SkinsAllDay34 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 We need to sign these guys ASAP Camp is in less than 2 weeks and I, with most of us dont want a hold out situation... Does anyone have any info/rumors about the three 2nd rounders (thomas, kelly and davis) signings anytime soon? Kelly and Thomas= Co-offensive rookies of the year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney26 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 As soon as Im done with this ham sandwich. Om nom nom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanindallas88 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Probably fairly soon...Matt Forte signed today and that helps set the value for 2nd rounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsince72 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I was wondering the same thing. I'm more interested to see the amounts of the contracts. That will truly show if what direction the FO is taking us. I say it will be conservative in many aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsAllDay34 Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Matt forte's contract was 4 years...numbers were not disclosed. But they did say his guaranteed money will be more than the sidney rice (44th pick in 07) which was 2.6 million. Forte was selected 44th BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinSince87 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 the word of the day is "relax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemSkinz Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 The Hobbits are going to Isengard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 These guys should have been signed weeks ago, so far as I'm concerned. We should have made them a reasonable offer and told them to take it or leave it within 72 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 BEFORE training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGI Jef Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 These guys should have been signed weeks ago, so far as I'm concerned. We should have made them a reasonable offer and told them to take it or leave it within 72 hours. i somewhat disagree. as unfair as it may seem, i am worried due to the very possible Brady Quinn-like situations we have on our hands with Kelly and Thomas. sure, i highly doubt either of their situations will drag out that long, the fact remains that both of them would be factually correct in stating that their value is higher than the picks where they were chosen. now, i agree with the whole 'well you werent chosen there - you were chosen here, so this is your value' camp. it is only fair. but the fact remains that a lot of agents and players have the very opposite going through their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Zornography Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 These guys should have been signed weeks ago, so far as I'm concerned. We should have made them a reasonable offer and told them to take it or leave it within 72 hours. I agree with you for the most part. I don't know about the 72 hour ultimatum, but I see it like if the first pick was signed sealed and delivered before the second pick of the draft was even announced...you would think it would have had a domino effect and set the bar and sped negotiations up for all the other draftees. As opposed to the first pick having a long hold out that takes up all of training camp like the last couple of years. It's all good though, they will sign and we will fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 i somewhat disagree. as unfair as it may seem, i am worried due to the very possible Brady Quinn-like situations we have on our hands with Kelly and Thomas. sure, i highly doubt either of their situations will drag out that long, the fact remains that both of them would be factually correct in stating that their value is higher than the picks where they were chosen. now, i agree with the whole 'well you werent chosen there - you were chosen here, so this is your value' camp. it is only fair. but the fact remains that a lot of agents and players have the very opposite going through their heads. See, I have a totally different take on the NFL Draft and rookie signings..... I send these guys their contracts to sign three weeks after the draft. Whether they're the #1 Pick or Mr. Irrelevant. They can choose to sign the contract within 72 hours or they can choose to sit on their backsides and rot for a full year then re-enter the draft. Take their pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGI Jef Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 See, I have a totally different take on the NFL Draft and rookie signings.....I send these guys their contracts to sign three weeks after the draft. Whether they're the #1 Pick or Mr. Irrelevant. They can choose to sign the contract within 72 hours or they can choose to sit on their backsides and rot for a full year then re-enter the draft. Take their pick. i do think that that may be what happens to a lot of guys next year. a lot of guys will turn pro to cash in on the inflated rookie salaries knowing that it might well be their last chance before the system is restructured. i think that, next year, teams will be able to throw a number that is far lower than usual (but perhaps higher than they would get if they sat out and were redrafted the following year). for this year, though, i thnk it is dangerous to take such a hard edge. even if the player does eventually sign, there will be a lot of bad blood to begin a career, and in this era of trade demands and holding out of training camp that is a slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins:Victory_or_Death Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I agree with you for the most part. I don't know about the 72 hour ultimatum, but I see it like if the first pick was signed sealed and delivered before the second pick of the draft was even announced...you would think it would have had a domino effect and set the bar and sped negotiations up for all the other draftees. As opposed to the first pick having a long hold out that takes up all of training camp like the last couple of years.It's all good though, they will sign and we will fine. Your sig is hilarious! :laugh: I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoRnAndRaiSedSkinsFan Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I have no doubt they will sign before training camp. I think these guys want to come in, get a starting role, and make an impact. They know the best way to do that is in training camp. The longer they hold out the less chance they have to start early. As soon as one signs, I imagine the others will soon follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area51 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Given Snyder's previous history, I'm pretty sure we won't have any trouble signing second rounders. The only one that I see who may be a problem is Devin Thomas, because Cerrato said that they were going to take him at 21 if not for the trade down. I'm surprised that the GMs/Coaches around the league haven't yet learned to not say **** like that after seeing what happened with the Browns with Quinn, the Cardinals with Leinart and I think also the Saints with Reggie ("I'm going to be the biggest bust in draft history") Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Errr, Bush already better than Ryan Leaf ever was. As for the OP, now that the bar has been set, I expect to see several more 2nd round picks sign in the next few days. We should have everyone done by training camp. If we dont, and they are not in camp, then we can start to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 we've got 6 guys unsigned but at least it's not a 1st rounder..... I'm not worried with less than 2 weeks to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 the word of the day is "relax" its a legitimate question though. I mean, likely they're not going to hold out, but this thread is better than most of the **** that's been up here in the past..oh 6 months or so :laugh: To the OP, you should relax a bit b/c everyone has participated in OTA's and been working out and showing up at Redskins Park for work outs etc. I don't think there's going to be any issues w/ the rookies. Think the FO is holding out to sign them to see if Favre would be interested in a job? :paranoid: HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Zornography Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Your sig is hilarious! :laugh: I think. It's really not. I am just slow and am having a hard time getting it to show. Hahaha. Your sig is great, however. Veddy veddy niiiiiice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 This was already discussed, and it's still on the front page. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250850 Your search-fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 They'll get them in there before camp. Don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Draft picks always wait until the first on signs. They set a bar based on last years contract for the same draft slot with a percentage raise. Second rounders have nearly zippo in leverage. They will sign within the next month. Not signing a contract and holding out of camp are two completely different monsters. I have heard nothing about a possible holdout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Even more than the 2nd round picks, I'm wondering about our third rounders, as well as a few sixth round picks that haven't signed yet. Wonder what the holdup is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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