method man Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Let me preface this by saying I am not usually a fan of signing big-name FAs. However, I do believe you spend big bucks only for QBs, DEs, LTs, and CBs. Asante Samuel is going to be FA after this year and will not be franchise-tagged after he accepted it this year (the Pats promised they wouldn't do it again). Thus, he will come with no strings attached. He is probably going to get Nate Clements money (8 years 80 mil with a huge SB). I feel he is certainly worth it. He is a top 3 corner right now and is right behind Champ and Nnamdi Asomugha. I know hte history of former Pats sucking in other systems, but Asante just seems to have those instincts like when to jump routes and such that will make him elite in any system. Something we really need is a playmaker at CB and Asante is a proven pick-machine. With Springs gone next season and uncertainy about how Rogers is going to return from his injury, I think making Asante the one big-name signing is a smart move. We need a no. 1 corner and a gimpy Rogers and past-his-prime Smoot do not cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 How old is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djotroy17 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Id love to get him. But can we afford it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins4ever Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Asante Samuel is great. I give him that. But I doubt if we will sign him. We have Smoot and Rogers and we're committed to Springs. More than anything, his asking price is too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what_would_joe_gibbs_do Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 id rather give our 3rd or less for dhall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 No way. The guy you throw big money at is already on our roster. cough*taylor*cough I really think the Skins are going to stick to the draft this time around sans maybe a Briggs or some other young, experienced LB signing for $10-15 Mil up front. Other than that, stick to the draft and build from within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 No way.The guy you throw big money at is already on our roster. cough*taylor*cough I really think the Skins are going to stick to the draft this time around sans maybe a Briggs or some other young, experienced LB signing for $10-15 Mil up front. Other than that, stick to the draft and build from within. Why would we bring in Briggs??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 id rather give our 3rd or less for dhall Agreed. He's younger, comes with a smaller price tag, and still has loads of talent. Go for a DE and big possession WR in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 I'd be up for throwing big money at both Samuel and Taylor. Letting Brunell go is one way to afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchdown Redskins Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I would love to build through the draft, and there are some CBs in this draft that could turn into a #1 CB given time. I say we spend money on Jarred Allen from KC instead of a CB, then we can fill our needs on options that aren't crapshoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Agreed. He's younger, comes with a smaller price tag, and still has loads of talent.Go for a DE and big possession WR in the draft. DHall sucks. He is very overrated. Asante is a proven guy and he is only 26. It's not as if he is some geezer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 I would love to build through the draft, and there are some CBs in this draft that could turn into a #1 CB given time. I say we spend money on Jarred Allen from KC instead of a CB, then we can fill our needs on options that aren't crapshoots. Dude, CB is a greater crapshoot than DE in the draft in recent years, especially a no. 1 CB. So many end up being average or slightly above-average. I'd rather spend the money at a premium position like CB and draft DL's. And do you know how much money Allen is going to cost??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 lock up Taylor first, if the money is right and it is just in signing bonus then maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 DHall sucks. He is very overrated. Asante is a proven guy and he is only 26. It's not as if he is some geezer. DHall sucks? He's been in 2 pro bowls in the last 3 seasons. Besides, he's on the Falcons. What do you think the chances are that he's just fitting into an excellent system? I think it's possible that you could say that of Samuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchdown Redskins Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dude, CB is a greater crapshoot than DE in the draft in recent years, especially a no. 1 CB. So many end up being average or slightly above-average. I'd rather spend the money at a premium position like CB and draft DL's. And do you know how much money Allen is going to cost??? There are a lot of DEs that are as big busts as CB. Consider Courtney Brown or Mario Williams, who both got picked #1 overall. Usually, the best CB in the draft is not as big a crapshoot as the best DE. In any case, I'd rather pay money to Allen than Samuel because he has proven he can get to the QB, and that's exactly what we need. When Asante Samuel leads the league in sacks, then let's throw money at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Why would we bring in Briggs??? Marcus appears to be on the decline and we could use a pass rushing Linebacker. He's been banged up an aweful lot and from what I saw today, he shouldn't have been playing. Fighting through injury and performing well (see Moss, Santana) is one thing but dragging your body around like he did today really worried me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 There are a lot of DEs that are as big busts as CB. Consider Courtney Brown or Mario Williams, who both got picked #1 overall. Usually, the best CB in the draft is not as big a crapshoot as the best DE. In any case, I'd rather pay money to Allen than Samuel because he has proven he can get to the QB, and that's exactly what we need. When Asante Samuel leads the league in sacks, then let's throw money at him. Allen will be franchise-tagged. You willing to give up 2 1st's and a big contract for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 The great thing about Samuel is that there are no strings attached to him. WIth every other good corner on the market, you will have to give up picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 We simply cannot afford him, we HAVE to resign Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 DHall sucks? He's been in 2 pro bowls in the last 3 seasons. Besides, he's on the Falcons. What do you think the chances are that he's just fitting into an excellent system? I think it's possible that you could say that of Samuel. He's a big name. There have been numerous times that he has gotten toasted by good WRs (most notably Chad Johnson). I'd say that Springs is probably better than him. Hall also has character issues that I am wary of after Lloyd. Would I rather have Samuel and my 3rd round pick that would be used for DL or DHall? The answer is easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 The great thing about Samuel is that there are no strings attached to him. WIth every other good corner on the market, you will have to give up picks. I think this team is going to get another decent year out of Shawn Springs and Rogers will be back next year so CB isn't a pressing need. Until then drafting another CB wouldn't be a bad idea, just not in the first round. I actually wouldn't mind Samuel as Springs potential repacement, but not at the opportunity cost attached to one Sean Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 We simply cannot afford him, we HAVE to resign Taylor. I see us letting go many of the vets on our team on the decline like Brunell, Springs, Daniels, and, maybe, Griff. This should clear enough cap space so that we can both resign Taylor and sign one big name guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchdown Redskins Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Allen will be franchise-tagged. You willing to give up 2 1st's and a big contract for him? Good point. I would not give up this much for him, although I think he is worth the big contract, especially given the flexibility it allows us in the draft. In any case, we need to address either DE or CB in free agency, because there are not enough good players to fill all the voids we do have (especially since we clearly need help at WR and OL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 I think this team is going to get another decent year out of Shawn Springs and Rogers will be back next year so CB isn't a pressing need. Until then drafting another CB wouldn't be a bad idea, just not in the first round.I actually wouldn't mind Samuel as Springs potential repacement, but not at the opportunity cost attached to one Sean Taylor. Springs is going to be let go. Many Redskins insider sources have said so. He has too high of a cap hit for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Good point. I would not give up this much for him, although I think he is worth the big contract, especially given the flexibility it allows us in the draft. In any case, we need to address either DE or CB in free agency, because there are not enough good players to fill all the voids we do have (especially since we clearly need help at WR and OL). I agree with you. We need to bring in an elite guy at one of these two positions. I am leaning toward Samuel because: 1) there are no strings attached pick-wise and 2) this draft will be ripe in DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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