East Coast Vs West Coast

[DarrellsMyHero28]

You don't really want to try to put VA up against CA college wise. Fortunately for East Coast supporters, they get to claim New England.

I'm not comparing.

But East coast kicks West coast's ass in colleges.

Duke, UNC, Ivy League, MIT, UPenn, Princeton etc takes the cake over USC, Berkley and Stanford

[techboy]

No doubt. It's possible that Massachusetts by itself beats the entire west coast for colleges, and maybe even the rest of the country. Of course, they had a couple of hundred years head start...

[BigMike619]

Vegas tops any gambling you can do on the east coast. Hell, Reno even beats out AC. Indian casinos everywhere.

the mass transit of DC is something to marvel at though when compared to most of CA.

[No_Pressure]

Here is what I noticed from 2 years in Arizona:

1. East Coast food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> West Coast food.

I went to pretty much every restaurant in town, and nobody knew what the hell a cheesesteak was. I went to the deli counter at the local grocery store and asked them to slice some ribeye as thin as they could so I could use it to make a cheesesteak and they were all very confused in the sense that A. They had no idea what a cheesesteak was, and B. They had never been asked to slice something like that before. West coast Chinese food is invariably worse than east coast Chinese food, and though there are a few good pizza places where I lived in AZ, they all use the same spicy sauces and they are all inferior to pizza you can find on the east coast and central U.S. though most Americans are dumb enough to think that Pizza Hut is the same taste as Uno's pizzaria in Chicago, I know the difference and really...Arizona pizza is inferior. There are plenty more foods that I found inferior and few that I found superior, the standout being In-N-Out Burger as a top notch fast food restaurant.

2. Arizona's public education system <<<<<<< Maryland's public education system.

I made some friends and talked with many people at college in Arizona, and there was a distinct difference in the extent out our educations. I can't even begin to get into the specifics but to briefly summarize: I had history and political science majors thinking I had the same major and I actually learned to write, whether it is creativly or for a specific purpose. Almost all of my friends wrote essays that sounded like a 1st grader writing a paragraph on what they want for Christmas, and whats worse is the teachers actually gave them A's and B's for their efforts. Needless to say I got effortless A's in every writing course I took.

After getting into a discussion with a friend of mine about the difference in educational systems we both came to the conclusion that the 50th in the nation ranking that Arizona was awarded a while ago was pretty well deserved.

3. Arizona drivers = Maryland drivers

Arizona drivers are 100 times more courteous on the highway. They travel in the right, leave the left open for passing (for the most part) and understand that impeding the travel of another vehicle at 80 mph is a bad thing. The same drivers are 100 times more dangerous in the city. In Phoenix "green" means go, "yellow" means go and red means "go faster" to the north, Flagstaff is an obstacle course of suicide lanes. Couple that with the fact that drivers in Arizona will pull out in front of anything, and I mean ANYTHING, and you can see how it would pose a problem. 1 lane is open to pull out into on this 50 MPH road? The 2nd lane has a guy doing 55 in it? I GUESS I'LL PULL OUT AND SCARE THE LIVING **** OUT OF HIM. Drivers in MD are bad, don't get me wrong...but usually they will only scare the **** out of you for a reason. Arizona drivers do it because they just don't know any better.

4. Arizona's highway system >>>>>>>>>>> Maryland's highway system

Honestly...the state of AZ builds a highway before it is desperately needed. Scary concept huh? They have a major highway that doesn't employ an ultimatly useless "local lane" system like 270 does, they don't build 500 clover leafs, they simply build a ramp straight from the highway to an overpass. On ramps are metered during rush hour to keep traffic moving, and there are a few other things that make way more sense than Maryland that I'm forgetting. Oh yeah, they don't make their speed limits artificially slow on major highways where a higher speed can be handled. 75 is the limit on I-17, 55 is the limit on 270 north at 6:00 AM when most drivers could honestly be going 90 mph safely. Yes, yes I know, gas mileage, etc. it still pisses me off that they'll make a road that could be 75 a 55 zone, then put a bunch of cops in there to collect revenue.

5. Maryland land >>>>>>>> Arizona land

I'm not saying I don't like the climate of Flagstaff, up in the mountains with cold, snowy winters, pine forests, etc. I'm talking more about the other 90% of the state. The desert sucks. You're always thirsty, it's always hot, and you can't have decent landscaping. As a landscaper here in MD I am well versed in the ways of shaping an ugly yard into a great one. Ingredient number one: Grass.

Grass doesn't grow in Phoenix unless you're rich enough to pay a 5,000,000,000,000 dollar water bill, so everybody has a lawn entirely composed of rocks. What the ****? How ugly is that? Of course it's just a matter of personal taste, you should have figured that out at the beginning of this rant when I was talking about food (except for cheesesteaks and superior chinese food, those are very real issues) but still, how much better does a colonial style house with a nice green yard, well maintained mulch beds with decorative flowers and well trimmed hedges, nice tall oak trees, etc. look compared to a stucco encased adobe home with a front yard made out of rocks and cacti?

Rant over. If you find a factual error or an extremely arguable idea or conclusion I wrote please, for the love of god, don't tell me about it. :laugh:

[bch89]

If you can snowboard and go to the beach all within 2 hours of each other than that is pretty sick.

[No_Pressure]

the sports programs in CA (ecspecially SoCal) are superior to the East Coast. Maybe not FL when it comes to baseball but its a close second there.

Southern Cal football isn't as big as Florida and Texas...oh and I would be willing to bet there are a few prospects from Maryland, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, and West Virginia that would beg to differ as well. Southern Cal might win for basketball and as for baseball, all of Central America has us beat :laugh:

You don't really want to try to put VA up against CA college wise. Fortunately for East Coast supporters, they get to claim New England.

We also get to claim Johns Hopkins, Duke, the entire Ivy League, and really, what is so much better about west coast colleges? UMD, UPENN, PSU, UVA, VaTech, UNC, NYU, etc. are great schools.

[BigMike619]

dude, AZ doesnt count. lol

and by the way, try getting mexican food in DC. you will want to kill yourself.

[Oldskool]

Here is what I noticed from 2 years in Arizona:

1. East Coast food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> West Coast food.

That might be true in Cactus Lick, Arizona but not on the coast.

There are only two places that top west coast for dining.

1. If you want real Cuban/Spanish food, you have to go to Miami. Nowhere here can they get it right; they either **** it up by trying to make it California cuisined or it gets polluted by influences of central american cuisine.

2. Omitting #1, the best ethnic food i've ever had has been in NYC. Bar none. And they have the most diverse array of places and types of food to eat as well.

[BigMike619]

Southern Cal football isn't as big as Florida and Texas...oh and I would be willing to bet there are a few prospects from Maryland, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, and West Virginia that would beg to differ as well. Southern Cal might win for basketball and as for baseball, all of Central America has us beat :laugh:

USC football.

and Central America isnt even in this discussion.

[No_Pressure]

AZ counts as west coast if Las Vegas counts, USC is very good, so is Florida, Miami, and depending on how far inland you want to cut off the east coast, there are a bunch more.

As for the food, like I said it's all about what you like. I'm a huge fan of Italian food and Chinese food and I've been on enough trips to California to know that they can't hold a candle to the East coast or central. Here's another thing for you west coast food lovers: all of you think that you are eating tasty crabs, and have great sea food, especially in San Francisco. Come to Maryland, try a blue crab, sample some of the other sea food, and prepare to feel like that west coast stuff is raw sewage by comparison.

[Predicto]

Here is what I noticed from 2 years in Arizona:

1. East Coast food >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> West Coast food.

Arizona is not West Coast. Arizona is closer to places like Denver and Dallas in its food than it is to California.

I posit that there is no place in America with better food than San Francisco. You might find a better single item other places (pizza in Chicago, crabcake in Maryland, cheesesteak in Philly) but overall, no place covers the entire waterfront of the World's Food the way they do it here. Chinese, Italian, sushi, seafood, from high end French to cheap burritos, the food here is uniformely excellent.

New York is damn good too, but the produce here is more varied and more fresh than it is anywhere else and puts SF over the top. This is food-obsessed town - mediocre restaurants die a quick and painful death here (well, except for a few seafood places down at Fisherman's Wharf, who survive entirely on the tourist trade).

[BigMike619]

I was raised on blue crab bro so you are preaching to the choir there but you are trippin if you think you can get good mexican food there. And come try sushi out here in CA and tell me its raw sewage.

Miami hasnt had a decent football team since ST and CP left. Florida is good sure, but who has more Heisman winners?

[BigMike619]

Arizona is not West Coast. Arizona is closer to places like Denver and Dallas in its food than it is to California.

I posit that there is no place in America with better food than San Francisco. You might find a better single item other places (pizza in Chicago, crabcake in Maryland, cheesesteak in Philly) but overall, no place covers the entire waterfront of the World's Food the way they do it here. Chinese, Italian, sushi, seafood, from high end French to cheap burritos, the food here is uniformely excellent.

New York is damn good too, but the produce here is more varied and more fresh than it is anywhere else and puts SF over the top. This is food-obsessed town - mediocre restaurants die a quick and painful death here (well, except for a few seafood places down at Fisherman's Wharf, who survive entirely on the tourist trade).

hate to rain on this perfect post but you arent going to get better mexican food then in SD. :2cents:

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

hate to rain on this perfect post but you arent going to get better mexican food then in SD. :2cents:

Damn right! :notworthy

[Predicto]

AZ counts as west coast if Las Vegas counts, USC is very good, so is Florida, Miami, and depending on how far inland you want to cut off the east coast, there are a bunch more.

As for the food, like I said it's all about what you like. I'm a huge fan of Italian food and Chinese food and I've been on enough trips to California to know that they can't hold a candle to the East coast or central. Here's another thing for you west coast food lovers: all of you think that you are eating tasty crabs, and have great sea food, especially in San Francisco. Come to Maryland, try a blue crab, sample some of the other sea food, and prepare to feel like that west coast stuff is raw sewage by comparison.

Blue Crab >>> all. No one can deny that. :notworthy Dungeness crab is a gimmick in comparison. Luckily that is not the only Seafood in the ocean.

And if you think that the Chinese food in the DC area is better than the Chinese food in San Francisco (which has a 30% Asian population), well I don't know where you have been eating, but it is different places than me. Next time you come to town, let me pick your restaurant.

[Predicto]

hate to rain on this perfect post but you arent going to get better mexican food then in SD. :2cents:

I will give SD has great Mexican food (especially fish tacos). O

f course, the brother in law of your Mexican cook down there is cooking the same kind of Mexican food up here.= for us. And we kick SD's butt in other cuisines, especially at the expensive end of the dining meter.

But I'm not here to rag on San Diego. I like San Diego.

I'm here to stand with you, defending Cali against these ignoramuses who think they have it better on the East Coast.

[BigMike619]

I will give SD has great Mexican food (especially fish tacos). O

f course, the brother in law of your Mexican cook down there is cooking the same kind of Mexican food up here.= for us. And we kick SD's butt in other cuisines, especially at the expensive end of the dining meter.

But I'm not here to rag on San Diego. I like San Diego.

I'm here to stand with you, defending Cali against these ignoramuses who think they have it better on the East Coast.

yeah, Im here to back you up as well even though we stomp you on the sushi level as well. But that isnt about that, this is about us beating out the East Coast.

I will say this though, you dont get to "pick" crabs like you could when I was a kid in MD. They would bring out the newspaper and put it all over the picnic table and put bushels of crabs on there. Whole crabs, not just legs and Old Bay seasoning. Im SO glad that is finally out here now!!

[No_Pressure]

See, I would have to consider Mexican, French, Japanese (sushi), etc. to be desirable food in order to rate one coast over another. Now I was of course ranting about AZ which I agree is different in cuisine than California (yes, I've been to SF and SD more than a few times) I think of AZ as the west coast the same as Big Mike included Las Vegas, Reno, and various Indian casinos as west coast vs. Atlantic city. I lived 3 hours from Las Vegas in AZ. Is it west coast? Not geographically, but I think of it as the same sort of region.

Anyways, I'm not a fan of much outside of straight up good ole' fashioned Italian food with some German in there also, and once again, there is absolutely no better place in the world for pizza than either NYC or Chicago, either way when the words "Italian food" and "city" come to mind, how many people are thinking San Fran over NY and Chicago?

I'm glad we all seem to agree on sea food, I was disappointed with the wharf in SF compared to various places near the bay here in MD.

Oh and come on with the Heisman winners, thats like saying one NFL team is better than another because they've had more players win the MVP award. Championships are what matter, I know USC has a lot of them and perhaps they simply are the greatest college football team out there. That still doesn't mean the entire coast is better than the east coast. UCLA, Cal, Oregon, and Washington have been good at times, but there are just as many good teams on the east coast.

PS: We don't have earthquakes and half of our state isn't burning to the ground.

[BigMike619]

See, I would have to consider Mexican, French, Japanese (sushi), etc. to be desirable food in order to rate one coast over another. Now I was of course ranting about AZ which I agree is different in cuisine than California (yes, I've been to SF and SD more than a few times) I think of AZ as the west coast the same as Big Mike included Las Vegas, Reno, and various Indian casinos as west coast vs. Atlantic city. I lived 3 hours from Las Vegas in AZ. Is it west coast? Not geographically, but I think of it as the same sort of region.

Anyways, I'm not a fan of much outside of straight up good ole' fashioned Italian food with some German in there also, and once again, there is absolutely no better place in the world for pizza than either NYC or Chicago, either way when the words "Italian food" and "city" come to mind, how many people are thinking San Fran over NY and Chicago?

I'm glad we all seem to agree on sea food, I was disappointed with the wharf in SF compared to various places near the bay here in MD.

Oh and come on with the Heisman winners, thats like saying one NFL team is better than another because they've had more players win the MVP award. Championships are what matter, I know USC has a lot of them and perhaps they simply are the greatest college football team out there. That still doesn't mean the entire coast is better than the east coast. UCLA, Cal, Oregon, and Washington have been good at times, but there are just as many good teams on the east coast.

PS: We don't have earthquakes and half of our state isn't burning to the ground.

no its not. quality players flock to USC because of the football program and Pete Carroll. What you are saying is just silly.

and you may not have earthquakes but we dont get sand storms and we have something you will always drive 8 hours for. an ocean

and I said MD crab was better, not seafood overall. That does go to my friend Predicto and SF.

[SoCalSkins]

No doubt. It's possible that Massachusetts by itself beats the entire west coast for colleges, and maybe even the rest of the country. Of course, they had a couple of hundred years head start...

Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley and Cal Tech are pretty hard to beat.

[No_Pressure]

no its not. quality players flock to USC because of the football program and Pete Carroll. What you are saying is just silly.

and you may not have earthquakes but we dont get sand storms and we have something you will always drive 8 hours for. an ocean

and I said MD crab was better, not seafood overall. That does go to my friend Predicto and SF.

I drive 40 minutes to get to the Ocean from my home here in Maryland, forgive me for not updating my location in my profile but I go to college in AZ, though I was born in D.C.

We don't get many sand storms in Maryland

PS: The ocean here isn't 40 degrees year round and full of seaweed.

[BigMike619]

I drive 40 minutes to get to the Ocean from my home here in Maryland, forgive me for not updating my location in my profile but I go to college in AZ, though I was born in D.C.

We don't get many sand storms in Maryland

fix yo **** FOO!!

[Predicto]

Anyways, I'm not a fan of much outside of straight up good ole' fashioned Italian food with some German in there also, and once again, there is absolutely no better place in the world for pizza than either NYC or Chicago, either way when the words "Italian food" and "city" come to mind, how many people are thinking San Fran over NY and Chicago?

Having lived in both Chicago and San Francisco, I definitely can say that the Italian restaurant food I have had is better out here - much less heavy. This was originally a heavily Italian town, and North Beach still has a ton of great restaurants.

German, not so much, but who goes hunting for German food? I know where to find a good bratwurst, and that's all I need from Germany.

I'm glad we all seem to agree on sea food, I was disappointed with the wharf in SF compared to various places near the bay here in MD.

No one eats at Fisherman's Wharf except tourists. The great seafood places here (and there are many) are not at the wharf. The only place down there that is even decent is Scoma's. Go to Aqua or Farralon or Swan Oyster Depot or Yabbies or or Pesce or Catch... not to tourist traps.

[Mooka]

Rant over. If you find a factual error or an extremely arguable idea or conclusion I wrote please, for the love of god, don't tell me about it. :laugh:

We're talking the coasts here buddy...

Bad Chinese food on the West coast? :no:

PS. - So Cal trums NO Cal any day of the week..unless youre a dirty hippie

Overrated.

[BigMike619]

We're talking the coasts here buddy...

Bad Chinese food on the West coast? :no:

Overrated.

hippie

I knew I smelled a comment like that coming from ya.

HEY HIPPIE, THE DEAD BROKE UP!! GET A JOB!! :laugh: