Stophovr6 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Yes he really is injury prone. In 4 NFL seasons he has missed over 30 games due to injuries. In that time he has had hip, knee, and ankle injuries. No reason to waste money on a guy that has no chance of staying healthy. He hasn't a played a full NFL season yet in his career. No reason to expect him to be able to do it now. No he hasn't. stop posting misinformtaion. Just because he didn't start a game doesn't mean he didn't play. He has been active in three seasons with the Seahawks and has missed 15 games. He has played in 33. Please don't post if you don't know how to interpret stats. http://www.nfl.com/players/d.j.hackett/profile?id=HAC504279 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posse87 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 We don't have a fourth rounder this year. No thanks to your scenario. Let's build through the draft and leave the headcases and underachievers for others. Like Vinny said, the best FA's and trades we've brought in have been coached previously by one of our current coaches. So unless Hall and Williams have been coached by someone on the redskins staff, no thanks. Hackett, fine. We do have our 4th this year, its next year we lose our 4th. See http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2988171 As to the rest of your comment, I said I could do without Hall, he has a loud mouth, but for a first or second rounder getting a 24 year old top level talent corner who will only get better as he matures is debatable As far as Roy Williams is concerned, he is no headcase. He has missed some time due to injury, but is one of the best WR's in the NFL and only 24 years old. He would be a steal for next years second and a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 We do have our 4th this year, its next year we lose our 4th. See http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2988171 As to the rest of your comment, I said I could do without Hall, he has a loud mouth, but for a first or second rounder getting a 24 year old top level talent corner who will only get better as he matures is debatable As far as Roy Williams is concerned, he is no headcase. He has missed some time due to injury, but is one of the best WR's in the NFL and only 24 years old. He would be a steal for next years second and a no brainer. You're right about our 4th next year because of the Kendall trade, but we lost our 4th this year because of TJ Duckett.... and boy let me tell you, those 6 wonderful carries that he got were so worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 We do have our 4th this year, its next year we lose our 4th. See http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2988171 As to the rest of your comment, I said I could do without Hall, he has a loud mouth, but for a first or second rounder getting a 24 year old top level talent corner who will only get better as he matures is debatable As far as Roy Williams is concerned, he is no headcase. He has missed some time due to injury, but is one of the best WR's in the NFL and only 24 years old. He would be a steal for next years second and a no brainer. I'm pretty sure we lost the 4th thanks to the Duckett trade. I don't think Williams is a headcase. But I'm not really willing to give up that much for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 No he hasn't. stop posting misinformtaion. Just because he didn't start a game doesn't mean he didn't play. He has been active in three seasons with the Seahawks and has missed 15 games. He has played in 33. Please don't post if you don't know how to interpret stats. http://www.nfl.com/players/d.j.hackett/profile?id=HAC504279 And I think it's safe to say he is injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 And I think it's safe to say he is injury prone. Sure is. But let's not exagerate facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I would be happy with DJ...he is solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 but for sanity's sake, lets just say he is injury prone so that way we save ourselves trouble in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo2173 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Yes he really is injury prone. In 4 NFL seasons he has missed over 30 games due to injuries. In that time he has had hip, knee, and ankle injuries. No reason to waste money on a guy that has no chance of staying healthy. He hasn't a played a full NFL season yet in his career. No reason to expect him to be able to do it now. well i stand corrected. i was under the impression last years high ankle sprain was his only serious injury. still a good pick up for the right price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Sure is. But let's not exagerate facts. I'm not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posse87 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I'm pretty sure we lost the 4th thanks to the Duckett trade. I don't think Williams is a headcase. But I'm not really willing to give up that much for him. What would you set the odds at that we draft a player any player with next years second rounder and he turns out to be an equal or better player than Roy Williams? I would put those odds at under 5%. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuels Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 He defintely had the injury bug this year but in everygame he played he put up outstanding numbers. And he roasted us in our playoff loss he was just to physical for our cb's. He is defintely somebody i would gamble on if the price is'nt terrible, if healthy he is a very solid starter he could put up 60 catches pretty easily. I'd rather sign him then draft any Wr in rd1 thats for sure. I also think he would impact this team more then any rookie. I'd like Reche to return has well i think he can be a very good possesion guy with opportunitys just like in SD. With Hackett,Moss,EL and Caldwell i'd feel very good about our wr corps next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I'm very happy that this visit is finally happening. This guy is a playmaker when he's healthy, and he already knows the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommishDC Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Hackett tore us up in the playoff game! BUT, I think he is injury prone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINS FAN #56 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 "Sure Dan, I'll come to Redskins Park for a visit". Cha ching, momma im gunna get paid...lol Pretty much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sens11 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 He's worth a look and if the price is right...so be it. There's nothing to get excited about with this. He would a servicable receiver that knows our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSmartQb#8 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 No he hasn't. stop posting misinformtaion. Just because he didn't start a game doesn't mean he didn't play. He has been active in three seasons with the Seahawks and has missed 15 games. He has played in 33. Please don't post if you don't know how to interpret stats. http://www.nfl.com/players/d.j.hackett/profile?id=HAC504279 What are you talking about?? The reason that he was inactive during the entire 2004 season was because of a hip injury. That's 16 games that he missed just in 2004 because of an inury. Hackett missed 10 full games with a pair of ankle sprains, and was limited in four other games because of the injuries. This is nothing new. Hackett spent his rookie season on injured reserve and also missed two games with injuries in 2006. http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/archives/132960.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINS FAN #56 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 We're about to get rewarded for our wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I'm thinking it's pretty much a lock that we'll sign him. Anyone else get that feeling?Since Zorn already has 4 years with the guy, I think it's a matter of feeling out $$ and seeing whether Hackett likes it here and is nice to the position coach. Wouldn't hurt to have our doc check him out either. But I got that same feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 What are you talking about?? The reason that he was inactive during the entire 2004 season was because of a hip injury. That's 16 games that he missed just in 2004 because of an inury. http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/archives/132960.asp correct. but the next 2 years, he was healthy. last year, he had a high ankle sprain which lingered all year, as they do. i would be more concerned if he had a recurring injury or a degenerative condition. thrash had this same injury with the same results last year, and i wouldnt say hes injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I wonder if he comes in on Redskins One or they fedex him a Greyhound ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 What are you talking about?? The reason that he was inactive during the entire 2004 season was because of a hip injury. That's 16 games that he missed just in 2004 because of an inury. http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/archives/132960.asp He was inactive for 2004 with a sports hernia that required surgery. It was also his rookie season as a mid-round draft pick on a team with a good amount of talent at WR anyway, so it's not like he was at the front of the line to play to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 DISCLAIMER: I have only read the first 2 pages I'll need to catch up...also I don't know if this has been covered ad nausea um. Let's play guess that contract!I'm gonna say 4 years, $15M with a $5M signing bonus. _ http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4974558#post4974558 Maybe right now Hackett wants something along the lines of 4 yrs / 20 mil. Maybe the FO is willing to do something like 3 yrs / 9 mil. max. Perhaps the two sides are at negotiation with the low offer being 2 years 5 mil (small commitment) and the high offer being 4 years 12 mil (more commitment and more money) Perhaps Hackett has said he will not take anything less than 15 million with 7 as guaranteed. ...who knows??????? Also you would have to know how much money (roughly) the #21 pick will ask for. For example if it's a WR then we have to figure on last year's numbers for an idea (now this is just concerning plain money...not overall player ability or intangibles or anything else)...last year's numbers will give you the framework by which this player and his agent will be pushing in negotiations. So last year KC picked Dwayne Bowe at #23 ... close enough for comparison at #21. He got a 5 year deal worth 9 mil. (so it says here): http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=4184 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Bowe (The Above quote) was something I wrote in another thread. At the time I compared what Hackett may be trying to negotiate in comparison with a likely contract offered to a WR drafted at #21. Now I do understand that Hackett may not garner the same money as a #21 draft pick, nor do I think that the Redskins will pick a WR at #21...I just offered that as the parameters for a particular debate about contract price. _ I think 4 years 10 mil to 12 mil would be a reasonable contract. But a 3 years 6 mil to 7.5 mil deal would be more advantageous. I don't even know if it's possible or probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 No he hasn't. stop posting misinformtaion. Just because he didn't start a game doesn't mean he didn't play. He has been active in three seasons with the Seahawks and has missed 15 games. He has played in 33. Please don't post if you don't know how to interpret stats. http://www.nfl.com/players/d.j.hackett/profile?id=HAC504279 Just because he played in games when he was still banged up doesn't mean he produced. Santana has played in games where he was far from 100%, same with El, Springs, etc and you can generally tell because their production goes down. They lose a step or two, and are missing certain aspects of their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4ever1 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 ATTENTION Walmart shopers. We want a cheap WR that plays only half a season. This signing gets my huices going. How will we posibly pry him away from all the teams lined up to sign him? Drink the kool aid boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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