bubba9497 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 guys I am watching the Denver/Buffalo game and so far both Plummer and Bledsoe are stinking the joint out... Ramsey & Brunell both looked like pro-bowlers last night compared to these two. about 10 passes thrown by both. 3 int (plummer 2 [1 by a DE], Bledsoe 1) and only about 3 rec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 I remember watching Favre throw 3 interceptions in one half of a preseason game back in the '90s when he was in his prime. I think that was the year GB lost to the Broncos in the SB. Why people get so geeked about meaningless exhibition games is beyond me. Brunell has a career qb rating higher than almost all the starting qbs in the NFL and yet extremeskins fans treat him as if he were an unknown quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman56 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Brunell also has the second roundest head in league history behind Jon Kitna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island Boy Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by Hitman56 Brunell also has the second roundest head in league history behind Jon Kitna. I dont know about that I think Marks is more of a perfect circle.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW31 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog I remember watching Favre throw 3 interceptions in one half of a preseason game back in the '90s when he was in his prime. I think that was the year GB lost to the Broncos in the SB. Why people get so geeked about meaningless exhibition games is beyond me. Brunell has a career qb rating higher than almost all the starting qbs in the NFL and yet extremeskins fans treat him as if he were an unknown quantity. Okay, this is way OT, but I just want to vent. Why do people believe far is some great clutch qb in the playoffs? He throws crucial ints year after year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by RW31 Okay, this is way OT, but I just want to vent. Why do people believe far is some great clutch qb in the playoffs? He throws crucial ints year after year... favre WAS clutch. last year proved he cant do it in the big games any longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 The more I watch Farve the less impressed I am of him. Of course the same could be said of Ramsey. Har har. joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog I remember watching Favre throw 3 interceptions in one half of a preseason game back in the '90s when he was in his prime. I think that was the year GB lost to the Broncos in the SB. Why people get so geeked about meaningless exhibition games is beyond me. Better yet as I recall, didn't Bret Favre throw about 6 interceptions against the St. Louis Rams in the NFC championship game a few years ago? Yet I don't recall anyone saying lets get rid of that bum, Bret Favre. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arioch Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by Hitman56 Brunell also has the second roundest head in league history behind Jon Kitna. Oh dude!......I was actually thinking 'Barney Rubble' myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 guys I am watching the Denver/Buffalo game and so far both Plummer and Bledsoe are stinking the joint out... Ramsey & Brunell both looked like pro-bowlers last night compared to these two. about 10 passes thrown by both. 3 int (plummer 2 [1 by a DE], Bledsoe 1) and only about 3 rec. Bubba have you ever thought they KNOW who the #1 qb is there so don't have to play as hard, then again I assume most likely you didn't Look at Ramsey his big chance to show he should start and he plays terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 on a side note Gus Frerotte looked decent in the Minny game vs. AZ. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma Bubba have you ever thought they KNOW who the #1 qb is there so don't have to play as hard, then again I assume most likely you didn't that has to be your worst attempt at an argument ever. Since they know they are the starters... then the pressure is off... isn't it. And in preseason the offense and defense are simple plays... not that difficult for proven starters in the same system (Plummer) one would logically assume that they should preform better. So why did they play so bad? because after the winter layoff.. it takes time to get in tune, and shake the rust off. So if proven starters under no stress have rust and are playing to get in game shape.... why is it we can't allow Ramsey the same time and pateince to get into game shape. People here seem to expect too much too soon, and have very little patience. A fine wine takes time as does many other great things. How do you get to Carnagie Hall???? practice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Plummer has looked HORRIBLE through two preseason games, however he was never really GREAT in the first place, and I think a lot of "experts" figured the "denver system" would take an average QB with a strong arm, and somehow transform him into an elite QB......LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helluvaskinsfan Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog I remember watching Favre throw 3 interceptions in one half of a preseason game back in the '90s when he was in his prime. I think that was the year GB lost to the Broncos in the SB. Why people get so geeked about meaningless exhibition games is beyond me. Brunell has a career qb rating higher than almost all the starting qbs in the NFL and yet extremeskins fans treat him as if he were an unknown quantity. i remember his first pass in regular season as a rookie was an interception to the redskins returned for a touchdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Jake was pretty good in College. Too bad he threw 120 picks when he played fo the Cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I still must remind every one of where we are in the process - three more pre-season games. Remember the reports from early camp about how weak Brunell's arm looked? Gee - that pass to McCants sure looked pretty good. Clearly it seems that Ramsey is pressing. He talked big when we got Brunell about being traded, getting a fair chance to start, etc. The fact is that since he has only had college level coaching prior to this year, he isn't as experienced as the number of games he played would lead us to think he should be. Don't underestimate the need to unlearn everything he knows. SS ran these idiotic schemes and demanded that he have no outlet receiver, no blocking, and that he hold the ball for 5 seconds for his receiver to come open just as he would get killed by the rush. I think it takes time to learn a new timing of one - two - three - balls goes deep, medium, short, or out of bounds. But NEVER forced into the wrong place. Most of Ramsey's bad passes have been overthrown too (of course except for the int that should have been a td for Coles) which seems to be another indication he's pressing and trying to force the ball in. I don't know if or when the whole thing will click for him, but when he gets his confidence back and learns the right rhythm and timing - he'll be a great qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 one would logically assume that they should preform better. So why did they play so bad?B] This is why you are not logical. They know they are the #1 so they don't care just want to get through the plays they have to and get off, they have nothing to prove. When you are FIGHTING for a spot you try and impress. Now so you see :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Let's see.. Sun comes up... check. Sun goes down... check. Bruce Perry is out for the season before game 1.. check. Jake Plummer stinks and is throwing INTs... check. Drew Bledsoe is showing why his teams rarely win more than 8 games... check. All looks right to me. Let the season begin. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNabbOwnsFedEx Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by Hitman56 Brunell also has the second roundest head in league history behind Jon Kitna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by NoCalMike Plummer has looked HORRIBLE through two preseason games, however he was never really GREAT in the first place, and I think a lot of "experts" figured the "denver system" would take an average QB with a strong arm, and somehow transform him into an elite QB......LOL. But Peter King of CNNSI has him the 6th best QB in the league. How did that happen? Oh yea, when you play with Denver, your stock goes way up (ask Roland)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma This is why you are not logical. They know they are the #1 so they don't care just want to get through the plays they have to and get off, they have nothing to prove. When you are FIGHTING for a spot you try and impress. Now so you see :doh: you actually think they were goofing off, instead trying to work on getting ready for regular season? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 you actually think they were goofing off, instead trying to work on getting ready for regular season? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: whatever i understand for those that live in caves it is hard to see, put down photoshop and go see some sunlight :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Well booma, from the second floor of this condo complex I'm living in, the sunlight's pretty good. I'm going to go with that response as meaning you do actually believe that. So. Why? Know something we don't do ya? These are pro football players. And not just any pro players but Pro QB's. Let's set aside the possibility that the coaches may have added plays in,. tweeked some stuff here and there and it would be nice that the guy running the plays is on the same page. Can set aside how as competitors and leaders of their teams that just wouldn't look good to goof off. We can go with the possibility that as good as they are, nothing is guaranteed. One of the guys fighting for a job is the guy behind them. Now imagine him showing more effort and poise, and all kinds of other things while the starter is goofing off. As a coach, I just may have to look at that. Look at the debates we've had here recently. Nice example there. Mind you, could be a possibility there's some goofing off, but highly doubtful. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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