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Yeah, I have Robinson gone in my scenario. I figure Robinson's range starts at Philly (22) all the way to Zona at 34. Right now I have roughly the top 35 going (in no particular order): QBs (5): Caleb, Drake, Jayden, JJ, Penix (someone (like Vegas) trades up for him) TE (1): Bowers WR (6): MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, Thomas, Worthy, Mitchell OT (8): Alt, Fashanu, Fuaga, Fautanu, Latham, Mimms, Guyton, Morgan IOL (2): Barton, JPJ Edge (5): Turner, Verse, Latu, Chop, Robinson DT (2): Murphy, Newton LB (1): Cooper DB (5): Arnold, Mitchell, Wiggins, Dejean, Kool-aid Now, would some others potentially replace some (Ladd going instead of either Texas WR for example)? Certainly, but this is the range of players I have. For example, I think it's a given Carolina takes a WR at 33 considering NE and us could take one before their other 2nd. They will want their choice at that spot. I don't think I'm missing anyone from the top 35.

Say all the big OL prospects are gone (Alt, Fuaga, Fashanu, Fautano, Mimms, Guyton, Barton, JPJ, and Morgan) and the big 5 DBs (Arnold, Mitchell, Wiggins, Dejean, Kool-Aid) before 36, who are you targeting GC? I'm almost considering trading down at 36 to acquire a pick in next year's draft (ideally a 3rd). WR is pretty deep this year. I don't love any of the secondary players after the big 5. Ditto the tackles. I figure 5 edges (Turner, Verse, Latu, Chop, Robinson) & two DTs (Murphy, Newton) are gone before 36 as well. Maybe someone trades up for Cooper (considered as LB1)? We all love Peyton Wilson's film, but his injury history makes him not draft able until mid to late 2nd IMO. Sweat looks the part, but his weight issues scare me IMO.

I'm leaning towards your POV GC for this draft. If Jordan Morgan drops to 36, then fine draft him. I'm not trading up and sacrificing any of our 3rds to get a LT. Might as well sign a stopgap like DJ Humphries (whom Kliff knows) when he gets healthy or Donovan Smith to play LT this year. Next year's first is probably slotted to be either LT or edge IMO anyways. The one guy I can see as a boom/bust is Tez Walker. He's probably going to be there at 36 considering the big 4 WRs will be gone, and I see Worthy most likely going above him as well. I like Tez more than Mitchell honestly. Latu could also slip, but that's purely on medicals.

I'm starting the think that NYG is going to take JJ if he's there at 6. Jones has had two serious neck injuries and is coming off an ACL. I think the cost is going to be 11+23+2025 1st to move up for Minnesota. Does Zona or the Bolts take that package? NYG might offer their 2nd (via Seattle)+6 to the Bolts to move up to 5 if Arizona stays at 4. Bolts gets MHJ or Nabers (whomever Arizona doesn't take) while NYG gets JJ.

He's really good (unlike the former Wapo columnist LOL). He started off at draft network and ESPN poached him. Massive improvement over Todd McKshay (although Todd was entertaining on his podcast with Kiper). You can tell Reid is a grinder.

Would you take Brooks with our first 3rd rounder if he fell and redshirt him basically?

And yet Leonsis was too cheap to retain the coach who led the caps to that title.

Well, we could hope the it ends up being AZ taking MHJ/Nabers and the Bolts taking whomever is left.

Nice effort. Couple of thoughts. I can't see Kool-Aid being CB2. CB1 is going to be Arnold or Mitchell (and whomever isn't is CB2). The Jags signed Mitch Morse in FA, so C doesn't seem to be a viable option in R1. If Pittsburgh can't get Thomas in R1, I see them going either RT, C, or CB.

Leonsis is far worse than Angelos. His recent actions regarding his greed and new stadium shows that. Angelos was never leaving Camden yards. Now, Angelos wasn't a great owner obviously, but I'd take him 1000X over Leonsis (by far and away the worst owner in the NBA). Leonsis just basically stole 70 million for the Wizards practice facility that was inadequate the day it was built. He's trying to leave after 5 years there. There are numerous accounts that I have posted on how much of a scumbag Leonsis is.

Would rather take Blake Fisher at the top of the 3rd round.

Maybe personally not (although the way he treated Buck & Phil screams volumes about his personal character IMO). Snyder got rightfully crucified for his treatment of Frank. Leonsis got nothing for how awful he was to Buck & Phil. There's too much smoke out there about how awful Leonsis really is. KD wouldn't even give the Wizards a meeting when he was a FA! That tells you how much of a joke he is to the rest of the NBA.

Was it the lackluster combine? He's got short arms and didn't have an impressive weight-lifting session.

I'm targeting Fisher or Rosengarten with out early 3rd. We got Morgan Moses with an early 3rd and I'm hoping history repeats itself.

I trust this dude from than Schefter lol

They couldn't keep KP. Once they traded Beal and did the rebuild, he was out. He would have opted out and gone to Utah if need be (they had the cap space). We did what we could. I didn't like trading Gafford initially, but I understand it. We're not resigning him in two years. Might as well get a 1st to look at instead. Look, the Wizards are basically an expansion team. Every other team in the NBA has a baseline of lotto picks and young talent. We don't. Because of Leonsis's pure idiocy of not trading Beal, we have nothing in terms of starting a rebuild. This is going to take 4-5 years at least. You wonder why Leonsis can't get his stupid arena? Because he's a complete moron. Who else authorizes selling of 2nd round picks for cash multiple times? You know Jordan Clarkson was drafted by the Wizards and sold to the Lakers for straight cash? You know Leonsis could have simply resigned Bogdan Bogdonovich instead of letting him go to Indiana? He was too cheap to pay the luxury tax. You know he got Bogdan because we wanted to lessen his tax burden (only time he's ever paid the tax) and traded away a first rounder that turned out to be Jarrett Allen? He's been sucking off the teat of tax-paying teams his entire tenure. Most despicable owner in the NBA by far. Worst production value from his stupid Monumental TV. Complete sycophants as his announcers (it was embarrassing listening to them try and prop up Johnny Davis last night). JUST SAY HE'S A BUST!!! Stupid superimposed ads on the court ruin the watching experience. They don't even broadcast the games fully. Instead, they have these stupid sideline interviews during the game. WHO CARES!!! You know our announcers are high up in the rafters calling the game because Leonsis is so greedy that he wanted more sellable court-side seats? Other team announcers clown the fact they have to sit up so high when doing Wizards games. You think the Celtics, Lakers, Heat, etc. are doing such things? Look how he treated Buck & Phil? Look how he's treated the longtime organist for the Caps. Look how he was too cheap to resign a coach who won the cup for him? He's an utter coward and worse than Snyder IMO. He took public money to build his stupid practice facility 5 years ago and it is wholly inadequate according to everyone. Look up David Aldridge's excellent article about it in the The Athletic. I root for everything despicable to happen to him. Most contemptible owner I've ever seen. Complete coward who won't do any interviews with anyone who isn't a toadie.

Vegas makes a ton of sense. Minshew is only signed for two years. I think they draft a RT at 13 (Fuaga or Latham) and trade up from the 2nd into the late 1st and grab Penix. What does McGinn say about Drake?

The new stadium will be named "insert sponsor" at RFK. Makes the most the sense.

I think Morgan is the best outcome for getting a day 1 LT. His short arm length might cause him to fall a bit, but I can't see him falling behind SF as they treasure athletic tackles. I'd be ok trading up to the mid 20s to take Morgan. Outside of that, I'm kind of with you in that I don't want to sacrifice picks to target needs. I do think Kool-Aid (for example) will be there at 36 because of the Jones fracture. Peyton is going to fall because of his medicals. I'm taking him with our early 3rd if he's there. Let him sit behind Wagner & Luvu for a year and absorb before taking over. Honestly, CB is the #2 code red position we have. BSJ sucked last year and is a FA. We have nothing after that. I think the top 3 CBs (Arnold, Mitchell, Wiggins) will all be gone before 20 because they are in a tier by themselves. Dejean goes in the 20s. Kool-Aid slips because of the injury. Zinter is recovering from a broken leg, but we can take a chance on him for example.

Here are some examples of trade ups of recent drafts. Our equivalent trades are made in bold 2020 (Chargers-Pats) (Chargers trades 37+71 to NE for #23); Closest Equivalent trade would be: 36+67 to Minnesota for #23) 2022 (Jets-Titans) (Titans traded 26+101 to Jets for 35+69+163); Closest Equivalent trade would be: 36+67+152 to Tampa for 26+92). I don't think Tampa would do this however). 2022 (Jags-Tampa) (Jags traded 33+106+180 to Tampa for 27); Closest Equivalent Trade would be: 36+100+152 to Arizona for 27) Right now, if we want to move up in the low 20s to get a desired LT, we need to sacrifice 67 IMO. Otherwise, we could do the Montez Sweat trade up where we traded our 2nd rounder (mid 2nd+future 2nd (turned out to be #34)) for Sweat. That turned out to be a good deal. Don't know if Peters would do it, but teams might be tempted to think we'll suck next year.

To me, it’s qb (2), trade up for a LT (Morgan or Mims) in the early 20s sacrificing the Seattle 3rd rounder, and CB (40).

He sucks. If Tennessee (who had as bad an OL as we did) cut him after signing him in FA to some money, then why would anyone else?

Dejean has injury concerns too. He's going to go in the 1st round however. Buffalo might be a good spot for him. Their entire secondary has been gutted and Elam has been kind of a bust for them. All top 3 CBs are going to go high. I can see Philly trading up to get one of the top 3 CBs. Fangio defenses require them. He drafted Surtain high for a reason in Denver. Last year, he traded for Ramsay. Rams are going to go CB too. Jags need a CB as well. All of them will be gone before the 20s.

I think Kool-Aid (I'm assuming he's your CB4) is going to be there at 36. He has a Jones fracture that will cause him to fall.

Would you trade (like Minny) #40 and a 2025 2nd to move to the early 20s (say Miami) and take OT? Basically another Montez Sweat trade.