Lucas Smith Affidavit now filed with the US District Court - Obama Kenyan BC

[Larry]

From the OP, like I said, the only other conservative in the thread has agreed with you.

And I never said anything about the GOP courting anyone, nor distancing themselves from anyone. I simply spoke for myself, about this thread, and am not surprised at all at the tactics used here -- yet again.

I think anyone in their right mind can see what you quoted, and what you claimed I said, and see the utter and complete ridiculousness of it.

(Funny, given that you and Buford have ****ed the entire thread about the lack of an honest debate.) :doh:

I get the impression that I've offended you somehow. And, while I assume it wouldn't be the first time, I'm certainly not aware of what I've done in this particular thread.

I'm absolutely certain that I haven't attempted to offend you. Or to claim you said something.

(Your post seems to imply that you think I've tried to put words in your mouth, and I certainly don't recall attempting to do that. In fact, I usually try very, very, hard to avoid that, it being one of the things that really ticks me off when people try to do it to me.)

All I've been doing in this thread, is laughing at the stupid Birthers, which I thought was what you were doing, too.

If I've done anything else, then please accept my assurances that it wasn't intentional.

[Larry]

Pelosi wouldn't get to be Vice President. Biden would get to select his own Vice President. Pelosi only gets elevated if Obama and Biden are incapacitated simultaneously (or in succession before a new Vice President is sworn in).

(Imagining Hillary and Pelosi attempting to have eash other assassinated.)

(Yes, it's (mostly) a joke.)

[techboy]

Hillary Clinton arranging a triple "accident" seems more likely than the Court removing a sitting President on a vague and unestablished technicality, even if it were proven to be true.

The bonus is that the "Hillary as murderer" has already been established by the same nuts pushing this story.

[hkHog]

I don't care about the birth certificate but I don't understand WTF we can't see his college transcripts, law school transcripts, etc... No other presidential candidate in recent history has been given such a free pass to obfuscate his past and it is just absurd. The press is not and has not been doing its job with this guy, he just gets free pass after free pass.

[@DCGoldPants]

I was complaining? About what?

Personally, I think it would be rad if when Obama addresses congress. He stops....asked anybody who thinks he's not legally the President to raise their hands. Then asks those people to come up on national TV and explain exactly why they think so. Nobody raises their hand, and then if they even hint at it in 2010, they are giving the other guy something to use.

I would bet dollars to doughnuts that even a nut like Bachman wouldn't raise her hand and come up.

Its like these town hall things. If I was holding one and saw some Nazi stuff in the crowd related to the admin. I would ask that person to come up and explain the connection they are attempting to make. Besides getting the connection from Glen Beck. They wouldn't be able to explain exactly what Hitler and the Nazi's did in Germany, or how it remotely connects to a public OPTION for healthcare.

[fullnelson9999]

I don't care about the birth certificate but I don't understand WTF we can't see his college transcripts, law school transcripts, etc... No other presidential candidate in recent history has been given such a free pass to obfuscate his past and it is just absurd. The press is not and has not been doing its job with this guy, he just gets free pass after free pass.

Remind me...why do we need to see his transcripts?

[ThinSkin]

Remind me...why do we need to see his transcripts?

Obama Should Release His Transcripts

September 05, 2009

George Joyce

In a nationally televised educational address next Tuesday Barack Obama is scheduled to, according to the Department of Education, “challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning.”

Concerns by many Americans that Mr. Obama’s televised address to schoolchildren will simply represent a forum for socialist indoctrination are wildly “overwrought” according to a Wall Street Journal editorial today:

“America's children are not so vulnerable that we need to slap an NC-17 rating on Presidential speeches. Given how many minority children struggle in school, a pep talk from the first African-American President could even do some good.”

While the WSJ editors criticized some of the Education Department’s post speech lesson plans they also condemned those “columnists who spy a conspiracy theory behind every Democrat” for “spreading alarm.”

Could a pep talk from the first African-American President “do some good” for minority students as the WSJ editors argue? Back in September of last year Steve Gilbert of Sweetness and Light pondered over our first African-American president’s prior academic performance:

“By his own admission, Obama spent his final two years in high school skipping classes, playing basketball, doing cocaine and getting drunk.”

After high school, Gilbert notes the following about Obama:

“Similarly, his admission to Harvard Law School is highly questionable. Where are his LSAT scores? And how does one graduate from Columbia without honors and yet get accepted at Harvard Law? Lastly, his ascendency to the Presidency of the Harvard Law school would appear to have also been a case of blatant affirmative action, since the student Obama had only written one legal paper — and that was quite short and remarkably undistinguished. So where are his grade transcripts?”

If Confucius were to describe a democracy, he’d probably say that the people are the “parents” and the rulers are the “children.” Children are normally required by their parents to be open and transparent about their grades at school. Barack Obama has sealed off his transcripts from the people.

Is it possible for the first African-American president to inspire minority schoolchildren about education when he continues to hide the record of his academic performance?

Many of us had to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for our learning because our gender and skin color actively worked against us on college admissions panels. There were others however who could get drunk, do cocaine, skip class and still make it to the Ivy League.

Lao Tzu once said that “you gain by losing, lose by gaining.” Now I think I know what he means.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/obama_should_release_his_trans.html

[ACW]

There were others however who could get drunk, do cocaine, skip class and still make it to the Ivy League.

Someone tell this moron Bush's not President anymore.

[ThinSkin]

Someone tell this moron Bush's not President anymore.

You're dancing around the issue....moron.

[fullnelson9999]

You're dancing around the issue....moron.

How is he dancing around the issue?

Yes Bush was repetedly mocked for basically not being able to string a sentence together, but in reality I dont think anyone cared to this extent. I think we've already shown as a counrty that we really dont care how you did in college, or else Bush wouldnt have served 8 years. I dont understand the double standard. Why was it ok for Bush to be kinda dumb, but its not OK for Obama?

BTW, posting some editorial isnt a very good response to my question.

[ACW]

You're dancing around the issue....moron.

What's with the namecalling?

And let's see: Bush got drunk, MAY have done cocaine, and got into the Ivy Leagues.

And I didn't ask to see his transcripts either.

[Destino]

What annoys me the most about all this is the irresponsible behavior of the "alternative media". Right wingers are sold on this crap being better than the mainstream media. This issue highlights an important difference: accountability. When there were questions about Bush's service record Dan Rather went out on a limb with bad evidence and lost his job. Who is ever held accountable amongst the so called alternative media? They feed this lunatic and others in the birther movement and no matter what anyone says or does they just keep moving.

No accountability at all.

The media shift from traditional respectable sources of journalism to these pieces of **** that manufacture news stories is a disaster. I don't care what your political position is but I like a world where journalists are held accountable for their efforts. I believe them to be vital to any democracy. What I see being done to deliver more agreeable right wing news is a destruction credibility and the destruction of accuracy. Truth has been replaced with balance. Truth is now defined with "what I agree with" or at least equal time for what I agree with even if the facts don't support it at all.

[Destino]

And I didn't ask to see his transcripts either.

He also sealed his records as governor of Texas.

[ThinSkin]

What's with the namecalling?

And let's see: Bush got drunk, MAY have done cocaine, and got into the Ivy Leagues.

And I didn't ask to see his transcripts either.

If you were calling the author of the article a moron, then my bad. Sorry.

As far as Bush, he never went to as great of lengths as this President to hide his past. I thought Obama was supposed to be the most transparent leader in the history of the world.

[Tarpon75]

How is he dancing around the issue?

Yes Bush was repetedly mocked for basically not being able to string a sentence together, but in reality I dont think anyone cared to this extent. I think we've already shown as a counrty that we really dont care how you did in college, or else Bush wouldnt have served 8 years. I dont understand the double standard. Why was it ok for Bush to be kinda dumb, but its not OK for Obama?

BTW, posting some editorial isnt a very good response to my question.

I would say that what Bush did in college mattered mightily to the media as it was aired vigorously.I don't think it is too much to ask about Obama's college days.With Bush most of the info was available with Obama there seems to be a shroud of protection over his past.

[Teller]

This issue highlights an important difference: accountability. When there were questions about Bush's service record Dan Rather went out on a limb with bad evidence and lost his job. Who is ever held accountable amongst the so called alternative media?

...

The media shift from traditional respectable sources of journalism to these pieces of **** that manufacture news stories is a disaster. I don't care what your political position is but I like a world where journalists are held accountable for their efforts. I believe them to be vital to any democracy.

Partisan commentary aside (which you're entitled to, but I edited out ) I completely agree.

[Larry]

I would say that what Bush did in college mattered mightily to the media as it was aired vigorously.I dn't think it is too much to ask about Obama's college days.To me the point is, with Bush all the info was available with Obama there seems to be a shroud of protection over his past.

1) If you think that "with Bush all the info was available" then you're living in an alternate reality.

2) That said, however, Bush didn't make "I'll be the most open and transparent President in history" a major part of his campaign, either.

"Bush did it too" isn't a really good excuse for somebody whose main claim was that he was better than Bush.

[@DCGoldPants]

I know this isn't about Bush, and am ready to move on.

But what Rather did was actually help Bush out on the whole AWOL thing. The military still never able to really explain where he was at the time, or find somebody who could vouch for him being there. Not saying he wasn't. Just saying that if they didn't keep good enough records of their people, then I dunno.

I don't know why people are so pumped on college transcripts for a person who might be 20-30 years removes from school. I think again, its not what's in there that anybody is hiding. Like the BC issue. I think its a political win for Obama to have people harping on this. If you can get somebody at a high enough level to jump on that train. Then you've already won. Moderates and Indy's want people who oppose the admin to present their own solutions. The hardcore anti-obama or anti-bush people aren't even going to vote for these guys. So, why would you do anything to appease them ever? Ignore them and hope that an elected official from the other side is dumb enough to go along with these people. It'll only help your cause.

[Jumbo]

You're dancing around the issue....moron.

And with that, while noting you rarely come to post so I appreciate this news was a "special" clarion call you were compelled to heed (which is indeed "special" in its implications), I will channel Jack:

"Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here."

( P.S. You just saved yourself form a week off by apologizing )

[Teller]

And with that, while noting you rarely come to post so I appreciate this news was a "special" clarion call you were compelled to heed (which is indeed "special" in its implications), I will channel Jack:

"Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here."

( P.S. You just saved yourself form a week off by apologizing )

Wow.

I really haven't been around in a while.

The Tinman seems to have found a heart.

[Tarpon75]

1) If you think that "with Bush all the info was available" then you're living in an alternate reality.

2) That said, however, Bush didn't make "I'll be the most open and transparent President in history" a major part of his campaign, either.

"Bush did it too" isn't a really good excuse for somebody whose main claim was that he was better than Bush.

Was the subject of Bush's college tenure not aired in the media frequently?So either what the media was putting out about Bush was untrue or they had access to info.With the current president there is very little really known about his college days as far as transcripts,either that or the media chooses not to breach the subject.Bush did not run his entire campaign on the farce "A Change We Can Believe In".Bush was far from a great president but Obama ran on a platform of transparency while claiming he had the answers.As soon as he was elected he said,things are worse then we thought,it is going to take a while to fix this and so forth.The promised transparency is not taking place.

[Hubbs]

I don't see the guy going to jail.

I don't see anybody being able to prove that the crooked people he admits bribing in Kenya didn't "mislead" him, by showing him what he wanted to see.

He'll use the "I didn't know it was a fake" defense.

I dunno, the judge might not let him off for failing to do even a quick Google search before making a claim like this in court.

The "certificate" says that Obama was born in "Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya" in 1961.

Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until 1963.

[robotfire]

So the State of Hawaii is no longer part of the United States of America. I guess if the Republicans want to get rid of Hawaii, we get one too. I nominate Texas.

Extremists are lame, unless they're DC sports fans. Republicans believe Obama is a citizen, and Democrats believe Bush didn't personally fly those planes on 9-11. Republicans are not behind this. Conspiracy theorists are behind this.

[ACW]

I dunno, the judge might not let him off for failing to do even a quick Google search before making a claim like this in court.

The "certificate" says that Obama was born in "Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya" in 1961.

Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until 1963.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

:owned:

[TimmySmith]

I dunno, the judge might not let him off for failing to do even a quick Google search before making a claim like this in court.

The "certificate" says that Obama was born in "Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya" in 1961.

Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until 1963.

Google: East Africa Protectorate