Eagles_Legendz Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Since KC Joyner seems quite popular around here, his breakdown of WRs seems relevant since it includes NFCE players: http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/columns/story?columnist=joyner_kc&id=2908843 Underrated wide receivers Terry Glenn Terrell Owens gets the most press in Dallas, but the metrics indicate Glenn was the better receiver in 2006, and it wasn't even close. Glenn had the third-best overall YPA, the ninth-best bomb pass YPA and the seventh-best medium pass YPA. Contrast that with Owens' ranking in overall YPA (40th), bomb pass YPA (37th) and medium pass YPA (34th), and it is clear Glenn is the more consistent and explosive receiver. Owens is still a productive player, as evidenced by his 13 touchdowns, but Glenn is the far more reliable receiver. Reggie Brown Donte Stallworth (who left via free agency) and Kevin Curtis (who signed with the Eagles) have received most of the attention in Philadelphia this offseason, but if the 2006 metrics are any indication, the breakout receiver could be Brown. He ranked 12th in the league with a 9.6 YPA last year, putting him in the company of Reggie Wayne and Darrell Jackson. He also ranked in the top 22 in bomb and deep pass YPA and had the sixth-highest medium pass YPA. Opposing defenses might be paying a lot of attention to Curtis this season, and Brown's metrics indicate he could make them pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 They both suck. I'm just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I hate to say it but I think the iggles got a pretty good player out of brown. Was he drafted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yes, with the pick they received from Miami for AJ Feeley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apickmans Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 who is the other overrated WR besides Driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Brown has looked real good since he came into the league... it looks like he will be the focal point at the wr position this year, so it just remains to be seen if he can step up into that role. Terri Glenn is scared of Taylor so he can be good the other 14 games if he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Brown is a solid #2 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Brown has looked real good since he came into the league... it looks like he will be the focal point at the wr position this year, so it just remains to be seen if he can step up into that role.Terri Glenn is scared of Taylor so he can be good the other 14 games if he wants What's the over-under on number of games missed by Terri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockeryfan Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Terry Glenn I like. Reggie Brown I like less. Eagles receivers have a tendency to look better than they are. I thought Greg Lewis was going to be a good receiver for them. All he turned out to be was below average. Reggie >>Lewis, but still. Not a huge fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 In his career, Terry Glenn has looked amazing under Parcells...and putrid under anyone else. I don't know if Phillips can keep his motor running. Brown is developing well...unfortunately. Whether he becomes the consistent go to WR the Ea-girls so desparately covet remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFan Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 What's the over-under on number of games missed by Terri? Still on that kick eh? Well here is a nice little tidbit for you. Since 2002 he has missed 11 games. 10 of those were at one time because of a ligament tear in his foot. In case you're going to play that soft coach card, you might consider that of the seasons where he missed 4 seasons that he missed 6 or more games, only two of them were with a "soft coach" (Caroll). That is unless you consider Belichek soft. Since 1999 he's had two seasons under 14 games. One for the injury mentioned above, and the other where he was suspended, benched, and doing everything he could to get traded off NE. The guy had some issues early on but he seems to have turned the corner. TheFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRomoProBowl Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 What's the over-under on number of games missed by Terri? 4. And for a bonus, he will miss less games then both Springs and Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1028046 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 KC Joyner is a joke his metrics mean nothing if you go year by year. He never factors offensive system nor does he factor the play around the player. Calling Torry Holt overrated is completely stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 who is the other overrated WR besides Driver? Chambers, Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Torry Holt, and Greg Jennings. Underrated= Glenn, Brown, DJ Hackett, Santonio Holmes, Bryant Johnson, and Mark Clayton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 4.And for a bonus, he will miss less games then both Springs and Moss. I'll say 6 - just to argue. If Landry or Taylor get a good shot on him - 10 Although I do worry about Moss' hammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRomoProBowl Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I'll say 6 - just to argue. If Landry or Taylor get a good shot on him - 10 Although I do worry about Moss' hammy. after my own research on this, my 4 game over/under makes sense, but i am off base on Springs and Moss... Glenn has played in his career in 77% of the games which would translate to 3.68 games missed this season (77% X 16 games) But Springs was at 82% for his carreer and Moss 84%. So i will withdraw my comment for a bonus to miss less games then both Moss and Springs...although as you said, Moss already has a hammy issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Torry Holt? Really? Eh!?!? He has one off year. That doesn't make him overated, it makes him prime for a comeback. He was secretly injured as well, but KC's "metrics" don't take into account those kind of things. Sadly, neither does his analysis. The other thing that his "metrics" never take into account is run-blocking, which ironically is the most underated characteristic of a truly great WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 His metrics are flawed... utter nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRomoProBowl Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 His metrics are flawed... utter nonsense :laugh: thats right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 after my own research on this, my 4 game over/under makes sense, but i am off base on Springs and Moss...Glenn has played in his career in 77% of the games which would translate to 3.68 games missed this season (77% X 16 games) But Springs was at 82% for his carreer and Moss 84%. So i will withdraw my comment for a bonus to miss less games then both Moss and Springs...although as you said, Moss already has a hammy issue. Nah, I don't think so, so you're wrong I think Terri Glenn will literally have his face ripped off by Landry and Taylor. Forcing him to miss 8 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 He said Driver was overrated? He's underrated if anything. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 The other thing that his "metrics" never take into account is run-blocking' date=' which ironically is the most underated characteristic of a truly great WR.[/quote'] Good point, Reggie Brown is a tremendous blocking WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 She? It really remains to be seen if She can do well without another coach besides Parcells. Injuries aside, he doesn't fare well without Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNabbOwnsFedEx Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 In his career, Terry Glenn has looked amazing under Parcells...and putrid under anyone else. I don't know if Phillips can keep his motor running.Brown is developing well...unfortunately. Whether he becomes the consistent go to WR the Ea-girls so desparately covet remains to be seen. So desperately covet? :laugh: We had the #2 offense in the nfl last season, did you think we had a "go-to" WR then? It's the WCO people, spread the ball around, no go to guy, keep the D off balance. This isn't rocket science and we aren't in the days of Thrash and Pinkston anymore. The Eagles offense is going to roll this year and if your skins want to beat us you better be putting up 25+ points because that's what it's going to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 So desperately covet? :laugh: We had the #2 offense in the nfl last season, did you think we had a "go-to" WR then? It's the WCO people, spread the ball around, no go to guy, keep the D off balance. This isn't rocket science and we aren't in the days of Thrash and Pinkston anymore. The Eagles offense is going to roll this year and if your skins want to beat us you better be putting up 25+ points because that's what it's going to take. Yeah b.c these performances stay consistent from year to year...Westbrook will stay healthy for 16 games again...Kolb will produce like Garcia, should McNabb go down...again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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