good power rankings

[BLEED-B&G]

not a bad outlook, I honestly think it's a toss-up in the NFC I don't think it's entirely off base to see NY at the Top as I couldn't see it off base to see Seattle, Wash, or Dallas at the top at this point in the year. We haven't seen a single down of action yet and everything is entirely based off off-season moves.

Why is Dallas ahead of us? T.O. plain and simple most writers are on his balls and immediately send whichever team he plays for to the SB.

I definitely see Carolina and Tampa higher than they were ranked but it's hard to say how much higher at this point.

And let me say this, It is completely ridiculous for writer after writer to say "It's going to take another good year from Brunell for this team to be successful." Wow what a dramatic statement that's why you guys are paid the big bucks right. Are there any teams in the NFL that are going to succeed with bad play from the QB position...please. I can look outside and see the sun is shining I don't need someone to tell me.

[Passizle]

Too bad its NFC only.

[Abshir]

The more Hate the merrier, thats bulletin board fodder for us buddy !!! HTTR

We Shall Show and Prove !!!!

[Renegade7]

why isn't carolina in the top 3

Because they're not that good a team. They're a marginal team with a very talented superstar WR. Besides adding Keyshawn, I don't see how they improved their team. Their division, the NFC East, Seattle and Chicago will do it's part to put the panthers back in their place. I'm not on the powder-blue bandwagon, Tampa Bay is going to kill them.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

Wow. 4 outta the top 5 are in the NFC East...

Joke.

[Abshir]

1. Redskins

2. everyone else

You must be a Genius becuase thats my sentiments exactly.

Man I can't wait for the season to start already.

[blk_rshn]

I disagree. How did the Giants gain more?? Their secondary is still open like

7-11 and their interior DT are still weak to say the least. Yes they gained another WR in Moss but we have a great secondary that got alot stronger when we added Carter as our DE.

Seattle lost Hutchinson and Jervecious as well as their safety too. And if anyone thinks Alexander is going to be just as effective without Hutchinson then think again. Because he won't.

The only teams that are on our radar are the Panthers and Bucs. Everyone else is just wishing. Barring injury.

[Mania]

currently I feel the top 5 in the NFC are as follows:

1. Seattle Seahawks -- they deserve some respect

2. Washington Redskins -- the most improved going into 2007 in the NFC

3. Carolina -- They were an excellent team last year and improved over the offseason.

4. NY Giants -- They need to prove they can win away games before being ranked higher than 4.

5. Chicago -- Even though they didn't do much with the offense in the draft they are still a team to be reckoned with.

[BlueTalon]

Seattle lost Hutchinson and Jervecious as well as their safety too. And if anyone thinks Alexander is going to be just as effective without Hutchinson then think again. Because he won't.

The only teams that are on our radar are the Panthers and Bucs. Everyone else is just wishing. Barring injury.

I'm admittedly a homer, but I don't think losing Hutch and JJ will have the impact that many people seem to think. We got Nate Burleson, so call the loss of JJ a wash, or a slight drop-off if you prefer. Hutch is great, and will be replaced by someone who is merely very good, so it's very possible that Alexander will drop off from his last year's performance, down to a measly 1500 - 1700 yard season. But in the grand scheme of things, I believe that the upgrades in our defense will offset any drop-off in our offense.

I do find it interesting that so much attention is focused on the Seahawks losing Hutch, and virtually nothing is said about the Cowboys losing Larry Allen. Losing a ProBowl guard is either really important or it's not, and there seems to be a bit of inconsistancy there.

Regarding the rankings, I think Carolina needs to be ranked higher, and I don't see all four NFC East teams legitimately occupying the top five spots. But then, this is the offseason, and what the heck else is there to talk about?

[SkinsNumberOne]

Regarding the rankings, I think Carolina needs to be ranked higher, and I don't see all four NFC East teams legitimately occupying the top five spots. But then, this is the offseason, and what the heck else is there to talk about?

During the course of the season, it won't be like that. But part of the reason will probably be that those teams will be beating up on each other.

I have always disliked how the 49ers were the team of the 80s in that weak division, and we challenged them for that title (we were the second best team) and were coming out of the toughest division in football.

[BlueTalon]

It all goes in cycles. People (LOT'S of people) were commenting last year about the Seahawks being in an easy division, but in the preseason leading up to it, everyone was picking the Cardinals and the Rams to take it. Three or four years ago, the Redskins were one of the patsies in the NFC East (no offense), when everyone but the Eagles went 6-10. One could make the case that in that year, it was a weak division, and that the Eagles benefitted from it.

I kind of shrug my shoulders at that sort of stuff -- there's not a lot as a fan I can do about it.

[G-Prime]

I don't mind where the Redskins are placed but the rest of the list is just pure stupidity.

[SKINZFAN4EVER]

I disagree. How did the Giants gain more?? Their secondary is still open like

7-11 and their interior DT are still weak to say the least. Yes they gained another WR in Moss but we have a great secondary that got alot stronger when we added Carter as our DE.

Seattle lost Hutchinson and Jervecious as well as their safety too. And if anyone thinks Alexander is going to be just as effective without Hutchinson then think again. Because he won't.

The only teams that are on our radar are the Panthers and Bucs. Everyone else is just wishing. Barring injury.

THATS WHAT I AM SAYING; GIANTS 2nd'ary is suspect at best. LOst 2 runstoppers, and lets not even start on who the wish was SANTANA. Sinorice is fast, but ZERO numbers in college; what had like 3 TD's??

REDKSKINS FA moves far outweighs the moves in the rest of the NFC East~ SAUNDERS being the biggest!

[TD Riggo]

The G'aints and the Girls ahead of the Skins??!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doh:

If you want to put the G'aints at the top because they won the division last, then fine. However, Wiki Tiki had a fluke season last year, and last I checked, he isn't getting younger!

The Girls ahead of the Skins?! That's just silly! Besides, I think T.O. will be a distraction once again: .. new team, same old jackass!

[SkinsNumberOne]

It all goes in cycles. People (LOT'S of people) were commenting last year about the Seahawks being in an easy division, but in the preseason leading up to it, everyone was picking the Cardinals and the Rams to take it. Three or four years ago, the Redskins were one of the patsies in the NFC East (no offense), when everyone but the Eagles went 6-10. One could make the case that in that year, it was a weak division, and that the Eagles benefitted from it.

I kind of shrug my shoulders at that sort of stuff -- there's not a lot as a fan I can do about it.

That case would be a good one to me, because I agree that the division was pretty weak. It definitely does go through cycles, but - no offense - I wouldn't have called the NFC West tough last year before or during the season. People calling for other teams to take the division was probably a lack of respect for the Seahawks (although my recollection of the preseason last year was the usual "If Matt Hasselbeck.... expect a potential Super Bowl" - something I had grown weary of because it was somewhat annual... but Matt came through).

Regardless, I don't think the NFC East has the dominance of the 80s behind it, but I do think when you have 3 teams battling for a playoff spot, that should be a good indication of a certain amount of conference success (especially considering how the wildcard tiebreakers lie out). Dallas was in the race until the end. Next year with Philly resurgent and Donovan healthy, it's going to be hellish to be in that division.

That makes for a really fun and competitive regular season, but a much harder road to the postseason for all the teams in the NFC East, just like the old days. :2cents:

[BlueTalon]

That makes for a really fun and competitive regular season, but a much harder road to the postseason for all the teams in the NFC East, just like the old days. :2cents:

Eventually, the cycle will shift out west, too, and the Rams and Cards will actually live up to expectations. Eventually.

(And besides, we didn't ask to be put in that division!)

[Peregrine]

Dallas and the Giants got too much love at the expense of Carolina and Chicago. The bears have a defense that will keep them in every single game, and even win some for them. Lights out. The Panthers have been one of the best in the NFC the past 3 years(injury year the exception), and havent done anything to change that this offseason.

Meanwhile the Giants and Cowboys both have huge holes, and while they are playoff contendors, you cant put them up at the very top until they plug those holes or show they arent as big of a problem. The Cowboys have one of the most suspect offensive lines in the NFC, and lack any consistent running game. The Giants have a young unproven QB, and a defense that teams romp through to the endzone. Yes, both teams have a lot of talent, but with holes that those teams have, being in the top couple is out of the question.

[WeownU]

Somebody PLEASE give me some insight on where Dallas has the edge over us, because I honestly want a real answer. I don't care if you're a Dallas troll, just give me an argument. I'm really trying to take off my Redskin goggles, and I just don't see it.

Clint

Ok, you asked for it.

Bledsoe is better than Brunell. Only skins fans say otherwise. Granted Bledoe needs more protection than Brunell, but Bledsoe rarely throws at somebody's toes, unlike Brunell.

Dallas has better wideouts for their #1 and #2

Offensive lines will be very close. The edge will probably go to the skins

Running back. Skins.

Tight ends...Not even close. cowboys.

Defense. Last year our defenses were basically the same statistically. But we have so many young players, people think they will really come together this year after having a season under their belt. The only place on defense I can say you're better than us would be at the safety position. RW and ST are a wash. Archuleta vs ????? we dont' know yet. We got Pat Watkins in the draft who is supposed to be very good, but until he at least puts on a helmet, he's a question mark. Archuleta is way overrated, and anyone other than skins fans would tell you the same thing, but he is better than a guy who's never played in Watkins.

Special teams? Vandy hands down over hall

return specialist. ARE without question.

There. Thats my take on why most media outlets have us ranked higher. More importantly than the mediots though, are the Vegas odd, which are never biased. And we're favored there as well.

[Skins4481]

This is b.s. How in the hell are Cowboys even in the top 10? Other teams usually gotta win before they get some respect. I guess everyone's infatuation with Dallas gives them a pass. Its really getting annoying seeing those *******s always in the top of all rankings, even though they have done diddly squat the past TWO years.

[Skins4481]

Ok, you asked for it.

Bledsoe is better than Brunell. Only skins fans say otherwise. Granted Bledoe needs more protection than Brunell, but Bledsoe rarely throws at somebody's toes, unlike Brunell.

Dallas has better wideouts for their #1 and #2

Offensive lines will be very close. The edge will probably go to the skins

Running back. Skins.

Tight ends...Not even close. cowboys.

Defense. Last year our defenses were basically the same statistically. But we have so many young players, people think they will really come together this year after having a season under their belt. The only place on defense I can say you're better than us would be at the safety position. RW and ST are a wash. Archuleta vs ????? we dont' know yet. We got Pat Watkins in the draft who is supposed to be very good, but until he at least puts on a helmet, he's a question mark. Archuleta is way overrated, and anyone other than skins fans would tell you the same thing, but he is better than a guy who's never played in Watkins.

Special teams? Vandy hands down over hall

return specialist. ARE without question.

There. Thats my take on why most media outlets have us ranked higher. More importantly than the mediots though, are the Vegas odd, which are never biased. And we're favored there as well.

ummmm...idiota!

ST and RW are not a wash. ST can cover the likes of TO, R. Moss and Chad Johnson. RW cant even contain someone you refer to as a #3 receiver, Brandon Lloyd. I'll hold out making any comments on Archuleta before I see him play. From everything I have heard is that he was a beast his first 2-3 years but in the past couple of years has not played as well.

LOL Offensive line close? Not even! Stop smoking that crack! Our LT, RT, RG, C and LG are better than yours! Thats NOT CLOSE!

Tight Ends...LMFAO @ Dallas! You guys have Witten and we have Cooley. I'll say thats a wash. After that, we have a proven veteran in Fauria and you have a rookie who hasnt played a down yet in the NFL.

Defense? Easy. Redskins. End of story get over it.

Special Teams...Kicking - you guys. Returning - us.

And I'm sick and tired of all you Cowboy fans drooling over a 5th round pick(Watkins). There is a reason the guy went that late, you know. I dont know why is it so hard for you Cowboy fans to comprehend this. Saying that Archuleta might not be as good as him is just ridiculous!

Quit dreaming and wake up!

P.S. Last week I went to Cowboyszone.com and there was a thread that this one dude was asking what were RW's and ST's Madden ratings coming out of college. Why did he want to know this? He wanted to know what ratings to give 5th round future superstar Pat Watkins! :doh: LOL! YOU CRACKHEADS!:laugh:

:dallasuck

[Gusthecat]

The Giants have a young unproven QB, and a defense that teams romp through to the endzone. Yes, both teams have a lot of talent, but with holes that those teams have, being in the top couple is out of the question.

That's one "unproven QB" I wouldn't mind having.:gaintsuck

[Cambl2Moss]

maybe change the title to "Crappy power rankings" and you wont confuse so many people

[JMUGator19]

the Saints Cards and Lions are going to be a force... as of right now, id pic them over the Bears thats for sure...

[robotfire]

Ok, you asked for it.

Bledsoe is better than Brunell. Only skins fans say otherwise. Granted Bledoe needs more protection than Brunell, but Bledsoe rarely throws at somebody's toes, unlike Brunell.

Dallas has better wideouts for their #1 and #2

Offensive lines will be very close. The edge will probably go to the skins

Running back. Skins.

Tight ends...Not even close. cowboys.

Defense. Last year our defenses were basically the same statistically. But we have so many young players, people think they will really come together this year after having a season under their belt. The only place on defense I can say you're better than us would be at the safety position. RW and ST are a wash. Archuleta vs ????? we dont' know yet. We got Pat Watkins in the draft who is supposed to be very good, but until he at least puts on a helmet, he's a question mark. Archuleta is way overrated, and anyone other than skins fans would tell you the same thing, but he is better than a guy who's never played in Watkins.

Special teams? Vandy hands down over hall

return specialist. ARE without question.

There. Thats my take on why most media outlets have us ranked higher. More importantly than the mediots though, are the Vegas odd, which are never biased. And we're favored there as well.

A:

Thank you for breaking it down like that.

B:

Quarterbacks: I give the edge to Brunell because of his ability to make plays when it REALLY counted, but Bledsoe did have about 500 more yards under his belt (and more playing time/a more pass-oriented team, but whatever). So let's just say the QBs are equal for the sake of trying to resolve this.

Brunell: 23 TDs, 10 interceptions. 85.9 passer rating.

Bledsoe: 23 TDs, 17 interceptions. 83.7 passer rating.

Receivers: Maybe a better 1-2 combo, but we've got a better 3-4. I personally would rather have Moss than TO, but there's a case for saying TO is better. Granted, that case is made based on having McNabb throw to him, but we'll see what he can really do with Bledsoe. Lloyd is not as good as Glenn, but Randel El and Patten are two great 3 and 4 receivers. We upgraded at receiver better than you guys did (You lost Keyshaun, gained TO. We gained Lloyd and Randel El). Keep in mind that you already had two serious threats last year. Now we have two serious threats as well.

Offensive line: a key factor for both teams, obviously, but probably a bigger factor for the Cowboys. Bledsoe is very immobile. If they can keep their lines healthy and avoid the blitz, they might be okay.

Running backs: yeah, Skins.

Tight Ends: Not even close? Really?

Jason Witten: 66 catches for 757 yards, 6 TDs

Chris Cooley: 71 catches for 774 yards, 7 TDs

Remember when 3 of those Cooley TDs were scored against Dallas?

Your move.

Clint

Edit:

I forgot defenses, special teams, and return specialist:

Defense: Redskins were ranked 9th, Dallas was ranked 10th. I think it's too hard to rate what defenses will do. Both teams have reasons to believe that things will improve.

Dallas: the reasons you listed above

Redskins: Adam Archuleta, Andre Carter (VERY needed), the emergence of Carlos Rogers as a seriously good cornerback.

Special Teams: Vanderjagt. He's very good.

Return Specialist: Randel El. He's very good.

[btfoom]

Too bad its NFC only.

You asked for it:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9442718

They have us ranked behind the Cardinals, THE FREAKIN' CARDINALS?!?!?!?!?!?