look at him. We're not going to be winning this season anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 he reminds me of Jeremy Jarmon.... in which we already have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 NFL teams clearly know something from his medicals we don't. That every team in the NFL passed on him suggests his knee is worse than we have heard. He is worth a risk at some point, but we are not a team in the position to gamble second round picks on a guy who might spend more time on IR than on the field and be done in four years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 Rings Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Jarmon does not equal Bowers at all and...if Bowers gets to the Skins...Carolina might be parting with their 2012 #1. You heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Jarmon does not equal Bowers at all and...if Bowers gets to the Skins...Carolina might be parting with their 2012 #1. You heard it here first. Jarmon is a 4-3 end with some upside as a pass rusher in the 3-4 on 3rd downs, but definitely branded for the 4-3, and has knee issues.... tell me how that is not Bowers? -and I hope you are right... Carolina already made one mistake in not waiting on Clausen and taking a possible bust, might as well make two in two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Healthy he is a stud...at this point apparently not a single team thinks he is healthy enought to pick in the first and IMO not worth burning a second round pick on...teams like the Patriots who are loaded (again) with picks could take a chance, but we cannot with our limited picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 seems like the next Justin Harrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 This draft is too important to gamble on a player with serious health concerns. Great upside but the cost of failure is too high. That said, I'm warming up to the gamble of Ryan Mallet. He's clearly the most gifted thrower, with good recognition of defenses, outstanding accuracy and a quick release. If his personal issues can be put behind him, he could be the steal of the draft as a second rounder. If you are wondering what the difference is between the two players in my mind it's simple. Physical limitations can be impossible to overcome, immaturity can be overcome with age and guidance. And oh BTW... A great QB would have a much greater impact on this team than any other player at any position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Jarmon is a 4-3 end with some upside as a pass rusher in the 3-4 on 3rd downs, but definitely branded for the 4-3, and has knee issues.... tell me how that is not Bowers? Bowers is a lot more talented than Jarmon, for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 NFL teams clearly know something from his medicals we don't. That every team in the NFL passed on him suggests his knee is worse than we have heard. He is worth a risk at some point, but we are not a team in the position to gamble second round picks on a guy who might spend more time on IR than on the field and be done in four years. He's too good of a player to have slipped this far unless his knee is really that bad. Not really interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR2Drift Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Don't need another Kelly on the team, we already got burned once on a guy with knee issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Bowers is a lot more talented than Jarmon, for starters. You know this how, exactly? He may look better now in your eyes, but Jarmon was projected to possibly be a first rounder as well if he wasn't suspended and having to go through the supplemental draft. We literally got a steal out of Jarmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You know this how, exactly? He may look better now in your eyes, but Jarmon was projected to possibly be a first rounder as well if he wasn't suspended and having to go through the supplemental draft. We literally got a steal out of Jarmon Jarmon was considered a good prospect by most reports that I read. Bowers on the other hand, if healthy, was considered a great prospect. Teams will really have to do their homework on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Jarmon started 31 times in three seasons. He was an All-SEC selection his last two years when he had a combined 100 tackles, including 23 ½ for losses with 13 ½ sacks. Bowers in his last two seasons - 113 tackles, 35 TFL, 26 Sacks... Big difference in sacks, but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Hog Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Bowers is a meast. However...with him dropping sooooo much, it makes me think teams know something we don't about his knees. If he's around at #41, I think the Skins should strongly consider him, but at this point, I'd rather the team go with Paea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRookie Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Jarmon started 31 times in three seasons. He was an All-SEC selection his last two years when he had a combined 100 tackles, including 23 ½ for losses with 13 ½ sacks.Bowers in his last two seasons - 113 tackles, 35 TFL, 26 Sacks... Big difference in sacks, but still Considering Jarmon did it in the SEC and Bowers did it in the ACC makes Jarmon look a little better...although I give the edge to Bowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Considering Jarmon did it in the SEC and Bowers did it in the ACC makes Jarmon look a little better...although I give the edge to Bowers I do agree with giving Bowers a slight edge. But what im saying is we already have Jarmon who is seasoned in our Defense. Both are not 3-4 guys, but they are similar in production in college. We basically have our own Bowers, no need to spend on a spaghetti knee that may see 1 season on the bench before finally being put on IR and then out of the league in 3 years... and does not fit our defense in any way, shape, or form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 we are in no position to win this year i think this would be a risk worth taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerdude8821 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You know this how, exactly? He may look better now in your eyes, but Jarmon was projected to possibly be a first rounder as well if he wasn't suspended and having to go through the supplemental draft. We literally got a steal out of Jarmon Yes, a steal, which reflects in his 16 games played in 2 seasons, 11 tackles, and 1 sack? Bowers has top 5 talent. Meaning, if health wasn't a concern, he would have been battling dareus, miller, and peterson for which D prospect would have been taken off the board first. The health is obviously a huge concern (which is why he dropped completely out of the 1st round) but dont compare him to jarmon in talent. If anything, you could compare the number of games the two of them could play in the first 2 seasons. Both having injuries, yet bowers top 5 pick talent, trying to compare him to a 3rd round supplemental draft guy who hasnt done anything in his first 2 years? please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Bowers is a 4-3 DE who doesn't fit our defense, with major injury concerns. I doubt he is even on our FO's radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Yes, a steal, which reflects in his 16 games played in 2 seasons, 11 tackles, and 1 sack?Bowers has top 5 talent. Meaning, if health wasn't a concern, he would have been battling dareus, miller, and peterson for which D prospect would have been taken off the board first. The health is obviously a huge concern (which is why he dropped completely out of the 1st round) but dont compare him to jarmon in talent. If anything, you could compare the number of games the two of them could play in the first 2 seasons. Both having injuries, yet bowers top 5 pick talent, trying to compare him to a 3rd round supplemental draft guy who hasnt done anything in his first 2 years? please. Youre proving my point.... They both do not fit the 'Skins defense. When they actually allow Jarmon on the field, he produces, but they never put him on the field. Not to mention the injured year. Late last season, he and Carriker with the unproven LB's were causing havoc... in the NFL, not college mind you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Think we have too many holes to take a risk on him. Let the pats or someone else do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Hog Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Think we have too many holes to take a risk on him. Let the pats or someone else do it. I really like Bowers, but I agree with this. If the Pats don't take him, the bills might at #34, or Cinci at 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I really like Bowers, but I agree with this. If the Pats don't take him, the bills might at #34, or Cinci at 35. I doubt any 3-4 team is going to take him... highly! he would fit perfectly with the Titans, Broncos, panthers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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