Commander Adama Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Personally I love what we have done so far. I think Taylor is a huge threat in the backfield helping Springs and Smoot to make a great secondary. Also, Cooley was a finalist for the Mackey Award. He's a phenomenal receiver as well as a great blocker. A fantastic H-Back for Gibbs offense. In 2003, Cooley was a first-team All-Sun Belt Conference selection. As team captain, he earned a share of the team's Offensive MVP honors and was a finalist for the Mackey Award (given to the nation's top tight end). For the season, he recorded 62 receptions for 732 yards and six touchdowns. Known more for his receiving skills, Cooley is also regarded as an excellent blocker. He twice earned the Aggies' Golden Helmet Award honors as the team's hardest hitter. In his collegiate career, Cooley has appeared in 31 games on offense, starting 15 games, and has hauled in 95 passes for 1,255 yards and 11 touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 So far i am very please with what has happened. Couldnt have gotten Jones instead of Taylor, So took Taylor and made the Trade for the Guy they wanted. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted April 25, 2004 Author Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by SkinsandTerps So far i am very please with what has happened. Couldnt have gotten Jones instead of Taylor, So took Taylor and made the Trade for the Guy they wanted. Nice. I was thinking that. I think the Kellen Winslow-Sean Jones combination would have cost the Redskins a ton more than it cost for Sean Taylor-Chris Cooley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by Displaced Redskin Fan I was thinking that. I think the Kellen Winslow-Sean Jones combination would have cost the Redskins a ton more than it cost for Sean Taylor-Chris Cooley. Of course it would have . Jones (IMO) was the second best safety in the Draft. He went high enough where the Skins would have had to mortgage probably next years #1 just to get in that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I think it's hard not to be excited by what we've added so that's fantastic. That we have so little ammunition is frustrating. But, if you want to really put the draft into perspective, you can say that for our draft picks thusfar we've gotten the services of Taylor, Portis, Brunell and Cooley. If you can forget how boring it is to have so few picks, you can really get excited about how we've used our picks at least . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by Art I think it's hard not to be excited by what we've added so that's fantastic. That we have so little ammunition is frustrating. But, if you want to really put the draft into perspective, you can say that four our draft picks thusfar we've gotten the services of Taylor, Portis, Brunell and Cooley. If you can forget how boring it is to have so few picks, you can really get excited about how we've used our picks at least . Art funny you should say that. That is exactly what i was explaining on my draft board. 1 -Taylor 2- Portis 3- Brunell 3b - Cooley Cant get a much better draft day than that IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Taylor's a given, but I love this Cooley move. A Gibbs player all the way. He won't do what Winslow would have, but he'll definately help and add that type of blue collar work ethic that'll make Coles, Portis and Co. better. I love this draft so far and if the FO can land a contributor (pass rush specialist or DT project who makes the team and has an effect) then this draft was brilliant with the limited number of picks and needs we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 The whole offseason has me slightly off. I think we overpaid for Portis. I think we overpaid for Brunell. I think that Taylor will be good/great, but that his ramification to the cap and to positions of greater need could really harm us. Cooley probably was picked at a reasonable place and fills one of our smaller needs. I still feel that our biggest weakness has been all but ignored during the offseason (pressuring the qb) The only new guy we got who can do that is a linebacker and I don't know if we exclusively want to depend on blitz for pressure. The major aquisitions I like, but the cost both in terms of dollars, picks, and other options temper my enthusiasm. On top of which I liked the Iffy story. He's an overachiever and an underdog and I would have liked to see him stay as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisbob74 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 On reflection I love it!! We got the best player avaliable at #5 and he filled a need. We added Cooley in the 3rd and although he's no soldier he can come in and be part of the rotation at TE/H-Back straight away. Many will be a little disappointed with the lack of help the DL has received thus far, but considering the way many of those players have slipped in the draft, it seems to be proof that the position(s) in general suffered from a lack of qualitity but not quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I like the Taylor pick and aquiring Cooley was a good move, I just wish that the DL was addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissarmy47 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by Burgold On top of which I liked the Iffy story. He's an overachiever and an underdog and I would have liked to see him stay as a starter. It could well end up that Taylor plays FS and Bowen and Iffy compete for SS. The other being the first guy in off the bench for either spot. I wouldn't mind that. Bowen is supposively a more natural SS so hopefully he'll improve his contribution with the move if he is the starter. At the same point, I personally think Iffy contributed more last year - feel like Bowen was sup-par and Iffy was "okay" but not really "good" as the SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissarmy47 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by SkinsNorth I like the Taylor pick and aquiring Cooley was a good move, I just wish that the DL was addressed. You can't fix every problem all at once! We had a 1st, 5th and 6th - and came away with a star and a solid propect on day one - and still have the 5th and 5th to hopefully add a little depth and maybe a special teams guy or two. Not bad. I agree that we still need a pass rushing DT or DE, but sheesh people I'm way more pleased with the two positions we have addressed than I am displeased with the one that still remains. I'm not so sure there were really any great DT prospects worth picking up in this draft. I also feel pretty good with that being pretty much the one remaining hole to fill - and it is still April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzlightbeer81 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 So people seem pleased with the Skins moves thus far, and I am of the same mind. I dont know much about Cooley but Gibbs is known for finding those players that have the intangibles later in the draft, maybe hes one of them. So what about Dallas? Am I the only one who is shocked by their move yesterday not taking the top RB in the draft when they had the chance. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 The overall team need was defense. They covered that with perhaps the best defensive player in this draft. Taylor elevates the Redskins backfield to a very high level. Bringing a guy like Taylor in after losing a corner like Champ was a great move IMO. They filled their need for an H-back with Cooley. Cooley may be a little raw but I feel the Redskins coaches can and will have him ready to contribute this year. So far, the team has addressed its few needs nicely. I'd give them a B for their efforts so far. With so few picks it's hard to grade them any higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 We did OK we got the guy we were after in Sean Taylor, but the Cooley trade has me confused. I mean, is he really better than the tight ends that we have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 can't answer until I see the player on the field. while one has to believe that no matter who you draft you're getting at star with the 5th overall pick......I'm waiting on a few details before drawing any conslusions: 1) Williams has ssaid that Taylor is great for his defense because of his speed/range; that this will free up the other dbs for run support. that, of course, raises the issue of how good the other dbs/safetries are in this role. 2) And I hope I'm wrong on this one.....I noticed from the tape I asw on the idiot box - admittedly limitted - that Taylor likes to deliver every tackle as a blow with his shoulders. I have yet to see film clips of him wrapping a player up and drilling him back into the ground. This could be a bad thing at this level....or could limit his use to mostly pass defense. too early to say. 3) Cooley is ok....and likey an improvement over what we have.......but I don't see him bringing much to the table other than a blocker and someone who can catch a few passes down by the goal line. too slow to scare anyone downfield. a huge, huge delta between him and KW2. which translates to a very big difference in how the offensive strategy could have been designed. so.........I think the Taylor draft really doesn't assume full value until we see how he fits into an overall defense AFTER we fill gaps Jun 1 or next year. only then will we understand how he fits into the overall defensive scheme manned by all the people Williams needs. If his tackling is suspect, and given the ball control receivers in our dvision, I think we will absolutely have to get some big run-stopping mountains up front to make it all work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 We had a great day 1. I can't wait until we see what Gibbs pulls out of the late rounders and the undrafted FA's. They have all the players graded and each year some gold nuggets fall through the minning sifter. We will get some good players this way. That was Joe's forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Originally posted by SkinsandTerps Art funny you should say that. That is exactly what i was explaining on my draft board. 1 -Taylor 2- Portis 3- Brunell 3b - Cooley Cant get a much better draft day than that IMO. If you want to do it like that then but the $$ next to each. So what we get Portis with a second round pick but he costs us $50 million where that second would have only cost us maybe a couple million. Yes we got great players, but we haven't gotten any cheap young players and that is why it is important to have draft picks. Hopefully next year we will have more then 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 we have definitely traded our picks for better players this year. Brunell, Portis, Cooley, id take them any day over Haley, Dung, Morton, Bowen(though I dont mind him), Zellner I believe. We just went after studs and not people who may do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfdc Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I will of course down grade the opinion if we don't take at least 1 D Lineman, particularly a DE to press the living crap out of a passer. If we get a DT, I can wait until the released wide bodies after June 1. We could take one each, but as long as its a D Lineman, cool. If not, I do have to wonder, but still trust these guys to do the right thing. The draft is mainly "developmental" in nature. Only a small percentage start every game, play a whole season or even pan out for over 3 -5 years. Don't put your heart into that or it will break soon. Just watch and learn for goodness and stop putting the Gibbs/Williams/Bugel group in the Marty, Norv, Spurrier eras. You guys are in for a real treat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 If I had to give a grade it would be C-. Taylor is an excellent choice, far better than KW2 (and the Poston's). We needed defensive help, and no DL was worth such a high pick. I had hoped we could have traded down. I know everyone wants to trade down, but seeing all of the trades on day1, why couldn't we pull the trigger? Cooley is a good, solid pick, but we overpaid to get him. A #2 next year is way too pricey, IMHO. Combine that with overpaying for Portis, and we have to conclude that our FO got the short end of the stick in both cases. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citigent Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 im very please , i think you have to include trade with the picks like last year since its pretty much like we drafted some vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 The draft isn't over, so I can't make that desicion right now. But I'll tell you this, I like what I see so far. And that's being calm about it. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXREDSKINS44 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 For the amount of Picks we had or there a lack of picks, I think we did a made out very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloryDays2k4 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 :laugh: Cooley was a great move, he has the right attitude for the position instead of KW2 who is a "feed me" player. Taylor was a no brainer IMO. He is simply a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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