Mr_ Skinshead Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 wow your a genious......IF there is anything this franchise is not lacking....its ****ing confidence. And we all know it's ****ing confidence that wins championships. The team may have all the confidence in the world, but what good is is it if the coaching staff doesn't have the balls to exercise it? Today's coaching exhibition is one of the poorest in the history of the team. I challenge the board to site an example of a such a loss by another coaching staff wherein the players so dominated the opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Then man up. Stop crying. Make a valid point. Until then get the extra cushion tissue. And protest until your blue in the face nobody cares. This team was hammered with injuries from the draw. The only thing that Gibbs has failed on is the clock management. Ill give you that. All my points have been valid. All you do is tell people to stop crying. Take your own advice. And, as I said, please stop responding to my posts you're wasting my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILBOMB9 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Blind loyalty is the reason we're in this mess. You choose to propogate it, I choose to protest it. I root for the skins, always have, and always will. But I will not sit idly by and mute myself in the face of ineptitude. If you choose to do that, be my guest. But if you aren't going to complain about the ineptidude, don't whine when others do. Please don't ever respond to one of my posts again.WOW!!! Now that was beeeeeeautifully said!!! I COMPLETELY understand the loyalty and passion for the Redskins, but making excuses and turning your head at this PATHETIC DISASTER we put on the field is only helping Snyder, who needs to be the FIRST to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 what kind of message does it send to the players when gibbs won't go for it on 4th down on those two instances? It's gutless. The team is 4-8..........FOUR and EIGHT. Go for it on freakin' fourth down! Gibbs gets more and more ridiculous as the season, and his second tenure, moves along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I actually agree. Gibbs inherited what was an insane defense in 2004. He has dismantled it over the past 3 years. The offense hasn't gotten any better. He still has no idea what he's doing as far as play-calling and time management, even after 3 years. And his personnel decisions have been horrendous. This team is worse than it was when we got here. Oh, and he force fed us a losing QB in Mark Brunell for 3 years. The man was physically and mentally incapable of running our offense. I have NO FAITH in joe gibbs. Worse off then when Spurrier left? You have a very short memory my friend. Every single move Spurrier made for us was a complete bust. Nada, nothing, zilch, we sucked, we weren't competitive and we had nothing to show for it. His drafts were horrendous, he gave away draft picks for old injury prone RFA's and bad players that we had no business going after. He gutted our team and then ruined it. Randy Thomas and drafting Dockery/Rock were the only moves that worked out for us. As for the thread, I would say that Spurrier's tenure set us back 5 years, and we're only 3 years after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CardMonte Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 why would we draft Ware he isnt nearly as good as Merriman who was on the board when Dallas drafted Ware. Your an Idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Worse off then when Spurrier left? You have a very short memory my friend. Every single move Spurrier made for us was a complete bust. Nada, nothing, zilch, we sucked, we weren't competitive and we had nothing to show for it. His drafts were horrendous, he gave away draft picks for old injury prone RFA's and bad players that we had no business going after. He gutted our team and then ruined it. Randy Thomas and drafting Dockery/Rock were the only moves that worked out for us. As for the thread, I would say that Spurrier's tenure set us back 5 years, and we're only 3 years after him. I wouldn't go that far. Spurrier was definitely worse. But in the 3 years since his departure, I really don't feel that we're much better than we were when he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I wouldn't go that far. Spurrier was definitely worse. But in the 3 years since his departure, I really don't feel that we're much better than we were when he left. Then you either werent watching or dont know bad football that can be fixed (now) from a coach that didnt even know some of his players names. You may be a little young to remember so im sorry if I was a little hard on you earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southskinsfan Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Man I am so much smarter since I read this. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Don't you have to be forward before you can go back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huly Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 If you go back and take a hard look at what Gibbs inhereted in 04 and look at the team today - we are in much worse shape! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Yeah we are worse than we were in 2004 that is why we went to the playoffs last year. what kind of message does it send to the players when gibbs won't go for it on 4th down on those two instances? It's gutless. The team is 4-8..........FOUR and EIGHT. Go for it on freakin' fourth down! Gibbs gets more and more ridiculous as the season, and his second tenure, moves along. Who calls the plays? If memory serves me right it is Saunders not Gibbs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark84 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 The 2 4th down calls we did get points out of. That did not hurt us. The playcalling inside of the 3 yard line with 1st and goal really hurt. We should have punched that in. That is playcalling, something Mr. Saunders does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 why would we draft Ware he isnt nearly as good as Merriman who was on the board when Dallas drafted Ware. Your an Idiot! Your right we should have drafted Merriman, but you do agree we are idiots for drafting Rodgers. THANK YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Giving up on a CB in his second year is something idiots do.... not to mention drafting players who do not fit your system both Ware and Merriman play in the 3-4 we are a 4-3 team and we could have been a 4-3 team trying to compromise round a bone head pick with a gapping hole in the secondary.... But yes we should stop giving away draft picks for old players (Brunell - one example - kind of struggling for others) And oh my god yes we are so much worse than we were 5 years ago ...where were you last year ...oh yes telling us all about your man crush on Demacus Ware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Giving up on a CB in his second year is something idiots do.... not to mention drafting players who do not fit your system both Ware and Merriman play in the 3-4 we are a 4-3 team and we could have been a 4-3 team trying to compromise round a bone head pick with a gapping hole in the secondary....But yes we should stop giving away draft picks for old players (Brunell - one example - kind of struggling for others) And oh my god yes we are so much worse than we were 5 years ago ...where were you last year ...oh yes telling us all about your man crush on Demacus Ware don't think I specifically mention giving away picks for old players - giving away draft picks for any reason is a bad idea. I will include giving away picks for Campbell. One other thing, being forced to draft Rodgers because we traded the most difficult position in the NFL to fill, shut down corner (Champ) for Portis was also very stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
computerclone Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 That's exactly how I feel hitter! How old are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 It's funny to read these Gibbs can't coach anymore threads. That he's over the hill and the game has passed him by. You know why? Because the same things were being said about Dick Vermeil in his third year with the Rams and alot of Pokes fans were saying the same about Parcells last season. Those two took some time to figure things out, Gibbs can do it too. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantor Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Mr Gibbs tenure has set this franchise back 5yrs! I agree in that he made a terrible mistake picking JC. It is quite apparent now that he is not the future. But then again, Gibbs believes he doesn't need a great QB in order to win. Look at who he's won with: Theisman, Williams and Ripien. All mediocre QBs, maybe he think JC is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I don't think it's possible in the NFL to set a team back more than about 1 year, no matter what happens. Too much free agency, too much parity, and not enough cohesion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staunton skin Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 You have to admit, Schotinheimer(butchered that spelling), would look pretty good right now. So I assume you would have been happier with Spurrier and friends?Gibbs has had a ton of work to do with this team. Regardless of their record this year, this team shows up week in and week out and competes. I'd take that any day over the Spurrier, Schottenheimer, Turner eras. By the way, when was the last time this team won a playoff game before last year? That's right, under Turner, the last coach hired by Jack Kent Cooke. This team is light years ahead of where it was in Spurrier's last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I agree in that he made a terrible mistake picking JC. . You can tell this after only 4 starts?? Please send me the winning Lotto picks Ms. Cleo.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Giving up on a CB in his second year is something idiots do.... not to mention drafting players who do not fit your system both Ware and Merriman play in the 3-4 we are a 4-3 team and we could have been a 4-3 team trying to compromise round a bone head pick with a gapping hole in the secondary....But yes we should stop giving away draft picks for old players (Brunell - one example - kind of struggling for others) And oh my god yes we are so much worse than we were 5 years ago ...where were you last year ...oh yes telling us all about your man crush on Demacus Ware A confirmed IDIOT is someone who trades away the games top shut down corner in his prime for a running back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 A confirmed IDIOT is someone who trades away the games top shut down corner in his prime for a running back! If you are referring to Roland "Champ" Bailey, he had to be traded. He wanted out and nothing we did would make him stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Are you kidding me? Thats the best you got! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Gibbs never even had a real conversation with CHAMP. First thing he did was trade for Portis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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