bubba9497 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Okay doubters, list another team that has had as many game changing penalties that took points off the board, or prevent a team from getting in scoring position they deserved, especially in close games, as the Redskins have had the past 20 games.... hell list a team who has had half as many go against them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Is this same thread created every single week? mookie -- are you SERIOUS??? You are supposed to be a Skins fan...but the more of your posts I read, the more I think you are a Dallas fan in disguise. The play on Ramsey would have been a penalty in the WWE. It was ridiculous. The offensive pass-interference call against Cooley was RIDICULOUS. It was NOT a push-off. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 answer me this.... snyone remeber a game where the officiating went our way in awhile..I'm talking quite a few years now. Even games like this wher we win i'm complaining about the calls. I watched the Cooley call on a dvd recording and it was legit. He seemed to push off. (but does anyone doubt if it wasvice versa it would have been called?). The Ramsey PF was rediculious but I asked the question at the time since he ahd the ball should it be called?..But I got my answer in the dallas game when San Diego got called for way less. (blow to the head) and Bledsoe still had the ball. Cowboys had 3 TD drives all extended by ticky tack calls. those are the facts..whether or not it's bias remains to be seen but for me it's week in and week out we see this. We got the win though and in the end that's what matters for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Okay doubters, list another team that has had as many game changing penalties that took points off the board, or prevent a team from getting in scoring position they deserved, especially in close games, as the Redskins have had the past 20 games.... hell list a team who has had half as many go against them tell me about it.. the law of averges says if it's not bias we'd have a few go our way right? ain't happening.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYFootballGIANTS Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 No, the refs are not biased against the Redskins. As much as you may not want to believe it, every team has a few stories where the refs made a bad call that decided a game. The refs are human as well and do make mistakes. What you have to realize is that when refs make a call, they do so knowing that one side or another is going to be upset with it. They can't please everybody. Yes, the refs missed some obvious calls and were rather horrible. Whatever the reason for it was, it was not because of some hidden agenda against the refs. What reason do you really think that these refs could have for calling against you intentionally? In the science of psychology, it is an accepted fact that humans generally tend to remember instances that support their ideas and superstitutions and tend to forget ones that don't. I'm positive the Redskins probably have a few instances where they got a call in their favor. Yes, I know what your feeling, we all get annoying with ref calls. The Giants had the playoff game against the 49ers where the league had to apologize because the refs ended the game on defensive penalty while the Giants still could have won. Yes, the referees can make awful calls, but it is not because there is some conspiracy against the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 he offensive pass-interference call against Cooley was RIDICULOUS. It was NOT a push-off. Period. This I agree with. At the very least it was the lamest pushoff ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Bryant Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hey, you're one to talk, O CowFan. How many Dallas third-and-fifteen incompletions today turned into gift first downs against San Diego today courtesy of the Pokes on the field wearing stripes? Four? Five? By the end of the game, you could see the refs loosening the flags in their pockets on Cowboy third down plays so's they'd whip out of their pockets in a smooth, fluid manner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 we're not the only ones that think this... NFL.com http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8834880 Play you might have missed With the Chargers leading 24-21 midway through the fourth quarter, the Cowboys faced third-and-16 from the San Diego 37. Drew Bledsoe completed a short crossing pass to Terry Glenn who was only able to get eight yards before being pushed out of bounds. However, Chargers DB Quentin Jammer was called for defensive holding. About 10 yards downfield, he grabbed the jersey of tight end Jason Witten -- who wasn't even in on the play! -- and the 5-yard penalty gave Dallas an automatic first down. Six plays and over three minutes later the 'Boys were in the end zone. End result: Cowboys 28, Chargers 24 hey the truth is the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I watched the Cooley call on a dvd recording and it was legit. He seemed to push off. (but does anyone doubt if it wasvice versa it would have been called?). You might want to watch it again. He was held on the play. And then he tried to break away from the hold rather than stand there and be held. It's either a hold on the defense or a no call - plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 we're not the only ones that think this...NFL.com http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8834880 Play you might have missed With the Chargers leading 24-21 midway through the fourth quarter, the Cowboys faced third-and-16 from the San Diego 37. Drew Bledsoe completed a short crossing pass to Terry Glenn who was only able to get eight yards before being pushed out of bounds. However, Chargers DB Quentin Jammer was called for defensive holding. About 10 yards downfield, he grabbed the jersey of tight end Jason Witten -- who wasn't even in on the play! -- and the 5-yard penalty gave Dallas an automatic first down. Six plays and over three minutes later the 'Boys were in the end zone. End result: Cowboys 28, Chargers 24 hey the truth is the truth... one more thing on this play that wasn't mentioned here. did anyone else notice that the flag came out so damn late..it wasn't until after he was out of bounds with no first down, then oops hankie! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 You might want to watch it again. He was held on the play. And then he tried to break away from the hold rather than stand there and be held. It's either a hold on the defense or a no call - plain and simple. well I'll watch it again but there were two pair of eyes not just mine that agreed with this assessment. My real point is this call would have never been called against another team in the league period. the instant replay from Fox was a joke for sure!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 No, the refs are not biased against the Redskins.As much as you may not want to believe it, every team has a few stories where the refs made a bad call that decided a game. The refs are human as well and do make mistakes. What you have to realize is that when refs make a call, they do so knowing that one side or another is going to be upset with it. They can't please everybody. Yes, the refs missed some obvious calls and were rather horrible. Whatever the reason for it was, it was not because of some hidden agenda against the refs. What reason do you really think that these refs could have for calling against you intentionally? In the science of psychology, it is an accepted fact that humans generally tend to remember instances that support their ideas and superstitutions and tend to forget ones that don't. I'm positive the Redskins probably have a few instances where they got a call in their favor. Yes, I know what your feeling, we all get annoying with ref calls. The Giants had the playoff game against the 49ers where the league had to apologize because the refs ended the game on defensive penalty while the Giants still could have won. Yes, the referees can make awful calls, but it is not because there is some conspiracy against the Skins. yes every team has a few over a few years.... but name another team that has had so many over so few games? when you have other teams fans notice it, when you have writers comment on it.... makes you wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmac1577 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I think that every ref in that crew should be fined 10 thousand dollars for that no call if that were sean taylor that would have done that they would have run him off the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Of course the refs give us the raw end of it...it's perfectly blatant. Besides the brutal hit on Ramsey that went unflagged, Urlacher CLEARLY horse-collar tackled Portis later in the game with no call at all. Portis even made the flag throwing gesture to emphasize the point when he got up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuit Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 It's easier to enjoy football when you acknowledge that bad calls happen to every team and good teams overcome them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkinsfan Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 The Native Americans are paying the refs to treat us this way!!!! :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpy007 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I said it before and I'll say it again... I even have a friend who is a HUGE Cowboys fan and he even admits that the refs seem to make bad calls against the Redskins and favor the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboas Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Last years greenbay game did it for me. I don't remember when the flag came out, but I imagine it was sometime between "touchdown" and washington" when portis flew into the endzone. Does anyone think the Saints got some calls today? They really suck, and it looked to me that they got some huge calls in their favor today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bounty Hunter #21 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 It is true i think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Everyone that is saying chill out, refs are going to make bad calls....I think that you guys need to stop being so naive and open your eyes. This has been going on for at least two years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pR0JEkT 21 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Dude, chill out.The refs will miss some calls, and that's just the way the games goes. You can't do anything about it. The Redskins get plenty of "ghost" calls from the refs too, but those never seem to get mentioned. Yes, they did miss some calls especially when Ramsy got the crap kicked out of him with that close-line I heard. Here is Ramsy on the sidelines after the hit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 If I have to endure another year of us whining about the Ref's calls. I'm gonna puke. Well disciplined teams that play together can overcome bad calls and still win. It happens all the time. So please, can we hold off on the ref's make us lose 8 games a year schtick? :notworthy :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 who remembers the game where the ref made such a bad call against us at home, that the other refs made the ref go stand by himself on the other side of field while the rest of them discussed it. We chanted fire him and other angry things. It was so precious watching that guy just kick grass, while the other refs tried to figure out what to do about it. If I remember correctly they said he was a dumb ass, not a challenge review just damn you suck as a ref intervention. Its about time they pony up the dough and have professional refs, whose livelyhood is to ref games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jizmaglobin Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 no,they aren't biased against us,they're just inept half the time.:dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 The refs around the league all stink, they're not just out to get the Skins. Watch any NFL game on Sunday and you'll see plenty of bad calls and non-calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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