DRSmith Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 To me the only person who should really be upset by this is Obama and he has forgiven Reid. This is no different if Tiger's wife forgave him, yes it was dumb also but it is between the two parties involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 who cares? his career is over with by the end of this year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 isn't his career over with in November anyway? Good riddance to this kook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 George Allen's political career was absolutely ruined by a similar situation, but Harry Reid, a Democrat, gets away. For Allen, macaca was the straw that broke the camel's back. Allen had a long history of alleged racism-from decorating his office with neusses, to his adoration of the confederate flag, to incidents in his youth where he spray painted a school with racist words against white people in order to frame the "other side" and stoke a confrontation. And the rumors are way worse than that. Not defending Reid though. Obviousy a very stupid thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 A Republican would already be packing his desk, Reid isn't getting a slap on the wrist... Until November that is. Yes, well there are reasons why Republicans are defensive regarding their stances on race-related issues. They earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yes, well there are reasons why Republicans are defensive regarding their stances on race-related issues. They earned it. Lincoln was a bit racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Lincoln was a bit racist Lincoln was a liberal and a progressive. I was speaking to more recent times though. There is nothing constant about the foundations of a political party over 150 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Lincoln was a liberal and a progressive. I was speaking to more recent times though. There is nothing constant about the foundations of a political party over 150 years. Of course, let's forget all about the Southern Democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Of course, let's forget all about the Southern Democrat. ...Who mostly all became Republicans once the Dem party sided with Civil Rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Of course, let's forget all about the Southern Democrat. It's pretty clear who the South sides with. 150 years ago I (a liberal) would have been considered a "radical Republican." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie4redskins Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Hypocrisy. http://weeklystandard.com/tws/daily/daily.asp#blog-307820 It seems to be that we can forgive a 100-year-old senator for some of the indiscretion of his youth, but, what is more difficult to forgive is the current president of the U.S. Senate (Lott) suggesting we had been better off if we had followed a segregationist path in this country after all of the battles and fights for civil rights and all the work that we still have to do," said Obama. "The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott. If they have to stand for something, they have to stand up and say this is not the person we want representing our party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Of course, let's forget all about the Southern Democrat. Of course, let's all forget that, 40 years ago, "Southern Democrats" changed their name to "Republican Base". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Of course, let's all forget that, 40 years ago, "Southern Democrats" changed their name to "Republican Base". maybe even 45 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Hypocrisy. Valid point. Not identical situations, (And I'm certain that a discussion of "Which comment was worse?" would instantly divide along completely predictable lines. ), but there's certainly enough in common to use as an example. Let's pretend that the situations are identical. Question to the folks making arguments similar to this one: A Republican would already be packing his desk, Reid isn't getting a slap on the wrist... Until November that is. Did Trent Lott pack his desk, days after making his comment? And were you calling for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 If this were a Republican, he would look like the devil and be forced out of office. Since he is a Democrat, he can say whatever he wants without getting in any serious trouble. Probably... http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/10/top-democrat-defends-reid/?feat=home_headlines Top Democrat defends Reid for remarksThe top official of the Democratic Party on Sunday defended Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, for his private remarks during the 2008 campaign describing then-Sen. Barack Obama as "light-skinned" and "with no Negro dialect." "I think if you look at the reports, as I have, it was all in the context of saying positive things about Senator Obama," Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine said. "It definitely was in the context of recognizing in Senator Obama a great candidate and future president." His counterpart, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael S. Steele, mocked the DNC chairman's defense as he called on Mr. Reid to resign. "If [senate Republican leader] Mitch McConnell had said those very words, then this chairman and this president would be calling for his head, and they would be labeling every Republican in the country a racist for saying exactly what this chairman's just said," Mr. Steele said. "There is this standard where Democrats feel that they can say these things and they can apologize when it comes from the mouths of their own, but when it comes from anyone else, it's racism," Mr. Steele said. Steele, for all his faults, is more right than wrong on this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Actually, regarding the "it was a compliment" defense: I can't remember: The guy who said "He's clean, he's articulate, . . . ": Which Party was he? And did the same Democrats rush to announce "it was a compliment" in that case? (Also, observing that, if the Party label were different, then both parties would be spouting the arguments that the other party is making, right now.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 good point, Larry. been wondering why no one has mentioned Biden's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Actually, regarding the "it was a compliment" defense: I can't remember: The guy who said "He's clean, he's articulate, . . . ": Which Party was he? And did the same Democrats rush to announce "it was a compliment" in that case? That was Joe Biden... Can't remember how they excused it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I can't remember: The guy who said "He's clean, he's articulate, . . . ": Which Party was he? Right! I forgot about that. Maybe Reid's positioning himself for a run at the presidency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 well as stated before: because when your running as a candidate its way worse and they ... ohhh wait.. he was running... okay back to the default position of: Dems can say whatever the hell they want. The leadership backs them until the next person gets in trouble and everyone shifts to that. Rangel is happy again, he's got another year in committee on his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjah Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 "We never heard any racially charged words under Harry Reid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 It's pretty clear who the South sides with. 150 years ago I (a liberal) would have been considered a "radical Republican." Because the only thing that matters to you when you step into the voting booth is race? I mean, you are insinuating the people who didn't vote Obama did so because of race. I suppose it's safe to assume that of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I can't believe 60-minutes didn't "ax" the question (sorry, couldn't resist) about Reid when interviewing the author. Queue Burgold: no media liberal bias... BTW, what is unique about this dialect from Southern? I'm pretty sure I've heard white people say "ax" in the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Reid's career is essentially done. I expect he'll be asked to step down as SML before the week is over, then the blood will be in the water. He will ride out his term, then quietly retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I can't believe 60-minutes didn't "ax" the question (sorry, couldn't resist) about Reid when interviewing the author. Queue Burgold: no media liberal bias...BTW, what is unique about this dialect from Southern? I'm pretty sure I've heard white people say "ax" in the South. Didn't see the interview. It might have been dependent on when the piece was done. Most of 60 Minutes interviews are canned. Some sit for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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