squatch66 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 for all the people that are wanting orakpo does the name vernon gholston ring a bell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 seriously Kiper should be called "The Weatherman" of the draft. Doesn't matter how wrong he is past the top 2. He keeps that Draft King mentality going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAFGA Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Detroit is not drafting a QB in the first round. Kiper is wrong right off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Another glaring hole seems to be at linebacker. I would love to trade down, and take Brian Cushing and then an OT in the second round. IMO, we can find a LB for good value in the mid to late rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 IMO, we can find a LB for good value in the mid to late rounds. Maybe, but here's our recent list of drafted LB's in the mid-late rounds ; Dallas Sartz (5) HB Blades (6) Kevin Simon (7) Robert McCune (5) Jared Newberry (6) IMO, we need to get a new LB who will be starting this season. I hope we get one in FA or within the first 3 rounds of the draft. To be honest, I can see us picking a LB first up in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Maybe' date=' but here's our recent list of drafted LB's in the mid-late rounds ;Dallas Sartz (5) HB Blades (6) Kevin Simon (7) Robert McCune (5) Jared Newberry (6) IMO, we need to get a new LB who will be starting this season. I hope we get one in FA or within the first 3 rounds of the draft. To be honest, I can see us picking a LB first up in the draft.[/quote'] Oh, I agree we need to address the position. It's supposed to be a deep position in the draft, which is why I think finding one later for value might be a possibilty. If someone could convince me we could get a Patrick Willis type of LB at #13 I would be all for it. I like the LB from Virginia a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I like the LB from Virginia a bit better. Who, Clint Sintim ? Is he a projected late first ? I'm not necessarily saying we go LB at #13, but if we trade back for extra picks, I could see us going LB with a pick in the 20's, then pick linemen in rounds 2 & 3. ( depending on what extra picks we may get ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaught76 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Unless it is Aaron Curry, we shouldn't be taking a LB at 13 or the first round at all for that matter. Our first pick(s) should be O-line or D-line (DT) in my opinion. Depending how things go, if we could snag Clay Matthews, USC or Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida or Gerald McRath, Southern Missippi with a 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Sintim is projected to go early in the 2nd, possibly late in the first but I don't see that happening unless he has an unreal day at the combine. I say that because this draft is deep at LB, inside and outside and considering other teams' needs I don't see him going until the 2nd. My dream scenario would be to trade down and land him in the 2nd, maybe using our first on an offensive or defensive tackle. Here's a good interview with Sintim: http://pit.scout.com/2/832696.html They say he's suited to play in a 3-4 but I think he would be very productive here in a 4-3, especially if we use him like we did Marcus Washington in the past, as an extra pass-rusher. This kid could be another James Harrison or Joey Porter type for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The problems with the Redskins continue to be centered around the fact that they have old bodies on the offensive and defensive lines, thus they are dominated by other teams on the line. Portis has to rush for 30 carries just to get 100 yards, etc. Linebacker and running back and receivers and QB are all sexy positions, but the Redskins are packed with defensive ends who have played linebacker or could convert to linebacker: Jason Taylor, Andre Carter, Chris Wilson, not to mention all the linebackers we already have. Daniels is injured and 35 years old. The Redskins will trade down, its almost a guaranteed lock if they get an offer. And then the Skins will draft a lineman, either offensive or defensive. The Skins rarely do the right thing, but in this case, I think they have no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Cerrato will NOT take any lineman in the first round. Period. So don't listen to Kiper at all. If Crabtree falls that far then they will pick him. If Sanchez falls that far we will take him. No lineman will be in the mix for that pick sure as heck. Dreamers. Lineman will always get the short shrift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVskinsfan Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 It all depends on what we do in the off season!!! We are the "paper" champs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 It all depends on what we do in the off season!!!We are the "paper" champs!!! Very true. Ideally, we could address at least one player at DT, OL, and LB, so when the draft comes, we have a lot of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 With us possibly getting rid of Jason Taylor next year, I do think that we will have to have someone opposite of Andre Carter. I know that Mayock was really high on that DT from Boston College, but if he isn't there I don't think that there is anything wrong with going DE. It addresses our need at DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 With us possibly getting rid of Jason Taylor next year, I do think that we will have to have someone opposite of Andre Carter. I know that Mayock was really high on that DT from Boston College, but if he isn't there I don't think that there is anything wrong with going DE. It addresses our need at DL. Not quite. Demetric Evans was pretty productive last year. The issue with our DL is not DE, but DT. I think we need at least two DT's brought in either through the draft, FA, or both. I actually do like Tyson Jackson. He is a bigger DE, much like Peppers, who can rush the passer and play the run. He is like a Justin Tuck who can slide to the inside to play DT on passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Cerrato will NOT take any lineman in the first round. Period. So don't listen to Kiper at all. If Crabtree falls that far then they will pick him. If Sanchez falls that far we will take him. No lineman will be in the mix for that pick sure as heck. Dreamers. Lineman will always get the short shrift. Yeh, all this talk of lineman is very interesting, but when are we going to start looking at players we might actually pick. Any good WR / RB / CB options at #13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Actually, I think the Skins might will surprise by trading down to the 20s and picking up Everette Brown or George Selvie. Or am I just wishfully thinking like the rest of you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Kiper is a ****ing idiot! I like him, but his mocks are ghey. Guarantee he changes this come draft once he realizes that the Redskins need an OT or DT.It doesn't matter who is playing DE, without good DT's, they will be ineffective. I want Raji but he will be gone before us. Orakpo will likely go to a 3-4 defense team. We need DL (either DT or DE) and OL and LB... BPA out of those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 The trend is becoming drafting lots of DE's. I like Orakpo but don't think he'll be available at 13. Fingers are crossed they trade down to accumulate more first day picks. I'd love to see at least a DL, OL and LB chosen on day one. A forth pick with another OL would be better yet. Bingo! I'd love to see them trade down again and chose DL, OL, and a versatil LB that can play both O/ILB. I would also be happy with 2 DL / 1 OL or 2 OL / 1 DL, ofcourse knowing the Skins history we will probably choose anything but OL/DL in the first round. Maybe we will choose 3 more receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 It is quite obvious that Vinnie doesn't check Extremeskins before they pick or else we would be in much better shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Actually, I think the Skins might will surprise by trading down to the 20s and picking up Everette Brown or George Selvie. Or am I just wishfully thinking like the rest of you guys? I'd say wishfully thinking because Selvie is staying in school. Personally I'm not too enthralled with the defensive ends this year. If you look at this year compared to next you'll find that next year's draft will be much deeper on the defensive line. However, it'll be a lot weaker on the offensive line. That's why I'm starting to think we should just pick up offensive linemen and go d line next year. And to someone who said Tyson Jackson was like Peppers. He's big like peppers but his pass rushing is very limited. The guy has a total of 8 sacks in the last two years. He had one really good year but he is no peppers or tuck. I figure what we're looking at with him is more of a renaldo wynn run-stuffer type. That, of course, wouldn't be so bad if our olb's were better playmakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaught76 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Man, if there were just that ever elusive hybrid high quality OT / OLB type of player in this draft we'd be set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwilli1025 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I agree I would go for B.J. Raji, DT and move him to nose when they move to a 3 - 4. When the new head coach comes in 2010 whoever that will be. I wish Snyder was smart enough to go after Scott Pioli, then I would have more confidence in our picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 It is quite obvious that Vinnie doesn't check Extremeskins before they pick or else we would be in much better shape. I don't know....there were several people here arguing for Malcolm Kelly last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Actually, I think the Skins might will surprise by trading down to the 20s and picking up Everette Brown or George Selvie. Or am I just wishfully thinking like the rest of you guys? I think I could deal with this, depending on what we get back. I'd still prefer a DT though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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