StartColtNow Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Jacobs is a power back with deceptive speed while Sellers has never played HB in the NFL and the ancient Maya used their calendar to clock his 40 speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatsnack Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Mike is a guy who runs into people, running backs have to run to daylight. As big as Mike is, look at the Kannoy Kennedy hit last year vs. Detroit. He knocked Kennedy ass over teakettle and Kennedy still made the tackle by tangling up Mike's legs. A natural runner just makes Kennedy miss and keeps going. Mike is a load and a baaad *shut your mouth* but a natural running back he is not. Having said that, neither is Jacobs and the poster who said that Jacobs is impotent if you get to him early is exactly right. If he can't square his shoulders and run downhill he is ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp03 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Dam that, Im a big fan of Sellers, but I'd make that trade in a heartbeat..... You gotta be kidding!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Brown Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I would like to see what would happen if he got more carries, he was a feature back in the CFL and job the job done. Check this vid from his Winnipeg days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxf_-g3eT5s dude, CFL < NFL. mike is in no way, shape or form to be a running back. he's lucky to get the carries and opportunities he has with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBnotBlades Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 He played HB in the CFL pretty well. That said, at this point in his career he's no halfback, but can make a heckofa fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Sellers isn't a dick. That's why he can't be Brandon Jacobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Dam that, Im a big fan of Sellers, but I'd make that trade in a heartbeat..... Me too... Sellers is very good once he gets set and moving downhill though. He does very well catching the short to mid range stuff. I wish Zorn would use the screen more with Sellers and Portis. He needs to figure how to get guys like Sellers and Cooley involved in more than just pass protection when playing against high pressure defenses. Screens might help somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 He doesn't have the vision for it. The guy can't find the holes when he runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinwhylee Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Sellers runs the ball like a lineman, not a tailback, halfback, or fullback... QFT. I don't know why some think that just because the guy is big, he's a solution to the short yardage situations. Sellers isn't a goal line back. Why do you think he doesn't get the nod in those situations? Cuz he can't do it. On top of that, someone showed some stats of doing a play action to Sellers at the goal line or something. How many attempts was that out of? It seems like it's more often than not an incomplete pass from the ball getting batted down (cuz Sellers is slow and can't get separation for life) or Sellers doesn't catch it. Don't get me wrong. I like Sellers as a blocker. But don't put the dude on a pedestal cuz he's big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Agreed. Like him a lot, but Mike just isn't the ball carrier that Jacobs is and won't be. As an occasional,(read: rare change up), receiver out of the backfield and runner he's okay for some yards. Can't see him doing this full time or even half the time that Jacobs plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Personally, I'd like to see Sellers in for a couple of series at tailback, in a modified Riggo-drill. Bring him in fresh in the mid- to late 3rd quarter when the D is winded a bit and let him go to work. He could handle it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Brown Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Personally, I'd like to see Sellers in for a couple of series at tailback, in a modified Riggo-drill. Bring him in fresh in the mid- to late 3rd quarter when the D is winded a bit and let him go to work. He could handle it... what evidence do you have of his play as a ball carrier to back that up? i've seen mike getting stopped on numerous 3rd and shorts throughout his time here. the guy is a great blocker and i like him a lot, but he doesn't need to handle the rock much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flycoach Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Is it because he can't hold on to the Ball? Both of these men have similar builds. Jacobs is 6-4 264. Sellers is 6-3 270 (or more). Sellers has also shown us he has some hops in the open field, jacobs has more quicks in the open field. It seems the Skins should at least try to work Sellers into more of a carrying back as well as remaining a Blocking Back. Obviously the bulk of his work would still be Blocking, but I think it would be a hell of a Three headed monster with Portis & Betts. Thoughts?HTTR :dallasuck:applause: Not agile enough, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I think Sellers running the football is a very scary thing. Scary from the standpoint that the guy could fumble on his very first carry. Zorn knows what he has with Sellers and that's a very good blocking FB. Zorn would have used Sellers as a RB by now if he thought the guy had the potential to run the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 what evidence do you have of his play as a ball carrier to back that up?i've seen mike getting stopped on numerous 3rd and shorts throughout his time here. the guy is a great blocker and i like him a lot, but he doesn't need to handle the rock much We caught a glimpse of it in 2007 against Detroit when Gibbs called his number 3 or 4 times in a row. 5 carries, 24 yards in that limited stint. He was pumped, the crowd got excited, and then he was out. And granted, the CFL is nothing near the NFL, but he carried the rock there, so it's not a foreign concept to him. Short yardage might not be his forte, but in a normal set he'll have some open space, where he can break tackles and run over people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 We caught a glimpse of it in 2007 against Detroit when Gibbs called his number 3 or 4 times in a row. 5 carries, 24 yards in that limited stint. He was pumped, the crowd got excited, and then he was out. And granted, the CFL is nothing near the NFL, but he carried the rock there, so it's not a foreign concept to him.Short yardage might not be his forte, but in a normal set he'll have some open space, where he can break tackles and run over people. Should we have Lorenzo ALexander run? So, based on 5 carries for 24 yards he should be as good as Brandon Jacobs? That is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Personally, I'd like to see Sellers in for a couple of series at tailback, in a modified Riggo-drill. Bring him in fresh in the mid- to late 3rd quarter when the D is winded a bit and let him go to work. He could handle it... Just because it works Madden doesn't mean it works in real life. Should we trade Malcom Kelly for Asante Samuel? It worked in Madden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meskeet21 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Just because it works Madden doesn't mean it works in real life.Should we trade Malcom Kelly for Asante Samuel? It worked in Madden... bull****, you need like a first rounder and more. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 bull****, you need like a first rounder and more. lol Ha... well, if you play for 4 seasons and Malcom Kelly become good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinwhylee Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Short yardage might not be his forte, but in a normal set he'll have some open space, where he can break tackles and run over people. That's a good point. Sellers ain't gonna push the pile but if he's running the ball and going mano a mano, he may have a better chance. THAT'D be worth experimenting in my opinion. But please stop throwing to the man. Defenders can stick to him by jogging. Also, he doesn't have very good hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I hope Zorn will give Sellers carries before the Rock. Or go 4 wide. Rock cannot handle the blitz anymore he is too light being a HB now and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 It's probably more of a vision issue than any physical measurable. Sellers thinks like a fullback. I love you signature but won't get into that here in the forum. I think Sellers could easily make the transition to carrying the ball more on goal line situations. Remember in 05-06 he caught the most TDs in the red zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbie8046 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 ...because he isn't Brandon Jacobs. Why can't Jason Campbell be our Tom Brady? Why can't Santana be our Randy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBurgNGold Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 ...because he isn't Brandon Jacobs.Why can't Jason Campbell be our Tom Brady? Why can't Santana be our Randy? Probably cuz Randy has 9 feet on Santana to start with. :doh: I was never trying to say Sellers could be Jacobs. I just think he could be worked into more of a carrying back based on his past experience running the ball and his size. Could be an added bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Zorn keeps ducking this same question. There is no excuse not to hammer 270lbs out of the backfield, especialy when we are at the goal line and nobody else can power it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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