Predicto Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I think putting a movie like this out before the Bush Administration is out of office is very irresponsible. Like it or not, this is still our government and our president until the end of the year, and the World is watching. I shouldn't expect any better from Oliver Stone, I guess. With that said, I thought Primary Colors was also irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Before we go lynching Oliver Stone, let's keep in mind that this is his schtick. Spielberg does action/adventure, Lucas does sci-fi, Coppola does crime and war. Oliver Stone does conspiracy. He does it well. If you like conspiracy, you like Stone. Just like if you enjoy those other genres, you enjoy those other film makers. All films take literary liberties. Even "Saving Private Ryan." If you don't like Bush, you'll like the film. If you support Bush, you won't. Oliver's ability to entertain is what's key here and he's done his share, brilliantly entertaining audiences with "JFK" and "Platoon" to name two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 :secret:W's not running. Figured this out all by yourself did you? Larry, you're one of the people around here I'm certain is operating on more than the minimal amount of brain power, and therefore, know exactly what I was saying. If I need to explain it to you, I will, though I'd be disappointed to learn I was wrong about your intellect. I assume you were just wearing your Mr. Smarty Pants suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 And that, right there, is a major problem. I think it is horrid that much of the world gains their insight into American culture through HOLLYWOOD. It is what is, might as well use it to our advantage I find it even more abhorrent that there are Americans outside of Hollywood who actually think this is a GOOD thing. Good Lord. I'll take that as an admission that you're embarrassed that you ever voted for him. It's good start - "admitting you have a problem" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'll take that as an admission that you're embarrassed that you ever voted for him. It's good start - "admitting you have a problem" Yep, that conclusion makes total sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissance Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 It portrays him (Bush) as a tragic hero with the villains being Cheney and Wolfowitz. Saw the movie last night and this is pretty much the case, with the addition of Rove. The movie doesn't portray Bush as evil or menacing or stupid. It more shows him to be misguided and heavily influenced by the opinions of others. I actually thought the most interesting aspect of the movie was the relationship between Bush Sr and George W., which pretty much drove the "plot" IMO. In a weird way I think you're meant to feel sorry for W. by the end, while at the same time realizing that he is completely responsible for everything that's happened. I actually walked out of the theater pissed off, not at the movie, but at the reminder of what went down 2000-2004. For the most part, your own political views will pretty much determine your opinion of this movie. Also, the movie ends in 2004, and the woman who played Condoleeza Rice was absolutely horrible. Everyone else I felt was portrayed accurately enough, but she just looked like a caricature you would see on SNL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Saw the movie last night and this is pretty much the case, with the addition of Rove. The movie doesn't portray Bush as evil or menacing or stupid. It more shows him to be misguided and heavily influenced by the opinions of others. I actually thought the most interesting aspect of the movie was the relationship between Bush Sr and George W., which pretty much drove the "plot" IMO. In a weird way I think you're meant to feel sorry for W. by the end, while at the same time realizing that he is completely responsible for everything that's happened. I actually walked out of the theater pissed off, not at the movie, but at the reminder of what went down 2000-2004. For the most part, your own political views will pretty much determine your opinion of this movie. Also, the movie ends in 2004, and the woman who played Condoleeza Rice was absolutely horrible. Everyone else I felt was portrayed accurately enough, but she just looked like a caricature you would see on SNL. I can agree with this. I think Cheney should be tarred and feathered in a public square for the rest of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 It gets an C. It doesn't tell the whole story; which would've made it a better movie. It doesn't even show the 2000 election, which is a key moment, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 AWFUL AWFUL movie god so boring it had it's moments, but it just wasn't enjoyable I walked out of it, first movie that I ever walked out of too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissance Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 It gets an C. It doesn't tell the whole story; which would've made it a better movie. It doesn't even show the 2000 election, which is a key moment, LOL. It would be impossible to tell the "whole story" in one movie. Stone didn't portray the 2000 election because that didn't have any bearing on the war which is what drove the movie's plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 :secret:W's not running. Look above at Deans signature.. The W turning into an M... The commercials would have you believe Bush s running again also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 how well do you think oliver stone knew W? seriously. this is why stuff like this gets to me. How well do you think Zack Snyder knew the Spartans?Seriously. What are you smoking? :wavetowel:jump::bow::nutkick::hump: :ols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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