Sticksboi05 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What is wrong with this country lately? This is terrible... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/10/AR2009031003025.html?hpid=artslot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Why the **** did I not see any of this on CNN yet? But as for what is wrong with this country.. It's only going to get worse, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What is wrong with this country lately? I think its in direct correlation with the decline in religion People are ****ed up these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 I think its in direct correlation with the decline in religion People are ****ed up these days If anything, religion = more violence. That's just how it has gone throughout history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 When Alabama's not safe - you're not safe anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 If anything, religion = more violence. That's just how it has gone throughout history. Really ? Is that what they're teaching you in High School History class, these days ? :doh: I must have missed the CNN report on how this guy went on a serial rampage because of religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 11 dead now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Really ? Is that what they're teaching you in High School History class, these days ? :doh: That's just common sense, Mick. Not saying it belongs in this thread.. but it's not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 That's just common sense, Mick.Not saying it belongs in this thread.. but it's not rocket science. No, it aint common sense, either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 No, it aint common sense, either Alright. That's your opinion. I'm not getting into a debate tonight. But religion is violent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 Really ? Is that what they're teaching you in High School History class, these days ? :doh:I must have missed the CNN report on how this guy went on a serial rampage because of religion And were you taught to put words in people's mouths? Where did I say this particular shooting had anything to do with religion? I said religion has caused violence throughout history... I have plenty of history to back my statement up...Hundred Year's War, Holocaust, Irish Protestants vs. Catholics, The Crusades, the current Middle East crisis etc...I'm not saying the fundamentals of the religions are violent, heck I go to church every Sunday but I'm not nieve enough to think religion doesn't cause violence. I mean for God's sake if not for violence and forcing, Christianity wouldn't be in half the places in the world that it is but the Europeans forced people to believe it. It's just another variable for people to fight over, and yes it is common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I'd say it's more of a correlation between violence and income. Right now we are in a recession, there will be more violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondizzle Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 These freak, random things (like the church shooting/stabbing last weekend in IL) make me afraid to leave home. :paranoid: Stupid crazies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 When Alabama's not safe - you're not safe anywhere. Any getting close to you being it was on the Al/Florida line. The gunman fired several more rounds at a Walmart. There could have been more people dead. Without knowing the shooter or all the facts, I think to just blame the decline in Christianity is too simplistic and to much of a cover all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Without knowing the shooter or all the facts, I think to just blame the decline in Christianity is too simplistic and to much of a cover all. I was kidding around...its from that news report that came out a couple days ago about the decline in religion in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Religion of peace.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 At what point does this kind of thing just become the norm? Because as far as I can tell this isn't a RECENT (last two years) phenomenon. It's been going on for awhile now and well before the recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 At what point does this kind of thing just become the norm? Because as far as I can tell this isn't a RECENT (last two years) phenomenon. It's been going on for awhile now and well before the recession. Mass shootings? I think it all started in 1999 really. With Columbine. I could be wrong. I'm sure it happened before that. But that seems to be when it really started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Two children who were shot have been air-lifted to Birmingham Children's Hospital in critical condition. Sending prayers for their recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Mass shootings?I think it all started in 1999 really. With Columbine. I could be wrong. I'm sure it happened before that. But that seems to be when it really started. If by that's when it became publicized, then yeah you're probably right. There have always been ****ing insane people doing horrible stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 If by that's when it became publicized, then yeah you're probably right. There have always been ****ing insane people doing horrible stuff. I've been reading the reports on the Dothan, Al news site. What's even scarier is some of the people who do this horrible stuff seem perfectly sane to the people around them. I know there were signs with the shooter at VT. But this shooter was described as quiet, but agreeable and one neighbor had thought him to be a cool guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Mass shootings?I think it all started in 1999 really. With Columbine. I could be wrong. I'm sure it happened before that. But that seems to be when it really started. I thought the same my friend but I guess we're wrong: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/17/usa.internationaleducationnews A bunch throughout the 80's and 90's. I think maybe it just seems recent because of the heavy news saturation(sp?) we get these days. It's all messed up. And it's so horrible and terrifying because how do you combat random acts of violence by people with chemical imbalances and mental issues? I've been sitting here for the last 30 minutes typing this post on my phone and thinking about this issue. It is so deep and complicated. I have no answers. Maybe there aren't any and it just is what is, is what it will be and maybe is what it always has been (just in a different form, i.e mass shootings.) I don't know. ****ing people. RIP for those killed and my thoughts are with their loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I thought the same my friend but I guess we're wrong: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/17/usa.internationaleducationnews A bunch throughout the 80's and 90's. I think maybe it just seems recent because of the heavy news saturation(sp?) we get these days. It's all messed up. And it's so horrible and terrifying because how do you combat random acts of violence by people with chemical imbalances and mental issues? I've been sitting here for the last 30 minutes typing this post on my phone and thinking about this issue. It is so deep and complicated. I have no answers. Maybe there aren't any and it just is what is, is what it will be and maybe is what it always has been (just in a different form, i.e mass shootings.) I don't know. ****ing people. RIP for those killed and my thoughts are with their loved ones. Colubmine is the first one I remember because I think it was the first one that really got the media's attention. Now why was that? No way it could have been the fact it occurred in an upscale neighborhood in Colorado. People deny that there is a correlation between class and what the media covers. They are simply WRONG. Suddenly, when it happens in suburbia, or places of higher value, it's a national tragedy. But, if ten people were killed in an inner city school tomorrow, it's just more gang violence and it's not that big of a deal. **** that. Seriously. Why does our society place more value on certain lives than others? I'm not saying what happened at Columbine and VT wasn't wrong. But it would be equally as wrong if it happened somewhere else. It's like the financial issue. It wasn't a big deal until it started happening to people with money. News flash, America: GOOD people who worked their asses off got screwed way before you started to publish the headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 If by that's when it became publicized, then yeah you're probably right. There have always been ****ing insane people doing horrible stuff. Yeah that's what I was just thinking about. It's not really about guns or shootings. It's about crazy people. And indeed it's been going on since the beginning. I wonder how much culture plays a part. On one hand I've seen news reports and videos of similar incidents from Brazil to China to Austrailia. On the other it's not nearly as prevalent elsewhere as it is here. One thing I've been thinking about is the lack of outlets for crazy people here. In a places like Brazil and the Middle East, for example, with things like the drug trade, religious fanaticism, war, etc crazy people can be crazy in a "normal" way. Here there isn't that. That would also explain why there weren't mass murders LIKE THIS throughout history. People lived in a chaotic world with tons of ways and places to be "normally" crazy. Also in some other countries I think once the govt finds out about a crazy person they put him out of action pretty quickly. But then why isn't there more of this in similar countries like England, France, Canada etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 But then why isn't there more of this in similar countries like England, France, Canada etc? The parents are home because they dont work as many hours as American families? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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