soljaofjesus Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Smokescreen uses that to get more value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 More posturing by Gibbs? Held a pres conference? Hmmm.. Lets let everyone else know that LC is still available to the highest bidder? Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightenupSandyBaby Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by RWJ It will be interesting to see what happens to Samuels if he doesn't renegotiate a new contract. My hopes are that we except the #22 for Coles. This way we get a player fresh out of college that can produce. Did you know that Samuels Jersey is being sold for $29.99 at The Redskins store in Lake Forest mall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyholetsgogrant Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 "Did you know that Samuels Jersey is being sold for $29.99 at The Redskins store in Lake Forest mall?" Yea, its been posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I find it interesting that the Jets think he would be unhappy if they didn't restructure his deal. Sounds like he has a bad attitude, which is why they let him get away to begin with. However, I'd make him play his contract. A few wins will change his tune and he is an excellent receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUSTINMFOX Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by heyholetsgogrant "Did you know that Samuels Jersey is being sold for $29.99 at The Redskins store in Lake Forest mall?" Yea, its been posted As are Coles, Gardner, Morton, Smoot, and Brunell.... All of the jerseys that aren't moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinLifer Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I still have a bad feeling that we'll end up trading him to the Jets, absorb the cap hit that comes with it by releasing Samuels, and then sign Moss to a ridiculously lucrative extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 What day is Cole's operation for the toe schedule for? He won't pass a physical for a trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedUpField Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 "According to a source familiar with the situation, the potential for a Coles-Moss trade has greatly diminished for an unspecified reason." Maybe between OL 40 yard dashes, VC, DS and JG were cruising Extremeskins and realized how pissed off we'd all be if they'd have executed that trade without getting VALUE (a word Gibbs repeated about fourteen times).... Another bonehead move rescued by the astute amateur-FO peeps at ES.com! - FUF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by FLSKINSFAN Unfortunately, I guess we can expect to see Coles in a Redskins uniform for a while. I dont get it? Why is this so "unfortunate"? Keep him...make him honor his contract...restructure Samuels...and make a splash in FA! We will be 10 million under (I believe) if Samuels restructures and we dont trade Coles! Sign Smoot and Pierce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by Zen-like Todd The only thing that makes me want a Coles trade is the fact that it would go a long way towards cleaning up our 2006 cap situation. Other than that, I'm not interested in dumping him just because he's a whiney brat. I want picks and salary cap relief in return for a trade, period. Exactly, he will only be here one more season, he won't be here for the roster bonus due in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSideBlitz Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Minnesota is 30+ million under the cap. We could give them coles and they could give us the #18 pick and have plenty of cap space to eat the 5 million. Then you know the would not pick a wr with the #7 pick and we could pick our wr at #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by BlindSideBlitz Minnesota is 30+ million under the cap. We could give them coles and they could give us the #18 pick and have plenty of cap space to eat the 5 million. Then you know the would not pick a wr with the #7 pick and we could pick our wr at #9. That would be perfect scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by heyholetsgogrant What if he holds out? If we keep him and he holds out, he will be charged daily for every day he holds out starting the day training camp starts. Remember Duce Staley tried to pull that with the Eagles. - The more crap like that he pulls, the more his value as a player diminishes if he is serious about another team trading for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark84 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I don't want us to be stuck paying him the bonus, so him staying put is the best thing. I am sure we will sign Moss next year anyways. He has five years remaining on the contract, I don't understand why he wants an extension, unless he thinks there is more money to be made that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 If I were the Redskins, the Vikings would be the first club I would contact. I'd offer: Coles AND Samuels for #7 and McKinnie. The Redskins would then have #7 and #9 and could get Williams at #7 and trade the #9 down to accumulate additional 1st day picks. Twice if they have to... and then identify OL (Baas...Brown....Spencer)..... DL (Tuck...Roth.... Pollack).... and a corner. Of course, the Vikes would have to take the $5m cap hit for Coles. They'd have a new wideout to replace Moss, a franchise LT.... and the #18 pick to go defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTaylor22 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Well aslong as we get Mike Williams im cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsarethebest Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by FedUpField "According to a source familiar with the situation, the potential for a Coles-Moss trade has greatly diminished for an unspecified reason." - FUF Hey, don't be down on this -- last year, didn't the skins' talks with jim fassel break down for an "unspecified reason" hmmm.... maybe there's something no one here is anticipating that's about to go down with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Wop Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 In my crystal ball.....I wouldn't be suprised if the skins don't just say to Samuels, take it or leave it, and make him a cap casulty. Though I think he is talented....he did struggle in 2003 and came back to play at a pretty high level in 2004......but not to the degree that you pay him a premium......way I see it, you lost with him......at the very worst you will lose with out him, while not paying an excessive contract. If Coles does come back and acts up during the season or off-season, just make him a June 1 2006 cut, and we could be in a great cap position in 2005 and 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by Cskin If I were the Redskins, the Vikings would be the first club I would contact. I'd offer: Coles AND Samuels for #7 and McKinnie. The Redskins would then have #7 and #9 and could get Williams at #7 and trade the #9 down to accumulate additional 1st day picks. Twice if they have to... and then identify OL (Baas...Brown....Spencer)..... DL (Tuck...Roth.... Pollack).... and a corner. Of course, the Vikes would have to take the $5m cap hit for Coles. They'd have a new wideout to replace Moss, a franchise LT.... and the #18 pick to go defense. I'd love that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSKINSFAN Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Why is this so "unfortunate"? Because we have to keep a player making big money, who doesn't want to be here. That's not an ideal situation, especially if his heart isn't in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by FLSKINSFAN Because we have to keep a player making big money, who doesn't want to be here. That's not an ideal situation, especially if his heart isn't in it. At least we can keep that "Core" together. That whats important. Coles will play hard for us next year...he's gone after it anyways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I think this will all go down to the wire on Tuesday. There are at least two very serious games of chicken going on simultaneously: 1) Redskins and Samuels and 2) Redskins and Coles In situation 1) Samuels has the edge and I guess we'll blink first. In situation 2) We have the edge and I guess Coles blinks first. We are going to have to probably overpay Samuels because he has us by the short ones. Once we do that deal then Coles will likely have to blink or see his situation worsen - by having to stay here or by having to go to an even worse situation (like Baltimore). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I would rather give up Coles for nothing and get cap relief than eat his SB and get a so-so player in exchange. Coles wants the best of all worlds. - He wants to be traded AND get paid from every possible team he can. If he wants to go somewhere else, he has to be willing to work with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Can we trade Coles to the Ravens for Ozzie Newsome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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