Y! Sports: Pat White stands almost zero chance of being on 53 man roster as a QB.

[Oldskool]

Speaking of quarterbacks, it’s time for Pat White(notes) to give up on that dream and see if he can become a latter-day Antwaan Randle El(notes). White, a second-round pick in 2009, has steadfastly said he wants to be a passer, but he has very little ability to be more than a Wildcat player, and even that is a stretch. With Henne, Chad Pennington(notes) and Tyler Thigpen(notes), White stands almost zero chance of making this team as a QB.

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Pat White-QB-Dolphins Aug. 20 - 7:42 pm et

Yahoo's Jason Cole confirms that Pat White "has very little chance" to make the Dolphins' final roster as a quarterback.

Cole, a former Dolphins beat writer, believes it's time for White to end his dream of becoming an NFL passer, and take on an Antwaan Randle El-type role. Cole was also at Dolphins camp recently. The sentiment about White in Miami is the same. He needs to be playing receiver, or perhaps retry baseball.

Source: Yahoo Sports

[kevinklein]

I made a bet with my Dolphins fan roommate. He says that White is going to get cut. I say there's no way the Fins cut someone they drafted in the 2nd round the year before. Even if he's showing no promise, you can't give up on that high a draft pick after such a short period of time.

Winner gets 6 pack of their choice bought for them.

[Conn]

Good bet on your part. I think they'll try him at WR if anything before they cut him.

[#98QBKiller]

I'm a WVU fan and that sucks but I didn't think he'd make it at the NFL level to begin with. I'd like to see him do the ARE thing and become a solid WR/special teams guy....not that ARE was good on special teams when he was here.

[Spartacus87]

I made a bet with my Dolphins fan roommate. He says that White is going to get cut. I say there's no way the Fins cut someone they drafted in the 2nd round the year before. Even if he's showing no promise, you can't give up on that high a draft pick after such a short period of time.

Winner gets 6 pack of their choice bought for them.

It will be close.

Word down here is that they really regret the pick- a lot of people say it's the worst pick in recent Dolphins history. They've just received no value for it at all, and they didn't need White in the slightest when they drafted him.

[Conn]

It will be close.

Word down here is that they really regret the pick- a lot of people say it's the worst pick in recent Dolphins history. They've just received no value for it at all, and they didn't need White in the slightest when they drafted him.

Seriously, that was the epitome of a "luxury" pick, for a team that absolutely couldn't afford it. And it seems to have failed hard.

[Major Harris]

i was leary, and it's pretty safe to say i'm the only dude on es that ever rocked pat white in his sig. i hope he either comes out of nowhere as a qb or decides to give something else a try. i'm rooting for the guy, but i never was sold on him as a qb in this league.

[Oldskool]

I made a bet with my Dolphins fan roommate. He says that White is going to get cut. I say there's no way the Fins cut someone they drafted in the 2nd round the year before. Even if he's showing no promise, you can't give up on that high a draft pick after such a short period of time.

Winner gets 6 pack of their choice bought for them.

Fins cut John Beck after only 2 years and he was an actual QB, not a hybrid "athlete" with no true position. Parcells doesn't fool around and I wouldn't doubt that he gets cut.

[kevinklein]

Fins cut John Beck after only 2 years and he was an actual QB, not a hybrid "athlete" with no true position. Parcells doesn't fool around and I wouldn't doubt that he gets cut.

True, but I think there's a big difference between one year of development and two years of development.

[Hubbs]

They won't give him one more year with Tyler ****ing Thigpen and Chad Pennington, whose shoulder is made out of Legos and middle school soldering iron? Damn. That's a bad, bad sign.

[Oldskool]

True, but I think there's a big difference between one year of development and two years of development.

There's also a difference in cutting a player that was drafted to play QB full time versus a player that was a luxury pick to insert into the wildcat, which btw they have relegated back to a gadget play and not a staple of the offense.

[Hitman21ST]

Why can't they run him in the wildcat?

[TheLongshot]

There's also a difference in cutting a player that was drafted to play QB full time versus a player that was a luxury pick to insert into the wildcat, which btw they have relegated back to a gadget play and not a staple of the offense.

There is also a difference when the people who drafted Beck were no longer associated with the team when he got cut. When Beck got cut, no one in the FO had any ties to his pick. White was picked by the current FO.

I wouldn't call White a "luxury pick" considering that they didn't have a sure thing at QB. It certainly was a risk to a certain extent to pick him that high to play at QB, but the payoff was potentially high as well, considering his athleticism. Given their commitment to the "wildcat", it made sense.

[Oldskool]

Why can't they run him in the wildcat?

Because they have really stopped using that play as anything but a gadget play. Do you really want to spend a roster slot on a bad QB that runs a trick play once in a while?

[kevinklein]

There is also a difference when the people who drafted Beck were no longer associated with the team when he got cut. When Beck got cut, no one in the FO had any ties to his pick. White was picked by the current FO. sense.

This!

Really I have no feelings toward Pat White. I just want my free beer.

[darrelgreenie]

They won't give him one more year with Tyler ****ing Thigpen and Chad Pennington, whose shoulder is made out of Legos and middle school soldering iron? Damn. That's a bad, bad sign.

Getting cut by the Fins isn't an indictment of his ability alone.

The Fins actually have a good trio of QBs.

People forget that Thigpen actually played well for the Chiefs 2 years ago.

(Don't believe me go check the stats)

Pennington has the shoulders about as strong as a waif but he's been a playoff QB for the Fins and the Jets..

Henne is a young QB with promise.

[Laxpunk2006]

Thigpen put up pretty good numbers but you also have to remember that Chan Gailey tailored that offense to him in a spread system to maximize his abilities. It's hard to run a spread offense for 16 games and I just don't think Thigpen is talented enough to justify it. I like him as a #2/spot starter but not a guy I would want to depend on full time.

I can't imagine White getting cut already after spending a high draft pick on him. Cutting Beck is easy to justify to a fanbase because they can blame it on the ole regime. Admitting you failed on a high second round pick after only a year is a completely different story.

Either way it sounds like Pat might want to start spending some time at his local batting cage if he doesn't want to catch passes from one of his other quarterbacks.

[Late Night Roach]

It would be no surprise to me at all if he gets released. He looked horrible last season; very indecisive. He also looks very frail. I've also heard that he's been absolute garbage in TC this year.

Don't believe the positive comment that Ricky Williams made about him. I think he was just trying to blow smoke up his *** to give him some confidence. Tweets and reports from the Fins camp totally contradict anything positive.

If the Dolphins wanted a real Wildcat QB they should have went after Tebow.

[darrelgreenie]

Thigpen put up pretty good numbers but you also have to remember that Chan Gailey tailored that offense to him in a spread system to maximize his abilities. It's hard to run a spread offense for 16 games and I just don't think Thigpen is talented enough to justify it. I like him as a #2/spot starter but not a guy I would want to depend on full time.

Yeah, but Thigpen isn't even the 2nd QB he's the 3rd.

That would probably give the Fins one of the best 3rd string QB in the league.

[KDawg]

Yeah, but Thigpen isn't even the 2nd QB he's the 3rd.

That would probably give the Fins one of the best 3rd string QB in the league.

Beat me to it. Thigpen is lightyears ahead of Pat White.

[darrelgreenie]

Beat me to it. Thigpen is lightyears ahead of Pat White.

I know right, its like 2008 never happened and Thigpen is some horrible QB.

[ddub52]

It will be close.

Word down here is that they really regret the pick- a lot of people say it's the worst pick in recent Dolphins history. They've just received no value for it at all, and they didn't need White in the slightest when they drafted him.

Worse than Ted Ginn Jr. with the number 9 overall?

Not even close IMO. They had Welker, and traded him only to use their number one kick on a return specialist/receiver.

[Spartacus87]

If the Dolphins wanted a real Wildcat QB they should have went after Tebow.

Tebow isn't a Wildcat QB.

You can't be a Wildcat QB unless you're a legit threat to run between the tackles on any given play. Tebow scrambled for a TD in a broken down play against Cincy and now his ribs are banged up, so his running is probably going to have to get cut back now.

Worse than Ted Ginn Jr. with the number 9 overall?

Not even close IMO. They had Welker, and traded him only to use their number one kick on a return specialist/receiver.

That's what several South Florida reporters have been saying. If I can find find the Twitter comments about it I'll post them, but it was from last week after their first preseason game so that will be tough to find.

Ginn didn't pan out, but they at least thought they were getting a dynamic return guy and burner at WR, which is something they needed. There was zero point in them drafting White.

[Late Night Roach]

Tebow isn't a Wildcat QB.

The way he played with the Gators (692 rushing attempts with 57 rushing TD's), and being that just about every snap that he takes is from the Shotgun leads me to believe otherwise.

You're technically right though. He's only considered to be a "mobile" QB.

You can't be a Wildcat QB unless you're a legit threat to run between the tackles on any given play.

At 240lbs he's built better for it than Pat is at 200lbs. I tend to consider rushing for over 2900 yds and his signature QB draw somewhat of a formidable and legitimate threat. That's why I said that Miami should have gone after him if they wanted a QB for their Wildcat scheme. Tim seems that he'd be a good fit for it; at least a better one than White. Pat just appears to be out of his league in the NFL from what I've seen from him so far.

Tebow scrambled for a TD in a broken down play against Cincy and now his ribs are banged up, so his running is probably going to have to get cut back now.

Welcome to the NFL. Had it been Pat who took that hit, he probably would have been carted of the field on a stretcher K.O.'d...again.

[Warhead36]

Worse than Ted Ginn Jr. with the number 9 overall?

Not even close IMO. They had Welker, and traded him only to use their number one kick on a return specialist/receiver.

Ginn actually won them a game all by himself last year with 2 returns for TDs against the Jets. That alone at least gives him some value, compared to White who is worthless.