kmast000 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I was thinking that maybe the Redskins should bring Martz back. It could either be the Offensive coordinator or even as a consultant to the passing game. We all know that he is a pass happy coach and does wonders with a passing game. If they could find an even mix with the good running game we have and his passing system I think our offense could flourish. If anything he could push Zorn out of his conservative box a little. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 If they could find an even mix with the good running game we have and his passing system Has that ever happened with Martz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 If they could find an even mix with the good running game we have and his passing system I think our offense could flourish. Any thoughts? The knock on Martz is the fact that he's not balanced. He flourished at a time when his teams were supremely talented at the QB and WR positions. Everywhere else without those horses, he's looked like a horse's --- with his offense. Also he gets QB's killed. When Vermeil left his full thumbprint was on the Rams, and he got Warner/Bulger crushed with his wide-open passing game. If it weren't for the Spurrier experiment, they would have had the most crushed QB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryYourDuke Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Our personnel would certainly be an interesting test for Martz' philosophies and system lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I was thinking that maybe the Redskins should bring Martz back. It could either be the Offensive coordinator or even as a consultant to the passing game. We all know that he is a pass happy coach and does wonders with a passing game. If they could find an even mix with the good running game we have and his passing system I think our offense could flourish. If anything he could push Zorn out of his conservative box a little. Any thoughts? Martz is from a different system. And Martz probably knows more about the passing game then Zorn. Zorn is gonna be hard pressed to find someone that knows the WCO passing game and is willing to let Zorn still call the plays. Hence Sherman Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Please clarify if you mean right now or in the future. With the coaching staff set right now, I'm not sure this would be a good idea three weeks before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmast000 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 Has that ever happened with Martz? He did run some with Faulk. To be honest Id like to see something similar to the greatest show on turf to go along with our defense. It would be entertaining to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 No, no, no, no, no!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I hate when people end thread titles with "Anyone?" No thank you!!! Mike Martz lived off of the talent, not his system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmast000 Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 Please clarify if you mean right now or in the future.With the coaching staff set right now, I'm not sure this would be a good idea three weeks before the season starts. Yes I know it's a little late to be brining him in. Thats why I suggested he could possibly come in as a consultant to the passing game. Id really like to see what he could do with Kelly and Thomas on the outside and Moss in the slot. Maybe even switch out Thomas for Mitchel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Yes I know it's a little late to be brining him in. Thats why I suggested he could possibly come in as a consultant to the passing game. Id really like to see what he could do with Kelly and Thomas on the outside and Moss in the slot. Maybe even switch out Thomas for Mitchel. The problem is that we don't know how the offensive line is going to perform yet. That's a huge wild card. I think we're going to be limited in some of the stuff we can do offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 bring martz? is this another "bash JC" thread? (or for that matter, bash the 2nd and 3rd stringers too)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 The Redskins will more than likely never have 5 linemen blocking on a passing down. I'm willing to bet they will either have a RB or TE or both stay in to help. And that's against 4 d line men As for Martz. Hell to the No. That would be another Dan Snyder move. Gibbs struggles a bit with the offense because we had Scott Brunell so they bring in Saunders. No no no. No. Hell No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 bring martz? is this another "bash JC" thread? (or for that matter, bash the 2nd and 3rd stringers too)... I don't know where you picked up that idea. I certainly didn't get the sense that's what the OP was going for.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boofMcboof Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 If Saunders didn't work out what makes you think Martz would. Same coaching tree but at least Saunders has running plays in his 1000 page playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 this is like the 4th Mike Martz thread and I give the same response no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffSchmeff Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Martz comes from the Coryell coaching tree, which is different than the West Coast offense we run with Zorn. Let's bring in a whole new system - maybe that'll work! :doh: Give it time people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Martz is just plum crazy....The answer is no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboomking Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 If we stay WCO and change coaches, then I vote Shannahan for coach, keep the scouting dept and Vinnie intact. I like our moves the last 2 years, and if we were going to drop Vinnie, it should have been for Pioli. If we move away from WCO, my favorite offensive coordinater is Norval. Think he could patch things up with Snyder after that late night, mid-season firing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modazfuk Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Martz is a very smart guy and would surely bring excitement back to DC, but he and Snyder probably would not get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 . Think he could patch things up with Snyder after that late night, mid-season firing ? Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Man, these kind of threads... Martz has been a disaster since his heyday in St. Louis. No one wants anything to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 J.T O' Sullivan was sacked 32 times last season; he started only 8 games and was active in 9. Shaun Hill was sacked at a lower clip of 23 times, but that's still high. If you want extra well-sacked QBs, he's your guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I don't know where you picked up that idea. I certainly didn't get the sense that's what the OP was going for.. I was referring to martz's concept of zero protection for the QB and the history his QBs have of being drilled over and over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboomking Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Not a chance. I know, but I can dream right. Norval is a wonderful example of a great coordinater who can't hack it as a coach. He may be in the same boat as Wade Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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