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Could Beckton be a sneaky FA target to play LG? Don’t know if he wants to do that, but he could be Flowers 2.0 in that regard

If we are signing a RB (which I don't think we should devote any big money to), give me Josh Jacobs over Barkley any day of the week. Barkley has always been overrated. Just look at last year, Cook was cut for a reason, and then didn't do anything in NYJ. Don't spend big money on a RB. I'm not devoting any major cap money on a RB.

He'll fall, but I figure we'll have to take him with that early 4th. You think he lasts that long? I really liked how Rodriguez ran last year in his limited reps. The key is that at least one backup RB must be able to play teams.

Considering the depth of the class and the obvious OL needs right, wouldn't waiting on WR be a better outcome? We probably get a contributor with our early 4th whereas the OL will likely be wiped out. We also have a big edge need. Right now (especially with the Leno release), we have to go: #2 (QB) #36 (OL/Edge) #40 (Edge/OL) #67 (LB/Skill/CB) #101 (CB/LB/Skill) #103 (Skill) #138 (RB) Now, we'll fill some holes in FA, but I can't see us taking WR with that either 2nd considering the OL & edge needs.

I think Dalton Schultz is a clear target for us. We have nothing at TE and DQ is familiar with him.

I really can't get into college basketball anymore. The quality of play is just horrendous.

Over Brian Thomas Jr?

Puline has been raving about him. Didn't understand why he wasn't more touted.

Pats cannot trade out of 3. It would be malpractice to do so. Zona trading down is interesting. Who trades up?? O could see NYG doing it for MHJ. Zona decides the take best WR left at 6 assuming they have all three rated evenly

I don’t think we can take anything other than edge and OL with our seconds. Quality edges will certainly be gone by our third. Ditto OL (sans maybe SVP) (but are we already giving up on Stromberg?). I think there is a much higher likelihood of getting skill at that early 3rd. Frankly, I’m targeting CB or LB with that early 3rd anyways. We can get skill with our late 3rd/early 4th. Right now, I’m saying our picks will be… 1 (qb) 2a & 2b (edge and OL) 3a & 3b (lb and cb) 4 (wr)

Thanks GC. Yeah, I figure at least one of those four is gone in the 1st as I expect the big three edges to be all drafted by the end of the teens. Arizona needs an edge, so they could take another one with either of their late 1st/early 2nd. We might be forced to take the last man standing at 36. I'm not sure why Elliss isn't more highly thought of in the draftnik community. I think the draftnik community is overrating the 2nd tier WRs (after the big 4) and expecting a run on them. You can find WRs later in the draft. You really can't find good edges.

How would you rate the 2nd tier edges of Robinson, Trice, Braswell, and Ellis? It seems like Robinson has a got rocket to his stock after the senior bowl week.

WR isn't a pressing need IMO. Sure, I'd like to add a WR, but our money must be devoted to the OL and edge positions. Heck, we might resign Curtis if it comes to it. CB frankly isn't deep in FA, but it might be a code red position as well.

I think we MUST come away with our 2nd rounders with OL and edge. We have nothing at edge right now. Now, I think we'll sign a pass rusher in FA, but we still need more depth. Obviously OL doesn't need to be explained. Now, I could see us trading back from one of our 2nds in my scenario to a Nix/Penix loving team. Still, the 2nd rounders have to be dedicated towards the OL and edge. The 3rd rounders could be wildcards, but I expect that high 3rd rounder to be a CB IMO. I didn't want to be cheerleader. I'd love to get Barton, but I was trying to be realistic. Ditto Latham. Morgan, I'm not that high on as I see him as a G due to his bad arm length. Now Shanny might not care about that, but everyone else probably does.

Thanks for the positive feedback. Yeah, I think NO desperately needs OL help as Peat is a FA, Ramzyk might retire due to injuries, and Penning might be a bust. Guyton got the nod over Fuaga there because of his LT potential. Saints gamble on the upside. Jaguars are tricky to determine what they want. Their GM said they'll focus on the trenches. Apparently, their IOL was trash last year. Fautanu could step right away at G. They could cut Scherff apparently post June 1 to save some money. I'd trade up for Latham in this scenario, but trades are hard to predict. I think the Chargers (someone moving up for Nabers) and Denver (lack picks) are the most motivated sellers in this draft. Yeah, its just that I figure he's RT only, so Guyton, Fautanu get the edge over him in the pecking order. I'd move up too in this scenario.

My first top 40 mock of the season (no trades) pre combine pre FA: Assumptions: Kirk resigns in Minny, Russell Wilson to Vegas, Fields traded to Pittsburgh. ROUND 1: 1). Chicago (from Carolina)__Caleb Williams (Obviously the Bears will take Caleb) 2). Washington__Drake Maye (I still say we take Maye) 3). New England__Jayden Daniels (Will take whomever is left) 4). Arizona__Marvin Harrison Jr (Will take WR here) 5). Los Angeles__Malik Nabers (I think they want to trade down desperately) 6). New York Giants__Rome Odunze (NYG settles for Odunze) 7). Tennessee__Joe Alt (Went back and forth here, but settled on Alt for the Titans) 8. Atlanta__JJ McCarthy (Have to take QB here if they don't upgrade in the off-season) 9). Chicago__Brock Bowers (BPA) 10). New York Jets__Olu Fashanu (Need OL help everywhere. Could be Fuaga if Fashanu is off the board) 11). Minnesota__Dallas Turner (Hunter could be gone in FA) 12). Denver__Byron Murphy (Will be the most motivated trade-down team in the draft. At this stage, they take BPA). 13). Las Vegas__Terrion Arnold (No QB worthy to take here. They go for CB1) 14). New Orleans__Tyler Guyton (Ramzyk might be forced to retire. Penning hasn't worked out. Need OL help). 15). Indianapolis__Jared Verse (Edge is a huge need) 16). Seattle__Laiai Latu (Was hoping for Murphy. Settles on getting an edge) 17). Jacksonville__Troy Fautanu (Their FO has emphasized improving the IOL. Scherff could be a cut candidate). 18). Cincinnati__Taliese Fuaga (They have cap money to spend upgrading the defense (including DT). Fuaga could go as high as 10 to NYJ). 19). Los Angeles Rams__Quinyon Mitchell (CB is arguably the #1 need area). 20). Pittsburgh__Jackson Powers-Johnson (If JPJ isn't here, than Barton could be the pick). 21). Miami__Darius Robinson (Both edges are coming off ACL injuries). 22). Philadelphia__Nate Wiggins (Would like a young edge, but can't pass on Wiggins). 23). Houston__Brian Thomas Jr (Adds a deep threat for CJ). 24). Dallas__Jer'Zhan Newton (Mazi Smith was a major disappointment last year. Could be OL as well). 25). Green Bay__Cooper Dejean (All Safeties are FAs) 26). Tampa Bay__Graham Barton (IOL is a major need area). 27). Arizona (from Houston)__JC Latham (Could play RT right and slide Paris Johnson to LT). 28). Buffalo__Chop Robinson (Edge is a huge need area with only Russeau assured to be back). 29). Detroit__Ennis Rakestraw (I think they will be a team looking to trade up for one of the top 3 CBs) 30). Baltimore__Amarius Mims (Moses looked really bad at the end of the year. Ronnie Stanley can't be counted on to stay healthy. Mims slides due to his own injury concerns and lack of durability in college). 31). San Francisco__Jordan Morgan (Fits the Shanny style OL to a tee. Lack of arm length isn't a concern as they prefer athleticism. Will start at RT). 32). Kansas City__Ladd McConkey (Is this the year KC goes WR?). ROUND 2: 33). Carolina__Keon Coleman (Have to get more weapons for Bryce). 34). Arizona__Braylan Trice (Nice to get a young edge here). 35). New England__Kingsley Summitaia (Tackle is a huge need area as Owenwu could leave in FA). 36). Washington__Chris Braswell (Edge and OL are huge need areas). 37). Los Angeles Chargers__T'vondre Sweat (Might be limited as a two-down player, but their DTs have been trash). 38). Tennessee__Kool-Aid McKinstry (Both starters are FAs) 39). New York Giants__Tyler Nubin (McKinney is a FA). 40). Washington (from Chicago)__Cooper Bebee (Will start at LG day 1).

Yeah, that's true. I figure we will sign an edge (at least one) in FA for sure. Ditto OL. That's where our cap dollars will be allocated.

I figure our picks assuming no trades will be qb (round 1), edge and OL (round 2). After that, it is BPA (although lb has to be the strongest consideration for r3)

can’t find the link to the interview, but here’s an article about what Mayo said… https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10105593-jerod-mayo-patriots-will-draft-best-player-for-a-position-thats-very-important.amp.html That’s clear as day that they will take a Qb.

I can’t see NE passing up Daniel’s/Maye at 3. It would be suicide to do so. Heck Mayo even said they were basically taking a qb at 3 when he got hired. If for some reason NE traded down to 6, they’d take JJ at 6

If LAC passes on Bowers, I could see him dropping to that 10-15 range. Chicago might pounce assuming the top 3 WRs are gone. Kmet is OK, but he's no Bowers. I think Verse ends up being Edge 2. Latu has the medical issues while Turner ends up being Edge 1. New Orleans needs an infusion of young edge rushing talent on that aging defense.

Yeah, but I'd argue that when Holcombe went down in 2022, the run defense improved dramatically with...gulp...Bostic in. Holcombe was a terrible run defender here. I'm glad we didn't resign him. Barton was trash to be true.

If he's that good, Maybe LAC takes him with their 3rd round pick? Ditto Corum considering Ekelar may be gone.

The thing is that whomever is the 3rd RB MUST be able to play teams. B-Rob isn't playing it. Rodriguez probably bumps to the #2 power back and he did play some teams last year. That is a feature that we all need to look for.

I figure the following are locks to be gone before #36: OFFENSE (16) QBs (4): Caleb, Drake, Jayden, JJ TE (1): Bowers WR (4): MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, Thomas T (5): Alt, Fuaga, Fashanu, Latham, Guyton (too much love going on about him in the draftnik world to see him slip) IOL (2): JPJ, Fautanu DEFENSE (8): DT (1): Murphy Edge (3): Turner, Verse, Latu CB (3): Arnold, Mitchelll, Wiggins S (1): DeJean Now, guys like Braswell, Barton, etc could easily be first rounders, but the above list are lock first rounders IMO unless I'm missing someone. The interesting RT prospect who could fall Mimms. His injury history could cause him to slip to 36.