Riggo-toni Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Campbell seemed capable of eating up chunks of yardage with his stronger arm, but struggled trying to thread the needle in tight spots. Also, it seems like EVERY friggin time we get a first inside the 15, we're handing off to Portis on the first play. I think Collins may have a tougher time putting together long drives, but I think we'll get more touchdowns once we get down the field. The Red Zone has been our dead zone all year. Could our fortunes be changing? :gaintsuck :gaintsuck :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan4life Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I really think we will try to RUN the ball more this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgraham Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Hopefully B/c We Will Need Tds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGreenistheBest Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I think red zone production will be much improved for the remainder of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 This is the argument I love to participate in. This entire season we escape our mentality and start going Jumbo once inside the 30. It has happened and we usually use only cooley and moss as our only two weapons. But Dallas and Tampa were the only 2 games that we went shotgun 4 WRs inside the redzone. We never do that in any other situation but we ask Campbell to deliver for us. Yes he should be able to figure it out but because we never do it, how do you expect him to succeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderMustGo Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 how do you expect him to succeed? Because he is a first round draft pick in his 3rd year that we invested 3 high draft picks on. That how I can expect him to be excute a simple red zone offense. Funny how Derek Anderson never had a lot of exposure but he came in and did just fine in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Because he is a first round draft pick in his 3rd year that we invested 3 high draft picks on.That how I can expect him to be excute a simple red zone offense. Funny how Derek Anderson never had a lot of exposure but he came in and did just fine in the red zone. Yes, but when u never do it and with the type of personnel we have, what do you expect? Moss plays outside of the hashes, cooley cant get jump balls. Our receiving corps is god aweful and we have to rely on the oldest player in the NFL to be our possession receiver in the middle of the field. Now thats sad.. Reptition breeds success and we hardly do that. Derek Anderson is being put in a position to succedd. There is no limiting the offense there. Oh btw, his weapons are Braylon, Joe J and KWII. Those 3 are better than anyone who we have on our receiving and that includes Cooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Well if it really does snow, I don't think it is gonna much matter. Expect heavy doses of Portis and Betts. But I'm not even close to being sold on Collins. Yah he looked great last week, but it is tough to do that every week in the NFL. This is too good to be true, unfortunately. Also, the Giants will be able to gameplan Collins. If I'm a D Coordinator I don't even respect Collins' deep ball. The Bears stayed in a cover 2 shell for much of the game, which I seriously doubt that the Giants will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Derek Anderson is being put in a position to succedd. There is no limiting the offense there. Oh btw, his weapons are Braylon, Joe J and KWII. Those 3 are better than anyone who we have on our receiving and that includes Cooley yah, and we saw how effective those weapons were before Andersen took the snaps With almost no exceptions, the QB makes the weapon, not vice-versa. At least in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbiggs Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Todd won't get confused like JC did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abu69 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 fellas, isn't this Campbell conversation being had in about 15 other current threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 yah, and we saw how effective those weapons were before Andersen took the snaps With almost no exceptions, the QB makes the weapon, not vice-versa. At least in the NFL. Oh Ya, KWII 2007 69 catches 943 yds 5td 2006 89 catches 875 yds 3 tds Winslow was effective but now he is averaging more yds and more tds. He still did better than cooley last year Braylon Edwards 2007 65 catches 1106 yds 13Tds 2006 61 catches 884 yds Still pretty effective for a god aweful browns team that went what 3-13. How many catches did santana moss or ARE get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebster21 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I would love to see Mix get a couple of touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Oh Ya, Randy Moss on line 2. He wants to talk to you And BTW... Edwards will most likely go to the pro bowl this year. Considering he's already blown away LY's numbers with 3 games to go doesn't do much for your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Randy Moss on line 2. He wants to talk to youAnd BTW... Edwards will most likely go to the pro bowl this year. Considering he's already blown away LY's numbers with 3 games to go doesn't do much for your argument. Edwards is already better than Moss. It is not even funny. No **** a better Qb leads to better numbers but unlike us, they are not afraid to run schemes inside the redzone while we go JUMBO. Do you see how many great catches BE has made this year and Winslow it is not even funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Edwards is already better than Moss. No argument from me there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I disagree Campbell had a hard time fitting balls in tight spots my only hope is that Collins' better timing within the system will equal greater red zone success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I disagree Campbell had a hard time fitting balls in tight spots Thats what u need to do in the redzone but i forget he did that with Thrash 2x in Phily game But we need some play makers for WRs, big body that go thru the middle and catch jump balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 If the OLine can play agressive enough to be productive in the run game and give CP some holes to run through, then that would give TC some play-action choices.....where he seemed to look good doing it. And play action in the redzone is what we need to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbnva Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I really think we will try to RUN the ball more this game. I think we will play like how saunders did in KC. I do not think we will see the Gibbs RUN first and alot gameplan this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 yah, and we saw how effective those weapons were before Andersen took the snaps With almost no exceptions, the QB makes the weapon, not vice-versa. At least in the NFL. Great point. Charlie Frye had the same receivers and couldn't do crap with them. What's even more impressive is that this is the first year in the offense for all of those guys AND Anderson had to share preseason snaps with both Frye and Brady Quinn whereas Jason took every single snap in his 2nd year in the offense. In his defense though, Jason has not had healthy receivers. It's hard to develop consistency in the red zone if your receivers keep changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 just fine, thank you/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Weather will probably dictate more running in the game and redzone. Be prepared for a low scoring, field goal game. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan48 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 i hope better than its been. if not we have no chance to win this game. If we convert in the redzone against the Gnats then we will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor21 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Todd will execute better than JC does in the redzone because he has a lot more experience in the league despite lack of playing time, they don't call him Saunder's Rain Man for nothing, he has full grasp of saunders offense. BUT with more experience JC is our future and hopefully he will click on all cylinders, never give up, it's only been 1 freaking season, patience is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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