Thirtyfive2seven Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I thought this deserved its own thread. I was just thinking about how Mark Brunell is getting older and a lot of us here and in the organization realize that he doesn't have very many seasons left. So I have to ask this question. When does the window close on the Skins getting back to the Super Bowl? Say we make it to the playoffs this year and lose. Can MB endure another season? And if not, how long will it take Jason Campbell to be ready. I feel that the windows closes after this season unless MB can play one more year. What are your thoughts? :helmet: Edit: I just think that with all the recent additions to both offense and defense in addition to Al Saunders, that this team is poised to make a run this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F Landry Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I think most inexperienced quarterbacks are surrounded with mediocre talent, and that cannot be said for Jason Campbell. After this year, or maybe even this year (if Brunell gets injured), Campbell could take us to the playoffs. He has the talent around him... :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 If Campbell turns into a franchise QB the window will be open for years to come and with Danny as our owner I believe he will keep us consistantly competitive, no matter what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 this year is the year, probably brunell's last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskns21 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 My guess is that we have at most 2 more years with Mark Brunell at the helm. I'd then expect a dip in production at that spot in Campbell's first year as the starter but as others have said, there is enough talent around him to make even a mediocre season a competitive one. I'd bet that Campbell's second season as the starter would open up the window yet again being that the majority of the skill position players on offense are young and locked up long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 If Campbell is the QB we think he is, the window wont close. Rothlisberger has only been in the league a few years, so obviously its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glikster04 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 In a sense, you can almost compare Campbell's situation to Ben Roethlisberger's situation in pittsburgh. Ben Roethlisberger: 1) Noone expected him to be as good as he is as a leader. 2) He got thrown in and did what was necessary to win ball games: He protected the ball. 3) Bill Cowher directed the offense in a way that if Roethlisberger protected the ball and completed high probability passes, he would be successful. Jason Campbell: 1) He has a year of experience and is a natural leader. 2) He quite possibly could be thrown into a game if Brunell gets hurt. 3) Gibbs isn't dumb - he won't have him throwing 70% of the time. As long as Campbell doesn't make many mental mistakes, then he can be a winner. So, as you saw with the Steelers last year, they won the SB with a very young QB, with talent around him the way we have talent around JC. Campbell is capable of leading this team to a championship if he is able to play smart. Noone is going to ask him to make huge plays, but to make the simple ones consistently. So in answer to the when the window closes, its not going to close for a long time b/c with Portis, Moss, Cooley et all, and the defense which can win games on its own (See Tampa Bay). Thus, we will be in the playoffs, but winning in the playoffs will fall onto Campbell's shoulders. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 When did the window close after Joey T? Doug Williams? Remember Mark R, the 6th round draft pick? The door doesn't close with Gibbs - the Redskins are not predicated on the super QB. (In fact, I think Gibbs distains that concept.) It is not a matter of the QB, it is a matter of team play. A knowledgable OT, a strong RB, threat at the WR and TE/H-back, a defense that knows their responsibilities - this is the Gibbs way! Joe will change the game plan to match the strengths of his QB. The window never closes - sometimes we just don't get enough W's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 wow, that was a really good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNatsFan Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I think people are underestimating Collins. I am looking forward to seeing him play in the pre-season, along with Campbell of course. He could be a solid stop gap between Brunell and Campbell if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I am not sure. It really all depends on Campbell. If he ends up playing well in the preseason and looking pretty good, we might not have to wait long for him to take us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I think this year may be Brunell's last shot at winning a Super Bowl as a starter for us, I think Campbell will take over from 2007 at the latest and we will never look back from there. Never know with injuries though...thats how guys like Warner, Brady, Dilfer, and Roethlisberger got their chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Wait Brunell is 35, right? Didn't Elway win his first Super Bowl at 36 and his second at 37? I'd say the window is open for a couple more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[S.S.F. | Nero] Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The window will not close for another 3+ years. A. Brunell, if healthy, will start this entire year. B. Campbell will, at best, see limited playing time this season. C. Everyone that knows anything only have good things to say about Campbell's abilities: Release, Scrambling, Accuracy as well as a strong, learning oriented football mind. Others have noted his having 4 different offenses to learn over the last 4 years with another HOPEFULLY more consistent one in Saunders' now.......and there is the key. Al Saunders will undoubtedly make stars out of not only Campbell but also Portis, Moss and Cooley for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I thought this deserved its own thread. I was just thinking about how Mark Brunell is getting older and a lot of us here and in the organization realize that he doesn't have very many seasons left. So I have to ask this question. When does the window close on the Skins getting back to the Super Bowl? Say we make it to the playoffs this year and lose. Can MB endure another season? And if not, how long will it take Jason Campbell to be ready. I feel that the windows closes after this season unless MB can play one more year. What are your thoughts? I just think that with all the recent additions to both offense and defense in addition to Al Saunders, that this team is poised to make a run this year. I hate to burst your bubble but Brunell hasn't been healthy a whole season in over 3 years. So Campbell is going to get some time as the starting QB this season and if he plays well enough, Brunell may not get his job back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talk show host Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I thought this deserved its own thread. You thought wrong, dude. There are like thirty mark brunell threads going on right now. Unfortunately for all of us, you don't have the courtesy to atleast title the thread "Mark Brunell: When does the window close?" I clicked on this link thinking it would be something new, refreshing, interesting, intelligent, and thought provoking. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFC Beast Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 when did the window open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 If Roethlisberger could take his team to the AFC championship his first year, JC can take the Redskins as far in his first year given the talent on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 You thought wrong, dude. There are like thirty mark brunell threads going on right now. Unfortunately for all of us, you don't have the courtesy to atleast title the thread "Mark Brunell: When does the window close?" I clicked on this link thinking it would be something new, refreshing, interesting, intelligent, and thought provoking. :doh: Wow, didn't think it was only about Mark Brunell. You know you can hover your mouse over the topic to get a quick view of the post and if it's not to your liking then please move along. Back to the discussion please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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