No Excuses Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The double standard definitely exists and for good reason. I'll trust Shanahans judgment 10/10 times over Vinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins-Canes-Mounties Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I'm not accepting anything less than a top 50 pick on a tackle, regardless of who is GM. So if the team stays at 4 and doesn't take a tackle, I am not going to be happy. If the team trades down; picks up an extra top 50 pick; drafts another position first; but grabs a tackle with the later top 50 pick, I'm OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21Knock_U_Out Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Vinny's not with the team anymore, so this is irrelevant. Yup, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Vinny can you please get over losing your job? Yes, there is a double standard, and yes we like him better than you. Please get over it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Vinny said the Skins are picking Okung so you know that won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anar-k21 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 well realistically drafting one offensive lineman in this draft wont fix our line.... but it is a start!!!! i want some OL!!!!! just as long as it aint Bradford im happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Vinny said the Skins are picking Okung so you know that won't happen. Except that if Vinny was here, he'd probably draft Clausen. He did say that he didn't have a franchise QB while he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 How awesome would it be for Vinny to go to the Raiders. It would be the perfect storm. Vinny would actually greatly improve the Raiders. Al Davis is just that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiingspadee Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 IMO it is simple - Vinny was not competent. Shanny has a history of picking up quality OL later in the draft or even UDFA! I am going to sit back and just enjoy the ride He has gone on record talking about the trenches so I know they know what they are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I can't speak for anyone but myself, and I personally judge moves on their merits, not on who makes them. I haven't been impressed at al by Shanahan/Allen so far, so no reason to think I would give them a pass for making a bad choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjstalcup Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Except that if Vinny was here, he'd probably draft Clausen. He did say that he didn't have a franchise QB while he was here. :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paydirt Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Vinny would probably take the best player available come pickin time, regardless of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Vinny would probably take the best player available come pickin time, regardless of need. He'd trade down into the 2nd round and take two WR's & a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 All last year all I heard was that Vinny sucks because we never drafted OL. Then we suck, have a 4-12 season and people and happy that we can get a stud offensive lineman with a top 5 pick. Now all of a sudden it seems that 5 hours before the draft no one wants to get a lineman and everyone wants Berry or Bradford. The only reason I bring this up is because what if Vinny was still in charge and he didnt take an OL in the first round? I feel as though he would get castrated on this board and in the media for again not getting OL in the draft. Just a thought. What do you guys think? vinny screwed this team up so bad that he should be castrated as you suggest. cast against the Allen/Shanny combo, the Snyder/Vinny combo is like the Tyson vs Marvis Frazier fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I'm confident that if we don't take a lineman in the first round, Shanny will find a way to improve our line via a trade that doesn't involve us getting totally raped like when Cerrato was here. And I love how Cerrato blames his firing on JC not being a franchise QB. Maybe Cerrato should have listened when every coach he interviewed told him this two years ago. Guy just loves to pass the buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I can only recall ONE lineman Vinny drafted since 2000, Rinehart (sp?) with a middlin' pick. For a top 5 pick, going QB isn't bad, this is about the only decent 50/50 chance you have to draft a good one. But you'll hear me ***** here if we don't draft/trade4 one or two linemen with our remaining 3 picks or whatever other picks we get. And for the record, I hate ShanAllen going "win now" with McNabb as much as I did Vinny doing the same with Big Al and Jason Taylor. Maybe even more so, because I expect Shanahan and Allen not to act like retards, unlike...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaskinsfan Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 All last year all I heard was that Vinny sucks because we never drafted OL. Then we suck, have a 4-12 season and people and happy that we can get a stud offensive lineman with a top 5 pick. Now all of a sudden it seems that 5 hours before the draft no one wants to get a lineman and everyone wants Berry or Bradford. The only reason I bring this up is because what if Vinny was still in charge and he didnt take an OL in the first round? I feel as though he would get castrated on this board and in the media for again not getting OL in the draft. Just a thought. What do you guys think? I think Vinny has ability to evaluate talent. Where he lacks is the ability to balance that with team needs, and the overall management of a roster. That being said no I would not be happy with anything other than OL if Vinny were here, and really won't be with him not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear Our D! Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 **** no. But I trust whomever THIS regime chooses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootleg Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Thank God, Vinny isn't here! He probably would've taken Clausen at #4!!!! Not saying he is, or will be a bad quarterback, but it's obvious it would've been a huge reach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianm23 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Did the Broncos hire Vinny this past off-season? It's hard to tell with the moves they made. Either that or Al Davis found a way to hack into the Broncos phone at Radio City Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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