TE#80 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 could be a young Janikowski, a 64 yard field goal earns him at least consideration with a late round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 We don't have enough picks this year to go with a kicker or punter in the late rounds. There are more pressing needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#21Taylor4Ever Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Just sign Bironas or Carney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Just sign Bironas or Graham Fixed it for you. I'd rather have Graham over Carney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Kinda like a 70 yard punt with Durant Brooks right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Kinda like a 70 yard punt with Derrick Brooks right? The LB from Tampa can punt 70 yards? Holy cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyro281 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 could be a young Janikowski Score, we have a first round pick! Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 The LB from Tampa can punt 70 yards? Holy cow. LoL... :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Sign Bironas. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 We don't have enough picks this year to go with a kicker or punter in the late rounds. There are more pressing needs. At the same time, what to you figure the hit rate on late rounders is? We've got a 7th that could go to say a O-lineman with a 10% chance of becoming an eventual starter, or a top kicker in the draft with a 50% chance of becoming a starter. Just an example, but need based drafting in the later rounds is kinda silly imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portis426 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 At the same time, what to you figure the hit rate on late rounders is? We've got a 7th that could go to say a O-lineman with a 10% chance of becoming an eventual starter, or a top kicker in the draft with a 50% chance of becoming a starter. Just an example, but need based drafting in the later rounds is kinda silly imo... true, but we got brooks in the fifth and horton in the 7th. you tell me who did better last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyro281 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 At the same time, what to you figure the hit rate on late rounders is? We've got a 7th that could go to say a O-lineman with a 10% chance of becoming an eventual starter, or a top kicker in the draft with a 50% chance of becoming a starter. No 7th this year, gone to the Vikings for Erasmus James. We've got 1,3,5,6 ( I believe, 2 to Dolphing for JT, 4 to Jets for Kendell, 7 to Vikes). Now I wouldn't be adverse to getting a K in the 6th, but after the Durrant (not Derrick :doh:) Brooks situation last year, I'm sure the FO might be a bit gunshy about such a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Only idiots say we dont have enough picks to waste on a kicker or punter. A good kicker can change your season from 7-9 to 10-6 easily on his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Only idiots say we dont have enough picks to waste on a kicker or punter. A good kicker can change your season from 7-9 to 10-6 easily on his own Bingo. I'd take this kid over an OL prospect if he was worth it. Just saying, 'Don't take a K, take a lineman,' hardly makes sense. What if the kicker is the best Kicker in the draft- but the best available lineman was projected as an UDFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavarisgone Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'm a UTEP fan so I've seen this kid kick the last 2 years,he is real good, but I agree with most, don't draft a kicker, if he's still around as a FA, then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 We don't need to use a draft pick on a PK. There will be decent ones available as UDFAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsMaster88 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Count me among those who'd rather go for a proven vet. This guy was 20-27 in FGs this year. That's 74%. That would be good enough for 31st in the NFL this past year (though, Suisham was 32nd with 72%). So, he had a booming kick in one game. I don't see this guy as being worth a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilsu Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 At the same time, what to you figure the hit rate on late rounders is? We've got a 7th that could go to say a O-lineman with a 10% chance of becoming an eventual starter, or a top kicker in the draft with a 50% chance of becoming a starter. Just an example, but need based drafting in the later rounds is kinda silly imo... You have to look at expected return. What total extra value could the O-lineman give as an eventual starter and backup, even if it is only a 10% chance? What total extra value could a replacement kicker provide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 He's not the only good kicker coming out this year. Really Sam Swank or McAfee would be nice. Swank's stock is down because of a thigh injury but that kid was 18-21 as a junior and not counting this year when he was injured, he was 9-12 past 50 yards out. 75% accuracy past 50 yards is just awesome. He might not have AS much of a leg as Martinez but he's more accurate and he has a good enough leg to kick from 53 yards out (and I really hope we don't attempt 64 yard fg's ever, save that for the raiders). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavarisgone Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Count me among those who'd rather go for a proven vet. This guy was 20-27 in FGs this year. That's 74%. That would be good enough for 31st in the NFL this past year (though, Suisham was 32nd with 72%). So, he had a booming kick in one game. I don't see this guy as being worth a draft pick. The 20 for 27 is misleading he was 5 for 5 from 20-29yds. 8 for 8 from 30-39 yds, 6 for 7 from 40-49 yds, and 1 for 7 from 50 + yds, though he attempted 4 kicks from 60 , just because Mike Price wanted to give him a shot at the NCAA record. He was also 17 for 20 as a junior, and has deep kick off's, so he will get a shot in the NFL, having said that we can't afford to draft a kicker. Hope he slips out of the draft and can be had as a FA, doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 The LB from Tampa can punt 70 yards? Holy cow. His name has such a bad association I've blacked it out. In any case, no kickers with one of our 4 draft picks please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkekoa Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I for one think K is a huge need for this team; however, I'm not one for drafting one this year. I say bring in the best Kickers in the nation and have them compete for the job. Put them in a situation that is easily the most stressful they will ever face. Have them start off with 20 yard field goals, kicking 5 of them. If they miss one they are done. Back it up to 30 and if they miss one they are done. Back it up to 40 and the highest percentage in a 10 kick trial wins. If there is a tie,we back it up to 50 and see who can win there. Bironas and Graham will be to expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 His name has such a bad association I've blacked it out.In any case, no kickers with one of our 4 draft picks please. The punter's name is Durant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestyln Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 for the sake of arguement, I'd trade down the 5th round pick for a lower 5th & 6th, and scoop both Louie Sakoda & Graham Gano. Both are versatile in kicking & punting; one if not BOTH will pan out. Stats don't lie... Louie_Sakoda__#35__K Age:22 Birth Date October 28, 1986 Class:Senior Hometown:SAN JOSE, CA Height:5-9 Weight:178lbs. CAREER__STATS FIELD_GOALS__PAT ____57_______137 ________________________________Kicking_Stats YEAR_TEAM__FGM__FGA__PCT____1-19__20-29__30-39__40-49___50+__LNG__XPM__XPA__PTS 2006_UTAH__16____20___80.0____1-1____5-5____7-8____3-5____0-1___45_____43___43____91 2007_UTAH__19____22___86.4____0-0____2-2____7-7____9-11___1-2___51_____38___40____95 2008_UTAH__22____24___91.7____0-0____4-4___10-10___6-7____2-3___53_____56___57____122 _________Punting Stats YEAR_TEAM__ATT_AVG___LNG__YDS 2005_UTAH__54___37.1___52___2002 2006_UTAH__59___44.0___75___2598 2007_UTAH__73___44.3___67___3231 2008_UTAH__56___42.1___81___2357 ================================================================================ Graham_Gano__#43___K Age:21 Birth_Date:April 9, 1987 Class:Senior Hometown:PENSACOLA, FL Height:6-1 Weight:197lbs. CAREER__STATS FIELD_GOALS__PAT ____24_______33 ________________________________Kicking_Stats YEAR_TEAM__FGM__FGA__PCT____1-19__20-29__30-39__40-49___50+__LNG__XPM__XPA__PTS 2008_FSU___24____26___92.3____0-0____3-3___11-11___5-5____5-7___53_____33___34____105 _________Punting Stats YEAR_TEAM__ATT_AVG___LNG__YDS 2006_FSU___67___40.8___63___2736 2007_FSU___58___43.3___64___2514 2008_FSU___22___42.7___58____939 ================================================================================ Jose_Martinez__#10___K Age:22 Birth_Date:July 24, 1986 Class:Senior Hometown:SAN JOSE, CA Height:5-10 Weight:200lbs. CAREER__STATS FIELD_GOALS__PAT ____37_______89 ________________________________Kicking_Stats YEAR_TEAM__FGM__FGA__PCT____1-19__20-29__30-39__40-49___50+__LNG__XPM__XPA__PTS 2007_UTEP__17____20___85.0____0-0____4-4____4-5____7-7____2-4___57_____44___46____95 2008_UTEP__20____27___74.1____0-0____5-5____8-8____6-7____1-7___64_____45___46____105 ================================================================================ ================================================================================ .....AND IF YOU MUST COMPARE.... Durant_Brooks__#14___P Age:23 Birth_Date:April 15, 1985 Height:6-1 Weight:202lbs. CAREER__STATS NO___AVERAGE__YARDS 144__90.6______6,525 _________Punting Stats YEAR_TEAM__ATT_AVG___LNG__YDS 2006_GT____79___45.5___63___3596 2007_GT____65___45.1___77___2929 **PLEASE USE QUICK REPLY** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 UFA= okey Draft pick on Kicker = stupid wenn ya have so view. And he is from UTEP, the last player we drafted from there was.....Jordan Palmer. He was a stupid pick so I don't trust this guy that made one great kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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