Tomahawk Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 Patrick Ramsey will be a good Quarterback, but he will never get a good shot to prove himself without good blocking. That is why I think that our first pick in the 2003 Draft should be an offensive lineman. Do you guys agree? Does anybody know of any offensive lineman that is worth picking in the first round of 2003 and has the potential to be picked by us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomahawk Posted December 13, 2002 Author Share Posted December 13, 2002 I just wanted to add one more thing, we need to think of it this way, what made no name quarterbacks like Doug Williams and Mark Rypien great, the answer is awesome blocking like the "Hogs", think of rebuilding something similiar, look at the Rams, Warner would be a nobody if they did not have awesome blocking! I just thought I'd mention this, what do you think? Agree, disagree,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 1st 2 picks on the OL. I am happy with the DL as it is, re-sign Gardner, rotate Smith and L. Jackson and I say were OK there. But if we get an OL with Samuals and Janson, then add two more draft picks, we'll be set for consevibly 10 years if this work out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 I'd actually prefer to use the second pick on an O-lineman, but the first pick on a DE, preferably someone who has has shown strong ability to pressure and sack the quarterback. I think that this is something that we have been really missing for two years. Jackson shows some promise in this, but otherwise, we really don't have anyone who has been really good at getting to the quarterback. Smith still can get pressures, but often fails to finish him off and is a liability against the run. BD we hear may be cut, but he also is better at run d and pressure than reaching the qb. Gardener similar, and Wynn is a run specialist, he rarely gets to the qb. We need d linemen that are a threat, especially if we like to zone as much as the current regime does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 1st Round pick should be a DL or Bets Player Available. But I think the 1st pick will be a WR & Miami WR Andre Johnson makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Y Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 1st pick should be on a WR. Good WR's are too hard to come by in free agency. We need alot of speed. We can always pick a lineman later in the draft, or get one out of free agency. I don't think that it takes a dominant lineman to make a dominant line. Denver proved that when they won their Superbowls. They had the smallest line in the league, but they worked together as a unit. Helped each other out and they were a dominant group. It just takes a group of guys that are clicking together as a group to get it done. Our guys just need to get on the same page, and the only way that they can do that is by keeping most of them together year in and year out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 I'm thinking our first pick will be . . . traded down. I could live with a WR as the first pick. Maybe even a QB. (Maybe Werfeul can be #2, though. And backup QBs don't have to be first round). But, mostly, on draft day, I'll be counting the linemen. (I tried to count the linemen at last year's draft, but. . . ) (I'd be willing to count TEs and LBs as "linemen"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway66 Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 KENNEDY DT from PENN STATE we are weak on the def. front too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 If Roy Williams is on the board we take him (WR Texas). If not we look at McDougal (DE Miami) or Boss Bailey (S UGA). Then take the guard from Hawaii with the second round pick. I put Bailey in the mix because we need safety help, but also it will make renogotiating with Champ easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 Our first pick should fill an area of need we haven't addressed in free agency prior to that time. I believe we'll make a run at a receiver or two and perhaps an offensive lineman or two. If we've signed Hilliard and Collins in early free agency, we'd be smart to draft where we really need young players and that is on the defensive line. I'd spend the first day drafting defensive lineman and hope one becomes a star and that'd be a successful day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 I'm torn between Aundray Bruce and Brian Bosworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 Originally posted by Larry I could live with a WR as the first pick. Maybe even a QB. (Maybe Werfeul can be #2, though. And backup QBs don't have to be first round). Why a QB??? I can't EVER see a rationale for drafting a QB in the first round two years in a row. Personally, if we draft a QB at all I hope it's not until the 6th round or so. For example, I don't want Ramsey looking over his shoulder and seeing Spurrier's boy Grossman warming up. Ramsey needs a chance to develop without Rex waiting in the wings to take his job. But taking a QB in the first round? I can't see how that makes any sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 We're going to have a top ten pick. With a lot of teams wanting in on the top qb's, I think the Skins will have a good opportunity to trade down into the middle of the first round. We need youth at the D-line. Bruce will not be coming back and neither will Wilky I fear. Unless there's a real world beater d-lineman available that someone right behind us will take, I say we trade down and get an extra #2 or #3 we can use on OG and safeties. I think drafting a wr in the first round is a mistake, unless Rodgers falls in our laps. Gardner is ahead of where we thought he would be and McCants and Thompson have proven to be competent. With Cliff Russel in the wings, our wr corps is young and talented. Sure, a blue chiper would be nice to add to that mix, but there are needs much greater that need to be addressed, primarily on the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 The supposed best DE is 6'3 255 lbs so I cant see us picking another L Jackson type. Good WRs are a dime a dozen. Its the great ones you look for and unless we are in the top 8 forgetaboutit. For the past 3 yrs we went the we can get an O lineman later on and we have failed. All NFL teams now know the importance of a solid interior line and took steps of locking up the good ones in season so dont expect some healthy young road grater to be found in free agency and at KMart prices. Hopefully we will have a smashmouth defense to offset the finesse offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsThug Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 We're only picking WRs and QBs this draft -- that's what the ol ball coach wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 Pick either DE/LB Terrell Suggs or a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins57 Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 I would like to get a Dlinemen or Oline butI think we will go WR and if it is a speed guy, I owuld be happy. But is it possible we might go after Peerless and use the first rounder on oline after a few trade downs?....I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Could'a, Would'a, Should'a Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 So... lineman then? you already have 2 franchise tackles so you'd want to take a guard with your first pick? a guard? You lot will probably be drafting 7-12 range, so youd better trade down to the 25th otherwise you'll be getting ripped.off royaly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Could'a, Would'a, Should'a Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 To expand on my point a little, In my opinion the Skins have a serious lack of star talent, id put Champ, Lavar, Samuels, Jansen & Trotter in the group, id have put Davis in there but hes about to get cut... You have nodoby in skill positions like QB, HB, WR & DE. When your drafting in the top 10 you want a 12 year franchise player not trade down for a guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoDrill Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 I'll go out on a limb and say our 1st pick will be: Mike Doss, S, Ohio State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 We can't know who falls where until it happens but if they draft around 10th - 12th it needs to be a player worthy of a big contract that can contribute right away. I would not draft a guard this high but Jerome McDougle DE, Miami or William Joseph, DT, Miami would both represent terrific value for the Redskins where they are currently projected to pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 At this point, it appears we'll be picking somewhere from 7-10. That gives us a lot of flexibility. We can trade down with ease (there's always...always...always...teams looking to move up). I liked the first round philosophy last year - Snyder wanted one of the 'Big Four' defensive linemen or Dontae Stallworth and as soon as they were off the board, the trading down began. I love the concept, but I didn't care for many of the guys we took afterwards. Still, the idea is great. Identify those few players you think a) can make a difference and will be worth a huge contract. Today, I see Charles Rogers, Carson Palmer, and Willis McGahee in that group. Maybe I add Roy Williams and Bryon Leftwich. I could be wrong, but I don't think we're going QB. So if we traded that #8 pick down to a #24-27, I'd want at least a second rounder, a 3rd-4th rounder this year and maybe a 2004 6th rounder in exhange. That'd give us a low first, a pretty high second, a low second, a high third, two fourth rounders and a sixth and seventh. I believe I'd try to devote that low second rounder and third rounder to the offensive line. For most of the others, I'll look at BAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 I'm with Carl. Make a short list of 3 or 4 players you really, really want and need at the top of the first round -- the real superstars. That would probably include one WR, a couple of DTs, a RB, even a QB. If they fall to us, consider it a steal. If they don't fall to us, trade down to get more picks. Use those picks to fill holes on the OL. There just isn't much help coming in FA at OG, so we need to find some nasty, brutal, young OGs to step in. They'll all disappear in the late first/early second, so it'd be great to be sitting there with two picks waiting for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 Trading down also saves the team a heavy contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted December 13, 2002 Share Posted December 13, 2002 I feel 2 of our fisrt three picks should be Dline with the other being Oline. Next I want to see the team spend its 4th on Neagle the kicker and its sixth on a punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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