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skinsfan07

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I have been playing drums for two decades, and I think Brann Dailor is the one of the best drummers around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcErNWtw1o&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2FBaculus&feature=player_embedded

so you started when you were 19 too? That's when I started. Literally like a month ago. haha I love playing them though.

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I agree with you Zoed, God forbid anyone not worship what the musical elite tell us we should like.

I can appreciate the talent, but I can also think that it sounds like ****. That's my right to an opinion.

Guess I'm ignorant for having that opinion. :) Doesn't surprise me that I'd be called that though. In my experience music snobs fit the classic mold of people who fail at life and need some sort of outlet to claim superiority over others... to make them feel better, more 'superior', so they can chuckle at others who would rather listen to popular music than 8 jazz musicians standing around in a circle making fart noises at random intervals with their instruments, while some douchebag in blue glasses and a turtleneck watches them and tells everyone that if they don't like it they're ignorant.

I'm sure that doesn't apply to anyone in this thread, of course. Just general commentary. :)

Perhaps people like to listen to music for different reasons than you. Perhaps they like sounds that you don't like. It's completely okay, and I hope you can understand this without being offended.

In a way, as much as you're putting down "music snobs", you sound just as over-the-top as they do. Call it being a pop music snob.

You sound just as aggressively dismissive as they can be. The bottom line is that everyone has a different interpretation of what is "great" in art. This isn't a sport, with scores and stats, it's open to interpretation. Most of us have a sense of greatness, which can narrow down what we consider to be the very best. But it's still inexact.

People like fusion and people like jazz because they think it sounds great. Better than DMB, can you believe that? Their ear isn't "better", so to speak. It's simply learned to appreciate something different.

Personally, I try to look at music for what it's trying to accomplish. And honestly, I'm not a fan of jazz, either. It's for the same reason as you, simply don't like the way it sounds the majority of the time. Wake me up when it's over, ya know?

But I'm not going to ignore the best the genre has to offer just because of my distaste for it. There is definitely a huge level of talent and feeling that goes in to that music. Many people like it just as much as you like your favorite bands.

Genres that hover around fusion, from those that are Latin to those that are metal, they may sound disjointed to someone who isn't a musician, what is wrong with that? Nothing. No reason to hate, really. Nobody is saying they're better than you, perhaps some people may pretend to like things in order to look cool, but that's in all facets of life.

Some people like music for the dynamics, the intricacies. "What's he gonna do next?!" "What can they think of this time!?" And then some people like Soulja Boy. Why? I think it sounds horrible. But when I see people with a huge smile on their face jumping around to that song I can understand. As bad as it is, I can understand. :)

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Just out of curiosity, what fusion bands have folks listened to, and what parts of the style did they not like?

And, as far as drummers are concerned, there is nothing tastier then some fusion licks; drummers who play that style are some of the most skilled musicians around.

I have absolutely no idea.

Musician friends in Nashville used to play it all the time and try to get me into it. Didn't care for it at all.

Actually, one of these guys is one of the top drummers in Nashville, I'm sure if you all are as into drumming as you say you are you know who he is. But in the interest of not name-dropping I'll keep it off the board :)

(we're not good friends or anything, actually I havent' even spoken to him in 9 years or so)

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I was around 15 when I started, but twenty was close enough. ;-)

It's definitely fun stuff! Just keep at it.

I wish I started earlier. I'm not gonna lie, it's not the easiest, but getting the simple stuff down (basic beats, 1.2.3.4 technique, etc, etc) so far has been a breeze. I'm def not gonna give this up though. It's too much fun. haha

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I have absolutely no idea.

Musician friends in Nashville used to play it all the time and try to get me into it. Didn't care for it at all.

Actually, one of these guys is one of the top drummers in Nashville, I'm sure if you all are as into drumming as you say you are you know who he is. But in the interest of not name-dropping I'll keep it off the board :)

(we're not good friends or anything, actually I havent' even spoken to him in 9 years or so)

Is he a studio musician? There are a few guys in Nashville that do tons of tracks.

As far as fusion is concerned, there different styles and not all are the same. I guess without knowing what you generally like, I couldn't make any recommendations. (Fusion is, after all, just jazz which has incorporated other forms of music.)

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I wish I started earlier. I'm not gonna lie, it's not the easiest, but getting the simple stuff down (basic beats, 1.2.3.4 technique, etc, etc) so far has been a breeze. I'm def not gonna give this up though. It's too much fun. haha

Better late than never!

I would recommend to get a metronome, a book or two (such as Stick Control) and to spend a little bit every day working on basic technique. It's not super exciting stuff, but it helps your ability over time, with practice.

Here's a page with a few exercises you may find useful:

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/technique/wessels.html

They even have some videos from Peter Erskine!

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/drumset/erskine.html

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Better late than never!

I would recommend to get a metronome, a book or two (such as Stick Control) and to spend a little bit every day working on basic technique. It's not super exciting stuff, but it helps your ability over time, with practice.

Here's a page with a few exercises you may find useful:

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/technique/wessels.html

They even have some videos from Peter Erskine!

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/drumset/erskine.html

Thanks man! I def need a metronome, that would seriously help me out. And the stick control is something I need to work on also. Trying to get my left hand control down is something that'll take some time since I'm right handed but practice makes perfect right?

I can't wait to watch those vids and practice those techniques.

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I'm of the opinion that Dennis is the most talented drummer of all time. Phenomenal speed, incredible power, an awesome presence in the pocket. The dude can play polyrhythms like riding a bike. He has it all.

I think he could sound like (or sound close to) a specialist in almost any genre of music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehmTBsmZhmY&feature=related

Dennis taught this kid. Tony Royster Jr.

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Thanks man! I def need a metronome, that would seriously help me out. And the stick control is something I need to work on also. Trying to get my left hand control down is something that'll take some time since I'm right handed but practice makes perfect right?

I can't wait to watch those vids and practice those techniques.

Good to hear that!

I thought you may find this section to be useful -- it's basically a snare 101 section.

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/percussion101.html#snare

Practice extra work on your left hand. That is where a practice pad comes into play, because you can work on stuff (such as a lot of left-hand strokes) while you watch TV. Every bit helps, and, as you said, practice makes perfect.

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I'm of the opinion that Dennis is the most talented drummer of all time. Phenomenal speed, incredible power, an awesome presence in the pocket. The dude can play polyrhythms like riding a bike.

Your not alone in that opinion. ;) His technique is really fine -- he was giving lessons years ago in Baltimore and I always regret not taking some.

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Good to hear that!

I thought you may find this section to be useful -- it's basically a snare 101 section.

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/percussion101.html#snare

Practice extra work on your left hand. That is where a practice pad comes into play, because you can work on stuff (such as a lot of left-hand strokes) while you watch TV. Every bit helps, and, as you said, practice makes perfect.

Thanks a bunch. I never would have found those. lol I've got to sleep with my sticks haha.

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