Lavarleap56 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 He said that there are whispers [perhaps from Dave Wannstadt?] that Ogunleye has given an "edict" to get a deal done (which seems curious since the Dolphins' current woes figure to be playing in O-Gun's favor). Clayton added that if a deal does come down, don't be surprised if it's with the Redskins (shocker) who are "waiting in the weeds" and need a pass rush, especially in a year with the rule changes in the secondary make a pass rush absolutely essential for success. Clayton said he didn't see a current DE on their line getting 13 sacks this year, and it might be a feat for any 3 DL on the team to combine for that number.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBkilla56 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 OHHHHHH SNAP!!!! But who we going to deal to the fish? A 7th rounder for him? (yes that is sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljaofjesus Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 interesting. I think we will ge t it done. I belive in the redskins. we dont' need o-gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 hmm... this situation has been going far too long without some sort of resolution. It's safe to say that we are interested but Miami hasn't bitten yet. Let's hope they do because while i'm not as skeptical about the D-line as Clayton is (because we can get sacks from our LBs), it's still a pronounced weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 well, seems like one of those threads again. I think itd be awesome to have him, but I really dont want another high profile contract unless we can get rid of a few first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Taylor Jacobs, Betts and a conditonal draft pick would work for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinned Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I have also read that Keenan McCardell is also a possible trade interest of the Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I think we should ask the Phins to make an offer to us, as not to overspend for this guy. I have really grown comforatable with the team cohesion since Gibbs returned. I'm not exactly sure I want to see any of the players we currently have exit on the heels of something special. We must remember that the team can't be built in one offseason. I'd like to see how well the players he have are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins_SF Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I'm not so sure that we should disrupt team chemistry by trading for an out of shape defensive end. I wouldn't make any hasty decisions just yet. We should sit back and watch our current players for a couple of games, before we decide that we need an upgrade at defensive end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by Redskins_SF We should sit back and watch our current players for a couple of games, before we decide that we need an upgrade at defensive end. That is precisely what is happening here...but there is definitely a lot of smoke about this subject. We are waiting to assess our pass-rush situation. I don't think team chemistry will be affected much, even if we do give up a high-profile player, such as Gardner. Gibbs has this team in control, and if he wants that move, then this whole team will buy into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoSkins Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by freakofthenorth That is precisely what is happening here...but there is definitely a lot of smoke about this subject. We are waiting to assess our pass-rush situation. I don't think team chemistry will be affected much, even if we do give up a high-profile player, such as Gardner. Gibbs has this team in control, and if he wants that move, then this whole team will buy into it. I think that after Monday, you are going to hear alot more about this. I doubt that our pass rush against Denver will do anything to alleviate our fears or to silence our critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 The Fins would be looking for a Boston caliber replacement, and the only person that comes close is Gardener or Coles, both of which I would hope we keep. Last year it wouldn't have surprised me to see Snyder trade off gardener and a draft pick, but with Gibbs back, I seriously doubt that will happen. Trade Betts? blasphemy!! Crazier things have happened:insane: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octane67 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Still plenty of time to get him in shape (if he is not already....) and we will see tonight if we even have what resembles a D-line. I think it could be a long night trying to stop the run. I think we may see Rock/betts go and possibly mcants/jacobs....RB-WR for the DE.....throwing in anymore is overpaying...IMHO If it is Rock and Mcants both have starters experience.....doubt they will get more from anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzlightbeer81 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 i saw the phines are ready to call it a year, and will be very willing to trade for picks so they can regroup and rebuild for next year. Gibbs doesnt do much in drafts, is that correct? i heard that somewhere, so it seems that perhaps a trade could be done using mostly draft picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzlightbeer81 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 ok wow, bad typo there, i didnt SEE it anywhere they were ready to call it a year, i meant it seems they might be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrunkin Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I still think our DE's can be better with the addition of Cornelius Griffin....it's much better to have DT's who stuff the run and collapse the pocket...they do so much more for a D-line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romberjo Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 We've been over this hundreds of times before, but why not.... A) "Out of shape"? Who says, and so what; training camp has been going on for a week. If we could get him for the right price, his not having been in camp w/ the Dolphins for a few days is completely irrelevant. I don't think the Dolphins would have any interest in Jacobs. They need someone who can step in this season, not a promising prospect down the road. And we have Jacobs locked up for a few years for cheap, so should keep him. Gardner, though not a great #1, would go very nicely with Chambers -- and he's only under contract for one more year, and he's not good enough to franchise, so we don't have much leverage to keep him beyond this year and thus wouldn't lose much by trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskns21 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I think that the longer Daniels is sidelined, the more interested we will be in Ogunleye. We will probably have to give up Gardner plus a pick to get him, but that is definately worth it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 not happening ..... move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montilar Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Well, didn't they also lose a safety to a season ending injury? Chris Atkins? If Ohalete's gone from first string to 3rd stringer this year, seems a safety such as Ohalete or Lott might be an option as well.... I don't expect anything along these lines to change. Ogunlaye is a pipe dream we'd all like to see but it's got about a 1 percent chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthro Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I agree with bubba. I really don't see this deal baing made. I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong, though. If Monday comes and goes, and our defense shows some nice creativity in the pass rush while still being effective against the underneath stuff, then we're in a very good position.... However, if thigns get ugly for us up front, then we're going to show our desparation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I'll say it again, who ever thought we would be going into this season with Clinton Portis as our running back? I won't be shocked at all if we get Ogun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurst Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 not happening ..... move on The Dolphins are not intrested in moving a rare/valued commodity. They can get a nice reciever pretty easily, much easier to find than a good/great DE. It's just not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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