HitStickTaylor21 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Two bombs, one decision. Who do you think? My vote goes for Lloyd, but a case can be made for each. Lloyd: Acquired for a 3rd AND 4th round pick. Signed to a large extension that has not seen any returns. Still hasn't caught a TD pass in a regular season game for us. Does not have any real value attracting other teams to acquire him and so he remains on the team eating up salary cap space, roster space, and is probably a detriment to the team in the locker room. Archuleta: Acquired as a FA. Signed to the richest contract a safety has ever signed in the history of the NFL. The wrong fit for this defensive scheme, he was reduced to a special teams role after just a handful of games. The fact that he didn't pan out here forced us into drafting LaRon Landry. Don't get me wrong, I love the pick and am incredibly happy he is here, but if Archuleta was what we hoped he would be, we'd probably have a defensive linemen in development here or could have traded back and picked up more draft picks. However, after his one year here, he restructured his contract and was traded to the Bears. We received a 6th round pick for him and his salary cap hit will be off our roster after this year. Both are busts here, but at least we got something for Archuleta and his huge cap number won't be around for long. Lloyd seems to have long term effects. He's not seeing the field, will probably be cut and will be on the salary cap for several years. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 LLoyd . at least archuleta played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 the Lloser, no contest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 lloyd, we foisted AA on the bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 To quote Peon Sanders, "Both". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinFan63 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Two bombs, one decision. Who do you think?My vote goes for Lloyd, but a case can be made for each. Lloyd: Acquired for a 3rd AND 4th round pick. Signed to a large extension that has not seen any returns. Still hasn't caught a TD pass in a regular season game for us. Does not have any real value attracting other teams to acquire him and so he remains on the team eating up salary cap space, roster space, and is probably a detriment to the team in the locker room. Archuleta: Acquired as a FA. Signed to the richest contract a safety has ever signed in the history of the NFL. The wrong fit for this defensive scheme, he was reduced to a special teams role after just a handful of games. The fact that he didn't pan out here forced us into drafting LaRon Landry. Don't get me wrong, I love the pick and am incredibly happy he is here, but if Archuleta was what we hoped he would be, we'd probably have a defensive linemen in development here or could have traded back and picked up more draft picks. However, after his one year here, he restructured his contract and was traded to the Bears. We received a 6th round pick for him and his salary cap hit will be off our roster after this year. Both are busts here, but at least we got something for Archuleta and his huge cap number won't be around for long. Lloyd seems to have long term effects. He's not seeing the field, will probably be cut and will be on the salary cap for several years. Your thoughts? Lloyd, because he's still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin4ever Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Definitely Lloyd. We gave up picks to get him. Although, we don't know how to use our non first round picks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Lloyd...he cost us draft choices that could've been used to help us out...not to mention the cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinaz Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 loyed by far cause we still have tha jack***** arch we got rid of and quite wasting time the o just seems wast time with players and cant just let them go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Arch was a disaster, but Lloyd takes the cake. At least we didn't give up two draft picks for Arch, and we even got a pick back for him from the Bears. We couldn't trade Lloyd for a case of genital warts at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I'd rather think about some of the Redskins better moves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 loyed by far cause we still have tha jack***** arch we got rid of and quite wasting time the o just seems wast time with players and cant just let them go Don't they speak English in Arizona? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgun88 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Thats an obvious answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Garcia Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Who cares I am just worried about the players that are playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber9 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Lloyd, I lost all confidence in general management when he was signed, I don't know how they could have been so blind as not to have seen his weaknesses, I live in SF and watched him with the 49ers and always saw that he was an erratic underachiever, hated going over the middle, did not block, ran lousy routes, dropped easy passes. They seemed to be blinded by the highlight reel showing a few spectacular catches, anyone who watched him consistently knew he was hit or miss for any given game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief skin Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 NEITHER the decision by Richie Rich that him and his LAP DOG VINNY can run a front office, (GM decisions) is the root of all the losing and excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozmikbuffalo Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Lloyd is more of a threat than Thrash, and he still doesn't get any play time. Why the hell did we trade away 2 picks and all that cash to sit a guy?? Makes even less sense than Gibbs game plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Skins Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 At first glance I say AA. But after looking into everything and what we gave up for Lloyd, I definitely have to go with Lloyd. Even though AA made it close with that "anonymous" paper that a writer released with him as the source Lloyd is more of a threat than Thrash, and he still doesn't get any play time. Why the hell did we trade away 2 picks and all that cash to sit a guy?? Makes even less sense than Gibbs game plans. Also I would like to add that we do not see everthing. There have been many sources saying that Lloyd is a locker room virus. We do not see this. And character is important to JG and staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 It has to be Arch. Our Defense went from top 10 to bottom 2 with his addittion. What has happened to Chicago's defense since picking up Arch? THey have become terrible. Arch is terrible for his team. Lloyd merely is a waste of $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Arch....hands down there was no need to waste that much money. ryan clark and sean taylor worked well together, throw the money clark's way and address a bigger need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfarmboy47 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 are u guys serious? arch was horriable and honestly i dont think llyod is bad he just never gets playin time or never has a chance to prove himself worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoth Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Lloyd. Archuletta had never shown attitude problems like Lloyd, and everyone knew he sucked somewhat at what Williams asked him to do coverage wise. Lloyd was a cancer in SF, with known character issues. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter23 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Archuletta hurt the team, Lloyd doesn't (I haven't heard anything about him being a locker room cancer or anything like that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 are u guys serious? arch was horriable and honestly i dont think llyod is bad he just never gets playin time or never has a chance to prove himself worthy Yeah, Lloyd's awesome. That's why teams will be lining up to trade for him after the season's over. We'll probably get a couple first rounders for him. We'll pretty much be able to name our price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I haven't heard anything about him being a locker room cancer or anything like that Ok. Then you haven't been paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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