Darrell Green Fan

That's exactly how I see it as well.

As perhaps the biggest believer that you need the best QB you can get on this board I was perfectly fine passing on Tua for Chase, nobody was suggesting Herbert at 2 and revisionist history is unfair. They had the chance to grab an unbelievable prospect at a critical position and they simply had to find out what they had in Dwayne Haskins. With that said I don't think anyone saw 7 sacks for the year, especially after the opener. I remain convinced the drop off is a result of him not exploding off the line as he did in college. But I also recognize that nearly every great pass rusher developed over time, his stats line up just fine with rookie stats of some of the best pass rushers of all time. So I'm still fine with Chase Young as our pick but if you asked me today yes I would trade him for Herbert and possibly Tua (injury risk there).

So Jon Allen, a steal in the draft at the time, has the value of a 3rd in your opinion? That's about right, unfortunately. And while I agree with you on Payne maybe I'm wrong but hoping for Pro Bowl or close to it performance from either Allen and Payne was not out of the question, Hell many fans believed they were on the cusp starting the season, and it's just not the case. Also agree with out about Settle, there were many years here when he would have been their best DL. I still see them as similar to Chris Weber and Juan Howard, good but we were expecting so much more.

Yeah perhaps you are right, that's why I said to a lesser extent. Still I look at Vita Vea and was hoping for similar production. I was torn on the 2 on draft day.

I could not DVR the game but I did watch Chase exclusively on the replay of several games. He's very good in pursuit and certainly makes plays. But he sure isn't beating the tackle around the corner like he did in college and like so many of the top pass rushers do. And he is certainly not getting double teamed as often as fans believe, the vast majority of his plays he is getting locked up one on one with the tackle. But I am fine with Chase, I think he will be very good to great very soon. I'm much more concerned with Jonathan Allen and to a lesser degree Payne. Fans have been overrating Allen the entire time he has been here. This is year 3 and at no point has he ever looked dominant.

I see many here are coming around to a line of thinking I've had all year. This DL is very overrated by our fans. I commented on Chase Young after the first game, then retracted it. But I was still seeing the same thing. In college so many of his plays came off his burst at the snap, he was the first one off and it gave him an edge. This year early he got caught on a few off sides and he seems hesitant, he is not exploding off the edge as we expected. Then we have Allen and Payne who are still living off their college reputation. The fact is they haven't been close to what was expected.

As I said I am done with the topic, it does not belong here and I do not wish to deal with you and your condescending tone. See the 2 posts above yours, they spell it out pretty well and shows I'm hardly alone on the topic. Frankly if you can't see the value of a franchise QB in this league today I have no idea what you are watching.

Yep Ryp got them to the playoffs the years before and after that SB win. But he wasn't playing as well and that was a big reason they failed to advance. We should probably get back on topic as nobody seems to want to address my point about Cleveland, Arizona, Cincinatti, Buffalo and San Diego.

1. That was at a different time, the QB position is much more important today but it's always been important. But it's much more important in today's game. 2. Make no mistake Joe Theisman and Doug Williams were in fact franchise QBs 3. He got lucky that Rypien played like a franchise QB for a year. It's as simple as that. Now please address my examples above, all 5 of those teams have totally changed their future prospects because they found a good QB.

I understand this is a DL thread but I have to respond. You are ignoring the major point here. In 1991 Mark Rypien played like a franchise QB and we saw the results. He was not some mid-level QB who proved you don't need a good QB to win big, in 1991 he was an excellent QB. Once he reverted to form the team was no longer a contender as he was no longer effective and soon no longer employed by the team. Mark Rypien actually fits my argument, not yours. And that is it's much easier to find long lasting success with a good QB. Mark Rypien was only a good QB for a year or 2, guys like that are rarely the answer for a team looking for long lasting success. No the teams that are on contention for a decade almost always have good QBs. Now look at teams like Arizona, Cleveland, Cincinatti, SD, and Buffalo. All were long time losers, SD looked to in for a rebuild post Rivers but despite their record with so many close losses most everyone sees them as trending up. All these teams have found good young QBs and now their projections are entirely different then they have been for years, in some cases decades. If we could only get a guy like that, I'm not saying you need a Hall of Famer just a good QB, our future would look so much brighter than it does today. Without a QB you have little chance at lasting success unless you are the Ravens and we ain't the Ravens. If they find themselves in a position to draft one they have to consider it.

But in that magical season Ryp played like a franchise quarterback, why do posters continue to forget this? When he regressed to who he really was he was no longer of value and he was gone.

No thanks, I'm well aware of the odds. Just pointing out how a quarterback can really change a team's fortune and how a Super Bowl appearance is not necessary to show that.

Ryan Anderson has very little value, if any.

Just don't trade him for a 2nd, we always screw those up. As for the culture of losing again Cleveland, Arizona and Cincy had that culture, then they drafted a QB and look at them now.

Absolutely. I wish he was signed for 10 years.

The best thing this team could do if it's even possible is lock up Chase and Sweat for a long time, those 2 would be an unbelievable tandem for years and years. While I can see the agrument for signing RK giving a fairly big contract to an aging vet is not something a rebuilding team should be doing IMO. But I do agree he may take a discount, and with the lower cap who knows what his price will be on the open market. But you have to believe the offers will be higher from teams with a bigger need for this skill than this team has.

I'm a big RK fan but I don't see them signing him again so they simply have to trade the one player of value (read not Anderson who has no value) they have while they can.

Boy isn't that the truth. So frustrating and a bit puzzling.

Good post @Alcoholic ZebraI agree with most of what you said. I'm still fine with Ron Rivera, he inherited a crappy roster and a crappy QB. There is little doubt in my mind that he is a fine NFL head coach. The problem is every accomplished head coach leaves here with his reputation tarnished. It's the reverse car wash that is the Washington Football Team and without a change in ownership I don't see that changing. I mean is Danny even humbled in the least after his insistence on drafting Dwayne Haskins has failed so miserably? I highly doubt it.

I don't see Ron giving up that much control, it probably played a big part in his decision to come here. What I have been wondering is how is Ron supposed to be making calls and handling personnel while still putting in the time to create a game plan? Oh and that little cancer treatment thingy as well. I never like the coach centric approach. There is only one Bill Bilichick, most fail when they try to do both jobs.

Oh no doubt, that's obvious by the responses here as well as other places. But enough people feel as I do that Jason Wright felt the need to address our concerns at length in his blog. https://www.washingtonfootball.com/news/presidents-weekly-brief-lets-talk-about-the-name

While I agree the new logo is not a good look for the Rams there is absolutely no guarantee Snyder won't F it up even in 2 years. I can't believe you guys are OK with this no name name for anther year. I assure you I am not alone in this thought.

It's been months, have they even started the polls? Red Wolves, Red Hawks, whatever. Nobody is going to change their feelings on the team based on the name. What is embarrassing is being the only sports team in the world without a name, to carry that over for another year is just so weak and another reason opposing fans can laugh at our team.

Again I was in the business for 20 years. I understand how long a complete rebrand takes. But it never should never take 2 years to decide on a name and a logo. The Rams took their time because they had a freaking name, we don't even have that and to say it takes 2 years to decide on a name and logo is crazy. Going into a second season with no name is lame.

I am puzzled that a man who owns a marketing company needs over a year to come up with a name and design a logo. That is mind boggling and so damn frustrating. I sold for a design and print company. It takes a designer a few hours to come up with a few logo comps once they are given the concept. I never ever heard of a company taking a year and a half to start a rebrand with the first steps of a name and logo selection. Just pick a F-ing name Danny and stop embarrassing us all.