shagman Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I dont know if Russia would nuke Isreal but seeing how China and Russia are trading partners with Iran, I wouldnt be suprised if they were pissed. Not to mention the close proximity to their border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons. My guess is that every nation with a strike force big enough to handle this type of thing has similar contingency plans. Does this mean that they will ever be used? Of course not, what it does mean is that they plan for every scenario so when the time comes it can be put into action, immediately. One must remember that our government pays people to sit in rooms and think of scary scenarios and then plan for them, that doesn't mean that all of these plans will be put into action, it just means that they are pre-planned. Although with Israel, ya never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I dont know if Russia would nuke Isreal but seeing how China and Russia are trading partners with Iran, I wouldnt be suprised if they were pissed. Not to mention the close proximity to their border. Im sure your smarter than all of us, but I would suggest you look at a map here soon and come back and correct your statement so you can maintain your smarter than the rest of us visage. as a bonus, shagman your a douche bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Don't forget the Hendrix I am SO not spending my post-apocalyptic days listening to Hendrix! Ugh. I'll bring my own MP3 player and like 10,000 batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Kinda makes me want to move to NC. I don't really feel like being next door to the nerve center of our country, AKA prime target #1... Part of the benefits of living in rural Kentucky, unless of course they want to destroy the US tobacco industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagman Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I didnt say that it was on the border with Russia- I did however say that it has a close proximity. Maybe you should check the map out for yourself Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 israel is looking like the terrorist not iran Oh, yeah, right. So how many times has Israel called for the elimination of Iran? Or called for them to be pushed into the sea? Whatever!:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Considering their power and situation, Israel exercises a tremendous amount of restraint. If by restraint you mean being held back, hand-cuffed and otherwise shackled by US diplomacy...then yeah they show restraint. Trust me, if it weren't for US involvement over there then Israel would be striking whoever, and whenever they wished. It is US and Western involvment that has kept the Middle East from tearing itself to shreds. Why? Here's a hint.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagman Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 shagman your a douche bag. I prefer #$%hole but thats cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 If by restraint you mean being held back, hand-cuffed and otherwise shackled by US diplomacy...then yeah they show restraint. Trust me, if it weren't for US involvement over there then Israel would be striking whoever, and whenever they wished. It is US and Western involvment that has kept the Middle East from tearing itself to shreds. Why? Here's a hint.... Wrong again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 If Israel uses a nuke to nuke the nukes; they will be wiped off the face of the earth. Russia will nuke Israel. Then we will launch our nukes.Israel uses a nuke- Iran's allies that have nukes-- will respond for them. It actually took you time to type this out.. It wasnt a slip of the tongue thay you later took back.. quite amazing.. So your saying if Israel using nuclear tipped missles to get to the nuclear plants... Russia will launch a nuclear attack on the entire population and the United States will retaliate with a strike against the Russia that will cause an all out nuclear strike.. You didnt put much thought into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Israel is trying to blackmail the US into taking action sooner. That is the only explanation for this article if it has any truth to it. If they were ACTUALLY planning on doing it, instead of using it as propaganda it wouldn't have been leaked to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Israel is trying to blackmail the US into taking action sooner. That is the only explanation for this article if it has any truth to it.If they were ACTUALLY planning on doing it, instead of using it as propaganda it wouldn't have been leaked to the public. You're getting smarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blighty Skins Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 You're getting smarter. No he isn't... ..if it has any truth to it. The Times lies all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oisn1 Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 The Israelis better not use Nuclear bombs because that would open up a whole can of worms. If they use them to pre-emptively stike a nation, there are going to be a whole bunch of other nations in the middle east clamoring to get their hands on nukes. More importantly, that will change international relations big time. Now nations will claim to have the right to use nuclear weapons to first strike other nations. Consider this situation, Israel has stated they will pre-emptively strike Iran because of security reasons. But if Iran gets nukes before them, can they not claim to pre-empitvely strike Israel, considering that Israel has vowed to strike them? The "first strike" game gets very dangerous and I hope no country ever decides to use nukes to gain the "first strike" advantage. After the US nuked Japan, the world saw how useless nukes actually were. If another country were to use them, that would make other states more willing to use them, to garner more international attention. I like how everybody says they would support this plan (and that's all I think it will ever be) but they never think of the consequences. Maybe you guys don't understand that Israel will be wiped off the map if they were to use nukes in the Middle East. Right now, terrorism is the policy of extremist factions, not a united effort. If a Middle East nation were nuked, every single Arab nation would fight Israel. Say what you want, but Israel cannot stand to that might. As much as one could argue the past, things would be different considering the desperation that the Arab nations would have. More important to the conflict would be the support (i.e. from the US) they would lose. The UN and other nations have been pretty lax about criticizing the US for vetoing every sanction or action against Israel. If the US were to not sanction or actively stop Israel after using the nukes, the US would be further disgraced and hated, and even punished. *This is only likely if the tactical nukes have "accidental" civilian casualties, and considering Israel attack policy, it is a legitimate concern" Americans just need to consider one thing; Israeli planes will need to fly over Iraqi airspace to attack Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blighty Skins Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 The Israelis better not use Nuclear bombs because that would open up a whole can of worms. If they use them to pre-emptively stike a nation, there are going to be a whole bunch of other nations in the middle east clamoring to get their hands on nukes. More importantly, that will change international relations big time. Now nations will claim to have the right to use nuclear weapons to first strike other nations. Consider this situation, Israel has stated they will pre-emptively strike Iran because of security reasons. But if Iran gets nukes before them, can they not claim to pre-empitvely strike Israel, considering that Israel has vowed to strike them? The "first strike" game gets very dangerous and I hope no country ever decides to use nukes to gain the "first strike" advantage. After the US nuked Japan, the world saw how useless nukes actually were. If another country were to use them, that would make other states more willing to use them, to garner more international attention. I like how everybody says they would support this plan (and that's all I think it will ever be) but they never think of the consequences. Maybe you guys don't understand that Israel will be wiped off the map if they were to use nukes in the Middle East. Right now, terrorism is the policy of extremist factions, not a united effort. If a Middle East nation were nuked, every single Arab nation would fight Israel. Say what you want, but Israel cannot stand to that might. As much as one could argue the past, things would be different considering the desperation that the Arab nations would have. More important to the conflict would be the support (i.e. from the US) they would lose. The UN and other nations have been pretty lax about criticizing the US for vetoing every sanction or action against Israel. If the US were to not sanction or actively stop Israel after using the nukes, the US would be further disgraced and hated, and even punished. *This is only likely if the tactical nukes have "accidental" civilian casualties, and considering Israel attack policy, it is a legitimate concern" Americans just need to consider one thing; Israeli planes will need to fly over Iraqi airspace to attack Iran. Wow...and you're only 17? I'm impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drockvb Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Kinda makes me want to move to NC. I don't really feel like being next door to the nerve center of our country, AKA prime target #1... if DC is prime target no.1. Then tidewater is no.2. Just move closer to the S.C. border. N.C. will get fallout. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 If Israel uses a nuke to nuke the nukes; they will be wiped off the face of the earth. Russia will nuke Israel. Then we will launch our nukes.Israel uses a nuke- Iran's allies that have nukes-- will respond for them. What allies??? This is the second time I've seen Russia mentioned as an ally of Iran don't know where that is coming from as the emphatically are not allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 What allies??? This is the second time I've seen Russia mentioned as an ally of Iran don't know where that is coming from as the emphatically are not allies. Yep,Iran has clients and suppliers but they are a little light in the ally department. You could count Syria,N Korea, good ol Chavez and a few other minor actors as allies. Problem for Iran is you dry up the honey pot and their allies will sit it out. This is nothing but a contingency plan (probably leaked )to apply addition pressure to resolve the issue. The major powers in the ME have more to fear from Israel making a strike than Israel itself. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKYNYRD Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Kinda makes me want to move to NC. I don't really feel like being next door to the nerve center of our country, AKA prime target #1... It's no different here. We've got Fort Bragg, Pope AFB, Camp Legeune, Sunny Point (Military weapons ocean terminal), numerous nuclear plants...No place to hide when you start lightin' those things off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 You should be ashamed of yourself. Your grasp of logic is much like Tony Romo sits to pee's grasp on footballs. You would make Vince Young look like a genius if you took the Wonderlic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 You would make Vince Young look like a genius if you took the Wonderlic. You have all the mental fortitude of Mike Vanderjagt. (note to mods, I'm just doing it because its funny, not because I'm trolling SoCal... and yes, it is VERY funny). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 You should be ashamed of yourself. Your grasp of logic is much like Tony Romo sits to pee's grasp on footballs. :laugh: ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Israel should bait Iran and use conventional arms to attack Iran's nuke facilities first. The Iranians will prob be stupid enough to respond with Chemical/Biological weapons in response. If that happens Israel would have justification to use tactical nukes on Iranian nuclear processing plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 If Israel uses WMD first. It will be the beginning of the end of Israel. Give them another few years; and Israel as we know it today will be no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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