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1st i just want to say i'm not the one who picked the top 5 qb's just went off of what most websites and draft guys were saying so shoot me.Not in any order. I will be using Colt Mccoy, JImmy Clausen , Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford and Tony Pike for this post.

All mock draft projections are up to date on the sites posted as of Jan 7th.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=57219&draftyear=2010&genpos=QB

Name: Colt McCoy

College: Texas Number: 12

Height: 6-2 Weight: 212

Position: QB Pos2:

Class/Draft Year: rSr/2010

40 Time: 4.68 40 Low: 4.58 40 High: 4.84

Projected Round: 1-2 Stock:

Rated number 1 out of 136 QB's 12 / 2706 TOTAL

010 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

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Colt McCoy, QB, Texas

Colt McCoy's career in Austin, Texas has been an amazing one. Not only is it very impressive for a freshman quarterback to start at Texas, but McCoy threw for 29 touchdowns and just seven interceptions during his freshman campaign in 2006. He even completed over 68 percent of his passes. All of that success earned him a ton of accolades and it built the expectations really, really high. McCoy failed to live up to those expectations as a sophomore. Asked to throw more often, McCoy did garner 3,303 yards through the air, but he threw just 22 touchdowns and was intercepted 18 times. His completion percentage dropped to about 65 percent and he was even sacked 24 times, twice as much as he was the previous season. So nobody was quite sure which McCoy would be showing for the 2008 season. However, that question was answered very quickly and McCoy ended up throwing for 3,859 yards, 34 touchdowns and just eight interceptions.

However, there is a reason why McCoy does not get much love from NFL draft pundits. At 6-3 and 210 pounds he is not as big as most NFL teams would like and he does not have a rifle arm. His arm is very accurate and McCoy knows how to win games, but that will not be enough to turn him into one of the top NFL prospects.

He will not be a top prospect, but McCoy could still be a primetime selection (especially since he opted to return to school for his senior season). A team willing to take a chance on a player who can control the offense would likely take McCoy in the second or third round.

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/1/6/1237494/colt-mccoy-nfl-draft-scouting

Colt McCoy


6'2, 210 pounds | Quarterback | Texas

Accuracy: Shows good touch on passes to the flats. Throws most passes to zone routes- receivers are in an opening and not moving. Shows great touch on fade routes to his left. Maintains his accuracy while on the move. Does play in a system built to elevate his accuracy.

Arm strength: Good zip on crossing routes. Throws hard to openings at 10-15 yards. Pushes the ball deep when throwing right and left. Leads receivers deep over the middle, but can put the ball in their chest too. Deep ball strength is an issue. McCoy has improved here, particularly during his senior season. Doesn't always throw a tight spiral.

Decision making: Runs a no-huddle offense and makes many line calls. Throws very few interceptions. Will run before forcing the ball into a bad spot. Throws well under pressure.

Field vision: Has poor backside vision at times – especially when stepping up. Sees openings to run and will step up to throw. Is tall enough to see passing lanes and look downfield when behind his line. Rarely throws the ball into bad spots or puts his receivers in danger.

Mechanics: Adjusts the position of the ball depending on the route he is throwing (i.e. nose of the ball up, flat, down). Holds the ball high on his right shoulder. A good follow through with wrist snap. Varies his drop depending on the hot route – generally a two-step for quick routes and three-step for deeper routes. Very fast delivery. No hitches in his motion. Footwork is inconsistent. Tends to throw too often off his back foot. Needs to keep a better stance in the pocket.

Mobility: One of the more agile passing quarterbacks in college football. A good all-around athlete. Solid balance and lower body flexibility. Runs low to the ground and high on his toes. A respected runner by defenders. The UT offense is designed around his ability to pass and run. Can run inside and out.

Pocket awareness: Plays from the shotgun. Gets good depth on two and three-step drops. Consistent in his drops and footwork. Can throw running left and right. Does get sacked more than you’d like, but is playing in a zone system. Would like to see better awareness from his backside.

Size: Has adequate height for a quarterback. Doesn't get lost behind his line, but doesn't always see over them either. Needs to develop a much stronger frame. Looks to be properly listed at 210 pounds. Began his college career at 180 pounds, so adding more weight could be an issue.

Final word: As far all-time great college quarterbacks go, there are few better than Colt McCoy. He's won more games than any other quarterback ever and was practically the singular reason the Longhorns have been so good the last four years. However, as Jason White, Charlie Ward or Chris Weinke would attest, doing it in the NFL is whole other issue.

McCoy is the poster boy for the spread offense, for good and bad. His intangibles and football intelligence are off the charts. He's a humanitarian and known to have zero character flaws.

His physical skills and upside, however, are only average. McCoy's throwing motion may have to be tweaked and his arm strength limits him.

But McCoy will get a shot at making it in the pros. His self-confidence and attitude will assure him of that much

Here's a few other links on Colt McCoy:

Scouting reports:

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2010-nfl-draft/colt-mccoy.html

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=57219&draftyear=2010&genpos=QB

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/1/6/1237494/colt-mccoy-nfl-draft-scouting

Highlights:

MOck draft predictions:

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

Walterfootball.com : Not listed in first 3 rounds Jan 7th update

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/Mock-Drafts/2010-nfl-mock-draft.html

NFL draftdog: Not listed in first round.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

Draftcountdown.com: Not listed in first round.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/309708-jake-lockers-choice-to-return-to-school-will-help-colt-mccoy: 1st round Pick 8 Oakland Raiders

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http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2010-nfl-draft/jimmy-clausen.html

Jimmy Clausen

Quarterback

Junior

Notre Dame

6’ 3” 223 lbs.

Strengths: Arm Strength, Size, Accuracy, Offense, Pocket Passer, Complete QB

Weaknesses: Consistency, Not a winner?

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It will go down to the wire who will be the first QB chosen in the 2010, and could mean the #1 overall pick as well, in a race between Jimmy Clausen, Sam Bradford and Jake Locker. All three are different in their own way and it just might come down to preference. For much of the 2010 season, with Bradford sitting on the bench nursing a shoulder injury, Clausen has proved that he is the most NFL-ready QB in the nation right now.

Clausen may lack Bradford’s flair and Locker’s sick athletic ability, but he possesses a combination of toughness, arm strength, accuracy and maturity that the others just don’t have. Whether he is elite in any of those categories is another question, but he possesses all four of those very important qualities in levels the other two do not. Bradford is a tad more accurate with better touch and Locker throws a stronger ball, but Clausen grades out higher as a combination of all categories.

A highly decorated high school passer, Clausen has not had the success expected at the high profile school, winning only 16 games in his 3 years. Clausen has played some great games, particularly a 5 TD 401 yard performance against Hawaii in the Honolulu Bowl. The problem is that he hasn’t gotten Notre Dame anywhere close to success let alone a BCS bowl and is leaving for the NFL on the heels of a 4 game losing streak.

Clausen has been Notre Dame’s most prolific passer behind Brady Quinn, whose senior year is the benchmark for all ND passers. Clausen has come very close in 2009, throwing for 3,722 yards, 28 TD and only 4 INT. Clausen and receivers Golden Tate and Michael Floyd, both projected as high draft picks themselves, have literally carried this team for the last two years with little in terms of a complimentary ground game or much of a defence to talk about.

Clausen has done very well, flourished in fact, despite also being hampered by a very inconsistent offensive line. These are the main factors for the lack of success in South Bend, for many years now.

In 2007, Clausen tossed six passes in Notre Dame’s season opener against Georgia Tech, completing 4, and set a Fighting Irish record for quickest start to a career when he started the second game of the year Penn State as a freshman. He lost 31-10. In fact, he lost his first 4 games as a starter before beating UCLA 20-6 but threw for only 84 yards. After throwing for only 60 yards the following week in a loss to Boston College, Clausen was benched for two games before reclaiming his starting job for the final three games, showing promise with wins over Duke and Stanford and throwing 3 TD in a loss to Air Force. Clausen’s freshman year coincided with the worst rushing season in Notre Dame history with only 903 yards.

2008 saw great improvement from the sophomore. He threw 17 INT but also tossed 25 TD, 3,172 yards and 244 yards/game on the year. He led Notre Dame to a 6-6 season record and the big win over Hawaii in the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl. But he was also embarrassed by Boston College again, throwing 4 INT in the 17-0 loss and got creamed by hated rival USC 38-3. USC has beat Clausen twice in his career (he was benched for the USC game in 2007) and while that 3-point showing in 2008 is bad, he put up 260 yards and 2 TD in a 34-27 loss this year as USC hounded him all day.

Clausen led Notre Dame to 4 wins by 7 points or fewer in 2009, including a thrilling 33-30 victory over Michigan State and a 37-30 clash with Jake Locker and Washington in which Clausen threw for 422 yards and 2 TD compared to Locker’s 281 yards and 1 TD.

Unlike years past, Clausen never turned in a particularly bad performance. He had an off day against Purdue but still won the game and he really struggled against Pitt in a 27-22 loss, but he was never truly out of a game until the horn sounded. The largest loss was only 7 points and many times Clausen just needed a stop or two from his defence to pull out a win. He made some mistakes at times but he had his team in position to win games in the 4th quarter and the team didn’t get it done. You would like to have seen him work some magic and will the team to victory, but sometimes you just can’t do enough and that just about defines Clausen college career. A great QB who carried his team but couldn’t carry them far enough to win more than 6 games.

Physically Clausen is a prototype pocket passer with a very good arm, excellent accuracy and a toughness to withstand a beating behind a bad o-line. He throws with touch and tosses a catchable ball, hits receivers in stride and typically makes the right choices. Clausen is quite good at selling play fakes buying himself time to scan the field and make the play.

He stands tall in the pocket, keeping his eyes downfield and relishes working with downfield receivers like Tate and Floyd. He will be very comfortable stretching the field in the NFL and has played in a pro style offense during his college career. His mechanics are refined to the point of being able to step right into an NFL offense and he will have no problem digesting the playbook. He is widely regarded as the most NFL ready QB in college.

His lack of wins at Notre Dame and his inability to pull ND through in the clutch will cause some to worry about his ability to lead a pro team. I think that it’s pretty difficult, if not impossible, to win many football games at any level with little from the run and a defence that gives up 26 points a game and proves punchless in the clutch. He has had some games where he could have been much better, especially at the end of the close ones, but Clausen led the Irish to whatever success they had this year.

Clausen is a bit robotic. He’s the prototype and it seems like he came off an assembly line at times. He’s just a bit on the blah side, getting sucker punched outside a bar after the OT loss to Connecticut aside. He’s not an electrifying player like Locker, who excites with his feet and arm but can be equally concerning, and he lacks the dramatics of Bradford, he of the 50 TD as a sophomore. He’s just a complete quarterback and his lack of look-at-me cache may actually hurt him come draft time as Locker and Bradford start creating heat for themselves

Scouting Reports:

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2009/12/8/1190770/jimmy-clausen-nfl-draft-scouting

http://www.newerascouting.com/12/jimmy-clausen-scouting-report/

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1246081

Highlights:

Mock Draft Projections:

Walterfootball.com: 1st round pick 1 St Louis Rams

Nfldraftdog.com: 1st round pick 4 Washington Redskins.

Draftcountdown.com: 1st round pick Washington Redskins

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http://www.newerascouting.com/01/sam-bradford-scouting-report/

Sam Bradford:

6′4, 218 pounds | Quarterback | Oklahoma Accuracy: Can put the ball into tight windows, even though he doesn’t have the best zip on his passes. Bradford showed elite accuracy as a sophomore when he won the Heisman Trophy in 2008. Completed 67.6 percent of his passes during his career completing 604 of 893 attempts. His accuracy is best when he’s not under pressure and he can step into his throws.

Arm strength: Bradford’s arm strength is good enough. He can’t bomb passes like JaMarcus Russell, but it’s good enough to complete deep outs. Bradford’s arm is probably best suited for a West Coast scheme, but that’s not to say he should exclusively play in that scheme. Puts a really nice touch on the ball. Athleticism: The mobility Bradford has is adequate. He won’t blow you away on film, but he does have a little bit of elusiveness. Is smart enough to know when he should pull the ball down and run for a first down.

Decision making: Elite decision maker. Rarely threw the ball into bad coverage. Does a really nice job anticipating routes and throwing it in the receiver’s stride. Field vision: Bradford made his name by being able to read defenses and check down to his second and third target. Plays intelligently before the snap, reading the defense. Showed the ability to pump his shoulder to move the safety over. The question here is whether Bradford will be able to make his pre-snap adjustments while dropping back.

Mechanics: Delivery is slightly similar to that of Philip Rivers. It’s a little higher, but Bradford looks like he pushes the ball. It’s a three-quarters delivery that might get him in trouble at the next level. Played almost exclusively out of the shotgun and will have learn how to play from under center.

Pocket awareness: Does a nice job of feeling the blitz coming in on him. Tends to keep his feet planted and doesn’t dance around in the pocket. The issue here is that Bradford had a phenomenal offensive line as a sophomore and rarely saw pressure.

Size: Has optimum height and looks to have large enough hands. One of Bradford’s biggest negatives is his lack of bulk. It was an issue coming into his junior season and could be the reason he got his shoulder injured in the BYU game. Bradford needs to add at least 15 pounds of strength to his frame. This will make him more durable and maybe even strengthen his arm.

Final word: Bradford’s draft stock is going to ride on how well he tests during workouts. He was widely considered coming into the 2009 season the best draft-eligible player in the nation.

He received that recognition because of his football intelligence, accuracy and leadership ability. However, Bradford saw his junior season ruined by two shoulder injuries and his throwing strength will be in question until he proves otherwise. As a sophomore, Bradford was clearly the best player in college football. He threw for 4,720 yards and 50 touchdowns as a sophomore on his way to the Heisman Trophy. What helped Bradford was an elite supporting cast, especially along the offensive line.

As a junior he only threw 69 passes and was constantly pressured while he was in the game.

Bradford is as good as a top five pick. But his durability concerns might push him out of the top 10. He’s by far the biggest question mark heading into the 2010 NFL Draft.

Scouting Reports:

Highlights:

Mock Draft projections:

Walterfootball.com : Pick #4 Washington Redskins

NFLdraftdog.com: Pick #6 Seattle Seahawks

Draftcountdown.com: Pick #1 St Louis Rams

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Tim Tebow:

Position: School & Year/Status: - Senior Jersey Number: #15 Height & Weight: 6'3 - 245 lbs. Ranked #24 on our

2010 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

personTim Tebow, QB, Florida

Tebow is enjoying another outstanding season in 2009. Through eight games (all victories for the Florida Gators) the senior quarterback had 1323 passing yards, 551 rushing yards, and 18 total touchdowns (eight rush, 10 pass). He is not on pace to have as many rushing touchdowns as he had in 2007 (when he won the Heisman trophy) or as many passing touchdowns as he had in 2008, but Tebow is still terrorizing defenses despite suffering a concussion earlier in the year against Kentucky. Tebow continues to be an extremely smart quarterback, rarely making bad decisions. At 6'3 and 245 pounds, he is a load to bring down when he tucks it away and runs, displaying stellar speed for a big man in the 4.5 range. He is deceptively nimble and elusive as well. Off the field, Tebow is as solid as they come; a team leader, humanitarian, and just about everything else.

Questions remain about his ability to be a quarterback at the next level. Urban Meyer's Florida offense has put Tebow in ideal conditions to succeed, so it remains to be seen how he will respond in passing situations against NFL defenses. Tebow has no fear sitting in the pocket, but he needs to do a better job of feeling pressure. His delivery on passes also starts way too low and has to change before he can become an NFL quarterback. Defensive linemen will have a field day of knocking the ball out of his hand if he continues with this same throwing motion. Tebow will not be as good in the pros (after all, he is one of the best players in college football history), but he cannot be discounted either. In fact, it would not be surprising to see him off the board in the first round of the 2010 draft.

Pros: Good Athlete, Great Bulk, Smart Kid. Very Strong and has shown the ability to run over people at the college level. Deceptive speed for his size. Has shown great leadership ability Cons: Average arm at best. He doesn’t show the arm strength to make all the throws. Balls generally lack the snap required at the NFL level. Deeps balls tend be ducks. The offense at Florida doesn’t resemble an NFL offense; he hasn’t been under center much if at all. He is more of a power running quarterback, which doesn’t translate well into the NFL. Overall: Overall Tebow doesn’t project as a pro typical quarterback prospect that any NFL team would use a top draft pick on. If he translates his current game to the NFL he will spend more time on the injured list than on the field. While his speed is deceptive even quarterbacks with elite speed have struggled to be consistent as running quarterbacks in the NFL, remember Michael Vick. His leadership skills and overall athleticism warrants him to be drafted at some point but he will be a large project wherever he goes. Its possible he could switch positions or be brought in the game as a red zone QB in a “Wildcat” type formation which should increase his value. A lot depends on his willingness to be moved around, if he wants to be a straight quarterback that could hurt his stock. His Resume suggests 1st round but his tools represent a late round pick. He probably goes mid draft as early as 3rd but as late as 5th.

Scouting reports:

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** NOTE** was hard to find decent T.T. reports.

Highlights:

Mock Draft projections:

Walterfootball.com Pick #10 Jacksonville Jaguars

NFLdraftdog.com not selected in 1stround

Nfldraftcountdown.com 1st round Jacksonville Jaguars

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Tony PIke:

Tony Pike, QB, Cincinnati

It may seem like Tony Pike has come out of nowhere to turn into a viable NFL quarterback, but the 6-6 signal caller has been a very well known commodity in Cincinnati for a long, long time. After a successful prep career in the Queen City, Pike opted to stick around home and become a Bearcat. There he pretty much sat on the bench for three years, with his only game action coming as a reserve in five games in 2007. Pike eventually emerged as the starter in 2008 and threw for 2,407 yards, 19 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. Those were not great numbers, but he did start to show that he was a composed quarterback and his 6-6, 210 pound frame immediately made him a viable NFL quarterback.

Pike started out strong in 2009, completing 64.3 percent of his passes and connecting on 15 touchdowns and just three interceptions through six games. However, Pike missed a game in 2009 after undergoing surgery on his left forearm.. But he should be fine to lead Cincinnati if things keep going this well for Pike and the Bearcats, he will turn into one of the most valuable quarterbacks in this class

Strengths: Good height; can comfortably see over line

Very quick decision-maker

Great football intelligence

Nice touch on the football; clean spiral

Has an adequate sixth sense for pass rush

Takes what the defense gives him; doesn't force throws

Solid accuracy down the field

Absolutely outstanding timing; throws ball before receiver even gets into break

Good character

Weaknesses:

Lacks some bulk in his body frame

Extremely weak arm strength

Lacks agility and athleticism; can't evade a pass rush

Somewhat of a statue in the pocket

Floats deep ball a little too much

Not a very good passer on the run

Throws difficult routes - but with unimpressive velocity/talent

Highly limited skill set

Competitiveness hasn't been tested yet

Older than the average prospect (will be a 24-year-old rookie)

Summary: Pike projects strictly as a career backup in the NFL. He simply doesn't possess even an average arm to be a starter. Pike can be somewhat reliable since he makes great decisions and is highly intelligent, but he lacks a lot of talent, and you can't coach talent. I project Pike to come off the board between the third and fifth rounds.

Player Comparison: Todd Collins. Collins has a weak arm, but is an extremely smart quarterback and a reliable backup.

Scouting reports:

Highlights:

**Note** had a hard time finding Tony pike individual highlights most vids are of the team from the team website.

Mock Draft projections:

Walterfootball.com 2nd Rd pick 40 Seattle Seahawks

NFL draftbible.com 2nd round pick

cdsdraft.com 2nd round pick 32 MInnesota Vikings

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if this is well received, I wouldnt mind doing RB,OT,OG or any position that fellow skins fans feel we will be interested in the draft.

Plz post a response to this if you enjoyed it say so if you have any suggestions on how to do it better next time I am also interested in reading them.

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It could depend on if Shanny wants a guy who right away (Clausen) or if he is content to keep Campbell for at least another year and groom a guy like Bradford.

If Shanny is not REALLY sold on either guy though and does think he can get something out of Campbell then the best solution may be to go Oline in the first and take McCoy in the second.

I dont like McCoys footwork and think he needs a lot of work but if a coach can mold a system around him he could develop into a good NFL starter.

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I would rather sign campbell for 2 years and wait for a better crop of QB's next year...

This year's group does not impress me at all...

Couldnt agree more. If Campbell is as bad as everyone seems to think he is then we certainly wont have any problem having the #4 pick next year either.

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Take away the injuries this year and bradford would be a lock for 1st overall pick imho. If we take him then we are trusting that his surgery was successful it is as strong as ever. Simple as that. The skins are close with the doctor who worked on it so we should get some good info. I personally dont know much about shoulder injuries so I can't speak to it.

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Take away the injuries this year and bradford would be a lock for 1st overall pick imho. If we take him then we are trusting that his surgery was successful it is as strong as ever. Simple as that. The skins are close with the doctor who worked on it so we should get some good info. I personally dont know much about shoulder injuries so I can't speak to it.

Think Pennington... he was never the same QB after his shoulder injuries...

Of course we can't say for sure that will happen, but that is the QB shoulder injury that I remember off the top of my head.

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Think Pennington... he was never the same QB after his shoulder injuries...

Of course we can't say for sure that will happen, but that is the QB shoulder injury that I remember off the top of my head.

Bradford has had the same surgery Brees had. No guarantees but it does not seem to have done Brees any long term harm.

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Bradford has had the same surgery Brees had. No guarantees but it does not seem to have done Brees any long term harm.

Maybe it depends upon the extent of the injury or how the rehab goes...

Its a toss up I guess..

Point is, I am not sure if I want to invest in a guy who may or may not be damaged goods. He may look fine on the first day, and then some small hit 1 year later completely takes him out.

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Think Pennington... he was never the same QB after his shoulder injuries...

Of course we can't say for sure that will happen, but that is the QB shoulder injury that I remember off the top of my head.

I know Brees was mentioned, so I'll just leave it at that.

But Bradford is a young kid. He can sit a year out while learning and his shoulder can continue to further heal.

It also helps that Dr. Andrews is our doctor!

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I would rather sign campbell for 2 years and wait for a better crop of QB's next year...

This year's group does not impress me at all...

hmmmm...would campbell only sign for two years? (Just a question btw)

I would like to see us draft a QB if Shanny feels that is the direction this team needs to go...and his guy is within this draft...if not...I say we sign either Campbell for a short term contract...if he doesnt agree...snag a vet for a year or two and wait for that QB in next years draft

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Based on this report, I am leaning towards liking Bradford. Bradford has the intelligence necessary. All of the great QB's have that. I would prefer that we choose someone who is smart and will just keep learning. He seems to have the physical tools and they think that if he adds another 15 lbs of muscle, that it would improve his arm strength too. I like the comparison to Phillip Rivers also.

This thread deserves much better than a 1 star rating. It wouldn't let me change it before I posted.

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As suppose to NOT having a QB to build around which never brings a team anywhere?

I agree we need a QB to build around........but we will be in a worse situation than we are in now if we draft a QB that isnt going to be any good.....

Big Ben, Rivers, Eli, Peyton, Ryan.........hell even Sanchez.....those guys were pretty much "sure" things.........

Bradford......is a possible.....but not likely......in my opinon....we need to wait until the sure thing guys are there......or else its just pointless.

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