Mickalino Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Anyone heard of this stuff ? A potent, legal sedative.... http://www.sagewisdom.org/kratomguide.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufumonk Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Anyone heard of this stuff ?http://www.sagewisdom.org/kratomguide.html Sounds like a longer lasting but less intense Salvia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Why don't we just stop being retarded and legalize the real stuff and take it out of the hands of the criminals and actually do something to stimulate the economy instead of simply printing money instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What about that hooka stuff? is that any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What about that hooka stuff? is that any good? Hookas weren't for me. I spent $200 and got a bad ass one with 4 tubes and a ton of flavors and used it with close friends for a couple weeks. It doesn't get you stoned or anything, and we had fun doing it but its really a pain in the ass. I sold it all for $50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smackedHugo Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 There is no substitute. I've been waiting for some kind of legalize thread for a while now haha.:applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What about that hooka stuff? is that any good? It's pretty much just tobacco in molasses/honey etc. If you don't smoke cigarettes it will make you light headed, but it's not like smoking weed. It's very nice and smooth though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Hookas weren't for me. I spent $200 and got a bad ass one with 4 tubes and a ton of flavors and used it with close friends for a couple weeks. It doesn't get you stoned or anything, and we had fun doing it but its really a pain in the ass. I sold it all for $50 Yeah, the best way to get stoned off a hookah is to actually mix in weed with the tobacco, otherwise it's just a giant water pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljs Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Why don't we just stop being retarded and legalize the real stuff and take it out of the hands of the criminals and actually do something to stimulate the economy instead of simply printing money instead? exactly. Considering we spend more than $400million alone just fighting the Mexican drug war, and their top officials are typically involved. that is a whole other thread topic. Never heard of what the OP posted, but have heard of a Salvia plant. Then my buddy tells me this weekend that she has a salvia plant...I told her what we could do w it and she had no idea. funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Sounds like a longer lasting but less intense Salvia. I tried some of that once and it made me hide in the bathroom for a few minutes not wanting to interact with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drop Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What about that hooka stuff? is that any good? hooka stuff? A hooka is a device you smoke out of. You smoke flavored tobacco out of a hooka. So by hooka stuff....do you mean flavored tobacco? You can smoke weed out of a hooka, but that's not what they're intended for. As for this Kratom stuff....it's meant to be chewed and/or drank in a tea form. I doubt it's very much like weed at all. I've heard of it, but i've never tried it so i don't really know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I tried some of that once and it made me hide in the bathroom for a few minutes not wanting to interact with anyone. That's how I feel every morning at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 hooka stuff? A hooka is a device you smoke out of. You smoke flavored tobacco out of a hooka. So by hooka stuff....do you mean flavored tobacco?You can smoke weed out of a hooka, but that's not what they're intended for. As for this Kratom stuff....it's meant to be chewed and/or drank in a tea form. I doubt it's very much like weed at all. I've heard of it, but i've never tried it so i don't really know. I don't know the first thing about it. I just heard someone talking about it before so I just assumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufumonk Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I tried some of that once and it made me hide in the bathroom for a few minutes not wanting to interact with anyone. It's definitely not for everyone. I've only tried it a few times. I've had a very mild experience..........meditative state and I've had a not so pleasant experience.........I curled up in the fetal position (so I was told by my sitter) with tears streaming down my face. I'm still contemplating a DMT experience if I can ever get into the right frame of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwookas Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 go to high times the magazine and look for the hybrid buds. international oddites.com is the best. I bought a tube of Crystal Haze and if you pull bong hits with you swear that you are smoking some mexican schwag. it smells like crap but the buzz is cool. salvia is slack. hey if you want to go hardcore look for fly agaric mushrooms. eat some of them and you will be right. they claim that the mexican shamans would eat them to talk to the spirits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 exactly. Considering we spend more than $400million alone just fighting the Mexican drug war, and their top officials are typically involved. that is a whole other thread topic. Did you watch Traffic recently or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Guy. Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Those legal herbal buds are a joke. They do nothing, taste like ass and are a waste of money. Glad I didn't waste my money on it... when I was in HS some kid who was on probation used to smoke that ****... I smoked a bowl with him and it was just terrible. Anyways, mick how does weed affect you? does it make you lazy? Why do you want a legal substitute? I don't bother with smoking during semesters because weed and me = the laziest ****er you will ever meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunia5 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Not that this is a stoner web site or anything... but there is on strain called "Thunder F**k", that has very little pyschoactive affects, and just makes you wanna go to bed. For people who are nervous, and take prescription Valium, etc, it would be a perfect substitute. Unfortnately, we are still waiting for reality to settle in with our leaders. Another couple of years into the Obama administration... Those legal herbal buds are a joke. They do nothing, taste like ass and are a waste of money. Glad I didn't waste my money on it... when I was in HS some kid who was on probation used to smoke that ****... I smoked a bowl with him and it was just terrible. Anyways, mick how does weed affect you? does it make you lazy? Why do you want a legal substitute? I don't bother with smoking during semesters because weed and me = the laziest ****er you will ever meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Mick go to your local porn store buy a bag for salvia 40x extract put it into a corn cob pipe, light it and take a huge whiff and then hold your breath...and then come back here and write about it (it's legal don't worry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Sounds like a longer lasting but less intense Salvia. well thank god for that .... i did salvia once and slid off the friggin couch.... a lil more intense than what i liked.... i dont like not having control of basic motor functions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Mick go to your local porn store buy a bag for salvia 40x extract put it into a corn cob pipe, light it and take a huge whiff and then hold your breath...and then come back here and write about it(it's legal don't worry) The hole in the wall one in downtown Harrisonburg?:rotflmao:Some of my buddies would go there and get salvia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drop Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 go to high times the magazine and look for the hybrid buds. international oddites.com is the best. I bought a tube of Crystal Haze and if you pull bong hits with you swear that you are smoking some mexican schwag. it smells like crap but the buzz is cool. LOL!! Do not follow this kids advice. That international oddities crap is a JOKE. None of those "legal buds" are worth your time or money. Salvia will make you do crazy **** if you're not ready for what you're getting into and it's some of the really strong stuff. I did it once before, and against the instructions, my friends and I started with the most potent stuff. Never again, believe that. Even if it were a lower potency salvia.....wouldn't even entertain the idea. Except no substitutes....just smoke weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfuhl Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 What about that hooka stuff? is that any good? hookahs aren't really alternatives to weed.. there's a lil more headrush to it and less in the body I'm not a big fan of the herb and I've never smoked a cigarette, but I enjoy a hookah from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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