Angus Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Sentiments shared by a lot of Cowboys fans: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/stories/MYSA081104.01C.Oliver.15676ff3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Don't really want to register.... can you cut-and-paste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdru Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I too do not wish to register Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poidog22 Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by webpeznet Don't really want to register.... can you cut-and-paste? Agreed, a cut and paste version would be very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thito_da_skins_fan Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 It's not hard, it's impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Heck it hard not to love him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlskinsfan Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 cut and paste please so we dont have to register Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 ok, I didn't start this thread but I will cut and paste for you!! Richard Oliver: It's hard to muster hate for Joe Gibbs Web Posted: 08/11/2004 12:00 AM CDT San Antonio Express-News It's just not the same. Something's missing, and it leaves me feeling as lost and empty today as a discarded beer keg at a fraternity house. I miss the hate. The NFL season is upon us, bringing with it the same familiar promise of malevolence and antagonism that has captivated this Texas boy for decades. Like a squall line before a cold front, the emotions have usually rolled in with howling and thunder. But not today. The despised Redskins kicked off their preseason schedule on Monday night, and the occurrence hit with all the impact of a marshmallow dropped on felt. It was supposed to raise the usual bitter bile of loathing, to bring forth the comfortable contempt that has annually signaled the change from hot pavement to hot under the collar. I wanted the same old anger, bubbling up like volcanic magma, but instead felt nothing more than a dull irritation. Darn that Joe Gibbs. The Washington head coach is back, and is simply too classy, too respected, too dadgum likable to detest. It's not like yesteryear, when Gibbs was a young hothead engineering championship teams with brash confidence, allowing his players to march into Dallas dressed in Army fatigues, hogging NFC East titles by scaring the sneer off the likes of former Giants coach Bill Parcells. Now, Gibbs is a remarkable comeback story, a Hall of Famer who stood on the sideline at Canton, Ohio, looking like a sexagenarian Harry Potter, working his old magic to bring a moribund franchise back to life. He's a feel-good story, a warm-and-fuzzy backdrop for a cold and heartless sport. He looked, well, cute. In a startling evolution, I found myself rooting for Washington against Denver and its severe head coach, Mike Shanahan, who often has the pinched look of a man who just swallowed a bug. Following the Redskins' 20-17 victory, Gibbs was predictably pleasant and giddy, at one point unleashing that noted high-pitched giggle that sounds like a hyena on helium. Who can't appreciate that? For a football fan raised to view the Cowboys as heaven and Washington as something a markedly different zip code from that, the development ranked as nothing less than a spiritual rebirth. I haven't felt this kind of forgiveness in my heart since they brought red M&Ms back. It's a stark contrast to only a few months ago, when the arrogant Steve Spurrier still prowled Washington's fields, the smirk on his face hiding the apparent cluelessness behind it. He was a wonderful target for Cowboys fans, as was Marty Schottenheimer before that and Norv Turner before that. Even in Dallas' darkest hours, it has still managed to torture the 'Skins in recent seasons, and the venom flowed hot in veins pumping blue and silver. Like most Cowboys fans, I grew up conditioned to despise the Redskins, mostly by sitting before the television as a youngster as packs of snarling adults spat insults and the occasional profanity at the screen when the teams met, usually when former coach George Allen popped up. My divorced mother, who lifted up Dallas coach Tom Landry as a deified father figure for her impressionable young son, demonized the finger-licking, pompous Allen as a reviled challenger to all that was good and proper. If one of his thugs laid a hand on Roger Staubach, well, hell's got a spot for coaches like that. The years changed, but the enmity didn't. Despising the Redskins became a rite of fall as natural as falling temperatures and the opening day of school. Even today, I have a special place in my heart for former Giants linebacker Lawrence Taylor, who was nice enough to fall on the lower leg of Joe Theismann in 1983, breaking it and effectively ending the Washington quarterback's career. Where's the forgiveness? Hey, one Redskin at a time. Now, along comes Gibbs, who left his NASCAR racing team behind when Redskins owner Daniel Snyder showered him with enough money to wallpaper the Washington Monument. As a result, Washington is suddenly the NFL's sweetest story, and I'm left bitter. Still, there's a sliver of hope out there. Philadelphia is a pit of a town, and the Eagles strike me as kind of haughty. And that Terrell Owens? A noted Cowboys antagonist. I hate that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdru Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by afparent In a startling evolution, I found myself rooting for Washington against Denver and its severe head coach, Mike Shanahan, who often has the pinched look of a man who just swallowed a bug. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Likewise, it was hard to hate Tom Landry. (but...uh... somehow I managed to back then...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyBomber Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Believe me, when the rivarly gets reactivated (that's right, 'cause they've been owning us lately), they'll feel the bile rise. And yes, it is possible to 'love to hate' someone. If I'd had the chance, I'd shake Landry's hand and tell him I (1) have great respect for him and his organization and (2) I hate his guts whenever he's standing on a sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Yeah, this article summed up my feeling for Landry. I understand where they are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I have a feeling we could end up as the most popular and liked team this year....IF WE WIN...I see people jumping on our bandwagon because of the obvious likeability of Coach Gibbs and a few of our extrovert players like Clinton Portis. I will even go as far as to say if we were to make it to the Superbowl, we as underdogs would be huge fan favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTaylor42 Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I felt the same way about Tom Landry. As much as I WANTED to hate that man, I couldn't! I think a lot of Cowboy fans feel the same way about Joe Gibbs. I was really p!ssed when Jerah fired him! He was the only one from the Cowboys organization that I respected. I have a feeling they will start hating us again after week 3, not Joe Gibbs, but the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I would put Emmitt Smith in this same category. I hated him because he was a Skins killer, but I had respect for him as a player and stand up guy. Well at least until he went to the Cardinals....lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Actually, I also find it hard to hate Bill Parcells. I did hate him when he was the Giants coach, but he's just done too much in his career and is too much of a character for me to hate him now. Jerry Jones and the rest still get a full-on, venomous LOATHING from me at ALL times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Kao Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I coudln't have put it any better either. That does sum up my feelings for Landry.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by Chachie Actually, I also find it hard to hate Bill Parcells. I did hate him when he was the Giants coach, but he's just done too much in his career and is too much of a character for me to hate him now. Jerry Jones and the rest still get a full-on, venomous LOATHING from me at ALL times. I'm of Japanese lineage and I hate Bill Parcells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I hated Tom Landry and his Cowboys. Hated the arrogance of "America's Team". But I respected him and the team he built. I easily rooted for the Landry Cowboys agaisnt the Steelers. The Cowboys and Stauback respresented the good, the Steelers with Bradshaw represented the bad and the ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXREDSKINS44 Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Nice article I always had respect for Landry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Group hug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by Kilmer I hated Tom Landry and his Cowboys. Hated the arrogance of "America's Team". But I respected him and the team he built. I easily rooted for the Landry Cowboys agaisnt the Steelers. The Cowboys and Stauback respresented the good, the Steelers with Bradshaw represented the bad and the ugly. I rooted for Dallas once in my life. NFC Championship against the 49ers in 81. Didn't know anything about the 49ers cause they sucked before then. I figured I would root for an NFC East team. they let me down then too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Following the Redskins' 20-17 victory, Gibbs was predictably pleasant and giddy, at one point unleashing that noted high-pitched giggle that sounds like a hyena on helium. Who can't appreciate that? Now that's a line to remember. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by afparent Even today, I have a special place in my heart for former Giants linebacker Lawrence Taylor, who was nice enough to fall on the lower leg of Joe Theismann in 1983, breaking it and effectively ending the Washington quarterback's career. Yeah, even today, I have a special place in my heart for all those Eagles fans that cheered when Michael Irvin broke his neck in the Vet, essentially ending his career... Aside from that remark, it was a good article & funny at times, but just like a Cowboys fan, he had to say something like THAT to bring me back to my belief that all Cowboys fans are in some way, inhuman! :wewantd: :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :wewantd: :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :wewantd: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmart Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Of course a Dallas fan couldn't be expected to know the real year Joe was hurt by LT {1985}. Ahh well, if they were smart they would be Skins fans now wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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