#98QBKiller Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I had honestly thought about it for a second, but there is no way I could make it work.That card is a little out of date as Cerrone has stepped in for Stout against Siver. Oops just noticed that. Yeah it's a big commitment if you're on the east coast but I'm pretty bummed about missing the local card here especially since there's a title fight on the card and the GSP/Diaz card looks amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuels Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) GSP hides an average chin behind tremendous speed, technique, and wrestling. Silva is one of the few fighters in the world that has figured out how to put tremendous power in a punch without sacrificing accuracy. Personally I don't think GSP could last long enough to set up a takedown 5 rounds in a row. Unless he's grown a stronger chin his usual speed game wouldn't be enough to save him from catching some of the hardest strikes in MMA. Bones Jones has a different advantage. He has the longest reach is UFC history. Consider this: Anderson Silva's reach is listed at 77.6 inches. As far as I can tell the only fight in the UFC he's had in which he had a reach disadvantage was against Thales Leites and that was by 0.4 inches. Bones Jones has a 84.5inch reach. Let's compare that to... the NBA? Kobe Bryant 83inches. GSP got rocked in one fight where he was in serious trouble and it was right on the ear which if you've sparred enough will know messes your equilibrium up bigtime if caught right. I would'nt say GSP has a weak chin at all based on 1 fight where in my opinion 1 bomb did him in and he never got his head back on straight. I've seen GSP get clipped enough to know he has a good chin that first BJ Penn fight he took a beating in round 1. Not only that but GSP is a far sharper and a much better fighter then he was a few years back. Anderson is a great striker the best in the game and downright ridiculus. But strong wrestlers will always be his weakness and right now GSP and Jones are great wrestlers with very good top game and submission defense. They way Jones just rag dolled Hammil and Bader was impressive to me beating them at there own game impressively. Edited August 30, 2011 by Samuels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC137#/fight Penn vs. Condit not listed on the fight card. Most likely heading to the Fox card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC137#/fightPenn vs. Condit not listed on the fight card. Most likely heading to the Fox card. Significantly weakens that card IMO, but as I and many others have said, that is the perfect fight for Fox. Edited August 30, 2011 by lovetoaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Nog's team celebrating his win: cBrbNvXNDyY Edited August 31, 2011 by d0ublestr0ker0ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Haha I was doing the same thing when he won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I wonder how bad Anderson would've hurt Okami had Nog lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I wonder how bad Anderson would've hurt Okami had Nog lost. Probably another Rich Franklin' facial landscaping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAIRBOSGfgU&feature=player_embedded This has potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Saw this on Sherdog, Lyoto Nogueira! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Tomorrow at 10am Dana will announce the fights on Fox. Starnes vs. Quarry II? Edited September 1, 2011 by d0ublestr0ker0ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Tomorrow at 10am Dana will announce the fights on Fox. Starnes vs. Quarry II? Arlovski vs. Werdum II for the co-main event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos for the Heavyweight Title on Fox. http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Velasquez-Dos-Santos-Title-Tilt-Headlines-UFC-on-Fox-1-35247 Edited September 2, 2011 by d0ublestr0ker0ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5pzULNY8I&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 This has potential. Bas Rutten is the man. I would love for him to play a major role in MMA media. ESPN needs to sign him the second they get serious about having MMA segments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos for the Heavyweight Title on Fox.http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Velasquez-Dos-Santos-Title-Tilt-Headlines-UFC-on-Fox-1-35247 I was hoping they would go this route, but never thought they would. Its the perfect fight for a network debut. Neither fighter is really a PPV draw yet, so you're not really hurting the company by giving it away for free. This fight will most likely turn the winner into a ppv draw, particularly if the fight is what we expect it will be. Its the best possible fight to be made right now in the HW division, and there's very little chance of it being a boring fight. I'm just praying they both have an injury free training camp. Bas Rutten is the man. I would love for him to play a major role in MMA media. ESPN needs to sign him the second they get serious about having MMA segments. He's great in Inside the MMA on HDNet. I wonder how much longer his contract lasts. I would love to see him on a bigger platform, he's funny as hell, but has the knowledge of the game as well. Edited September 2, 2011 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) I was hoping they would go this route, but never thought they would. Its the perfect fight for a network debut. Neither fighter is really a PPV draw yet, so you're not really hurting the company by giving it away for free. This fight will most likely turn the winner into a ppv draw, particularly if the fight is what we expect it will be. Its the best possible fight to be made right now in the HW division, and there's very little chance of it being a boring fight. I'm just praying they both have an injury free training camp. The heavyweight title itself will be the big draw. There are championship belts, then there's the heavyweight championship belt. They aren't doing it with big name fighters, or particularly savage fighters, they're doing it with the fight that determines the baddest man on the planet. People will want to see that. Who's fighting again? Doesn't matter, it's for the big boy's belt. The obvious side benefit to this is that Junior and Cain will both gain some popularity, but the belt is the hook, line and sinker to the fringe MMA fans. Edited September 2, 2011 by d0ublestr0ker0ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 JDS and Cain are also extremely easy to relate to for the a lot of people. Cain is young, Mexican (getting that Latino demographic really well), and he is the force that stopped Brock Lesnar and made him seem like a 4th grader in high school. JDS has that "nice guy" image that GSP has too, except not as exposed as GSP. He is also young since comparatively, 26 is still young in MMA. I'm bringing up their ages because these guys will be in the UFC for a while, so why not start the FOX deal with guys who the viewers will be following for the next decade. This is better than starting with established guys who may or may not be in the UFC in the next couple years. Plus, as everyone has said, both guys like to actually fight and throw down rather than fight to win (like GSP). Zuffa will be hyping this fight up showing Cain stopping Brock and the KOTN he had on Big Nog (which after Nog's win last weekend is pretty huge), and for JDS showing his KO of Gonzaga, the striking clinic he gave Roy Nelson, and the destruction of Carwin. IMO the easiest way to get someone into MMA is to show excellent striking and "badass" status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The heavyweight title itself will be the big draw. There are championship belts, then there's the heavyweight championship belt. They aren't doing it with big name fighters, or particularly savage fighters, they're doing it with the fight that determines the baddest man on the planet. People will want to see that.Who's fighting again? Doesn't matter, it's for the big boy's belt. The obvious side benefit to this is that Junior and Cain will both gain some popularity, but the belt is the hook, line and sinker to the fringe MMA fans. I get that many people see it that way but I don't. Heavyweight fights are usually far less appealing to me than most of the other weight classes. There is less talent in that weight class and the fighters are slower and seem to tire faster. In this case however where you have two guys around 240 that can really move I'm certain to be watching. Especially with JDS and his crazy accurate hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Heavyweight fights usually draw the most casual fans and that is what FOX cards are designed to do. Hook people in to convince them to buy the PPV card later in the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Heavyweight fights usually draw the most casual fans and that is what FOX cards are designed to do. Hook people in to convince them to buy the PPV card later in the month. Speaking of which, I wonder what fight will replace Cain vs. JDS on the ppv the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I get that many people see it that way but I don't. Heavyweight fights are usually far less appealing to me than most of the other weight classes. There is less talent in that weight class and the fighters are slower and seem to tire faster. In this case however where you have two guys around 240 that can really move I'm certain to be watching. Especially with JDS and his crazy accurate hands. Right but that's coming from you, a hardcore MMA fan. Like I said, people on the fringe hear "heavyweight championship of the world" and it flips on the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 That looked like Hughes/Newton except on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) Speaking of which, I wonder what fight will replace Cain vs. JDS on the ppv the following week. Maybe Hendo-Shogun? Mir-Overeem? Edited September 3, 2011 by lovetoaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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