Burgold Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 This year has been really painful. I see it as a repeated mistake. It's the good intentions of 2000 all over again. In 2000, Snyder said to Turner, "Hey, we're close... what do you need." Turner answered and gave him exactly what he wanted. This offseason, Snyder went to Gibbs and said what do you need my checkbook is open... Playcalling razzle dazzle, playmaking receivers, a pass rusher or two. The checkbook opened and the team was beset once again with injuries and poor teamwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard86 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The 2000 team showed great promise in the first half, they were 6-2. They fell apart because of injuries to Johnson and Davis and Westbrook, and because generally sloppy play and inattention to details. This team is failing because injuries, but also because of big things like: having a defensive line that is really, really bad, and having a secondary that is equally bad, and linebackers that don't make plays in the event they can actually tackle someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The difference I see is that most of the additions that year were old and on their way out of the game for the most part. This year we added younger talent that should be around for a few years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 But it was also because Mark Carrier, Jeff George and Bruce Smith were miscalculations. THey looked good on paper, but were one dimentional on the field. Adam Archuletta is probably the easiest example. I will bet the biggest reason he was obtained was that he was the best blitzing saftey available. Isn't he #1 in sacks all time? So, they got a blitzing saftey with great measureables, figuring they could correct or hide his deficiencies, but now we have a great blitzer who's mostly being used in coverage and it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 No, not exactly the same, but similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyTeeth Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 2000 was mostly about Snyder hounding Turner to put Jeff George in the lineup over Brad Johnson. Our record was 6-3 when the switch was finally made, and we lost the next 3 out of 4 and Turner lost his job. The calls for QB change are obviously much more compelling in 2006, since we've had a losing record for a few weeks well before the midpoint of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I disagree. Say what you want about the long term impact of those signings but our D jumped from bad to #4. Sanders made game-winning/sealing plays and played well overall. He wasn't worth his pay and didn't match his rep but he was still very good overall. Smith THAT year was actually decent. The reason the team went downhill was the offense and problems with injuries and the kicking position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I disagree.Say what you want about the long term impact of those signings but our D jumped from bad to #4. Sanders made game-winning/sealing plays and played well overall. He wasn't worth his pay and didn't match his rep but he was still very good overall. Smith THAT year was actually decent. The reason the team went downhill was the offense and problems with injuries and the kicking position. This is accurate. I'd like to add that our HC/OC at the time did not seem capable of making in-game adjustments. His record in close games***understatement alert***was less than stellar. 3-27-1 IIRC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It's not 2000. That team was not "bad." It was just incredibly disappointing and had two major weaknesses at key positions: 1. QB. This was a self-made problem because Snyder was in love with Jeff George, and not Brad Johnson. 2. K. This was a combination of bad luck and bad planning. Once it became obvious that the team was not going to win the Super Bowl, that team just collapsed. The problem this year is that at least five major units on the team are underperforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I'll agree with most of the replies. At least in 2000 we recovered from an early 1-2 record to hit the halfway point at 6-2 and looking good. We fell apart after that, but at least that team gave us hope into November... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 This year absolutely blows 2000 out of the water in terms of disappointment. You think Norv would've lasted through 2-5 in 2000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM916 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 How were our special teams in 2000? That's our only soild performer this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldchampionfan Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I have thought this season reminds me of 2000 season also. Then I realize it actually reminds me more of the 2001 season. Started 0-5 won 5 to get to 5-5 finished season 8-8. Not that this year will finish that well, I for one do not see that. But I do feel alot like I did when we started season 0-5. That year , just like this year, I think " I did'nt think we would be a bad team, now I see we are a HORRIBLE team" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldchampionfan Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 How were our special teams in 2000? That's our only soild performer this year. Special teams includes field goal unit. We have not done well with field goals. Take yesterday, it would have probably stayed a closer game if we could just kick field goals. So in my opinion special teams have not been solid, they have been good at times. Also, most kickoffs don't even reach the end zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 No this one is a lot more painful to watch...these guys are not on the downside of their careers and this is not Norv Turner as the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofizz Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Each week this is getting more realistic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 The problem with the analogy is the 2000 team was pretty good, you can't say that about this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banks979 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Not to ditto... but this team is nowhere close to 6-2. In fact this team has been no where close in any of the 6 losses with the exception of Minnesota and Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Not even close. In 2000 we brought players in mainly to help our defense. Our defense went from 30 something to top 5 (for most of the season). People always talk about the 2000 season, but the players brought in (and new DC) helped more than they hurt. Our offense didn't play like it did (early in) the '99 season and we still had Norv as the coach, that's why the 2000 season failed. Not because of the players brought in. This season, the players brought in on offense should be able to help. They won't be able to however until we put in a QB that can get them the ball. We won't know if they're a bust or not until that happens. Based on that, it maybe a little too early to call for Saunders head (if he's really just calling the game based on Brunell's skill). On defense, I'm willing to give Carter more time, but yeah, Arc was one of those names brought in just because of his name.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedExFielder Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 This season is reminding me a lot of 2000 you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Actually if the 2000 team had a clutch kicker we might have been great that year. Missed FG's cost us a few games. This team just sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGift Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I remember threads here that were proclaiming the 06 Skins were going to be better than the 99-2000 Rams :laugh: :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8jacket Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I agree ECU this one is every bit as painful as Turners 3-13 season when the boo bags found their way onto the heads of fans in fed ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 I still say the analogy is very apt. The results may be different, but the motives that have brought us here are quite similar. Snyder asked Gibbs and Williams what their wishlists were. Gibbs said he need a couple of playmaker receivers. Check. Williams said he needed more pass rushers (Carter was chosen for that role. Archuletta was also. If you remember some preseason threads he is like the all time leader in sacks for a db) check. Right now, this team is playing like a team of mercenaries. They are fighting, but fighting without a tremendous lot of passion. There are also fighting like they have lost faith in their general. Yesterday, almost no one was fighting to make that extra special play with the exception of Randle El on offense and maybe Holdman on defense. It was actually nice to hear Holdman's name so often on positive plays. 2000 is a lesson we learned incompletely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I totally agree and was actually thinking that this morning. You make the playoffs, win a round with a really banged up team. We only needed 1 WR. Randel El. No need to trade a pick for Lloyd. I bet there was a halfway decent CB in the 3rd round who could be helping right now. well, think of it this way. How many jersey's has #85, #40 and #99 sold for Mr. Snyder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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