Thinking Skins Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Whats the status of Mr. Russell right about now? Has he been signed at all this offseason? I'd be interested in hearing if Gibbs agrees with Cerrato's statement earlier that we dont want him? Isn't it kinda a doublestandard that we dont want him back, but we do want Chamberland back? I kinda wish he coulda gotten a better shot at making the team last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I thought Russell had potential and could have helped us this year. With our new coaching staff they may have been able to motivate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Originally posted by blakman211 Isn't it kinda a doublestandard that we dont want him back, but we do want Chamberland back? . why, what did Chamberland do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 He didn't want to play for that bum Spurrier either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiskin Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Rumor has it down here in Florida that the Bucs will probably bring him. He played for Gruden in Oakland, and Gruden apparently doesn't have a problem with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Russell is young and can be productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Russell and Chamberlain both had been suspended by the NFL in the past for drug issues. Their problem last year was that Vinny wanted them and SS didn't. So SS didn't give them a chance to really play. Russell got discouraged and showed late for practices/meetings and was let go. He got a second chance and didn't do everything in his power to make the most of it. Chamberlain did what he was asked to do so he's still with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Chamberlain is the only player the Redskins have right now at TE that has pass receiving skills. That doesn't mean that he will be on the opening day roster. Remember that #5 pick could turn out to be Kellen Winslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Royal has shown flashes of being a good receiver at te -- he just hasn't stayed healthy for two years in a row. Ware is a good prospect too. It's still early. But when Chamberlain was motivated, in shape, and off drugs wasn't he a probowler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 he was a pro bowler ONCE in his 8 NFL seasons. just because a guy has ONE good year doesn't mean he remains a 'pro bowler' for the rest of his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 You're right BD - just because he has shown a high degree of talent in the past doesn't mean squat today. But we do know that he has done it in the past so it's more possible to contemplate him doing it in the future than from someone who has never done it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I don't have the full stats on recall but I seem to remember Chamberlain posting numbers like 57 catches and around 800 yards in 2001 for the Vikings, a team with Moss, Carter and Robert Smith as primary options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Both Russell and Chamberlain are bums, and they're most definitely not core Redskin guys. They are the quintissential Spurrier scrubs. We don't need either one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 chamberlain may be more lazy and not as great a player. However, I am all for getting Russell again, give him the chance and he probably could be huge again. A 2 time pro bowler doesnt come cheap usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Russell is a good player and he would help our DL big time if we signed him and he had a full offseason to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manichispanic Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 i thought I read somewhere that Tampa wanted to give him a 1 year deal for league min......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Russell was rumored to be using cocaine and involved in borderline criminality being charges were unproven against him. Chamberlain was suspended for using ephedra in the offseason, a dietary supplement. BIG DIFFERENCE. Russell's all pro season's were like 4 years ago. Ancient history. ephedra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnacpa Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Inmate ... you are correct, very different issues suspending them from the league. Plus, Russell's problems with respect for the coaching staff as well as Trotter's tattle tale to the media last year told Gibbs who has been demonstrating actions publicly detrimental to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manichispanic Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Originally posted by bnacpa Inmate ... you are correct, very different issues suspending them from the league. Plus, Russell's problems with respect for the coaching staff as well as Trotter's tattle tale to the media last year told Gibbs who has been demonstrating actions publicly detrimental to the team. Trotter's tattle tale?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 What did Trotter say and about whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnacpa Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Trotter is the one last year who went public about cell phones in team meetings going off and the complete lack of discipline within the organization. After that, numerous players like Jansen joined in, but Trotter was the first with his frustrations. I would have to imagine that when a team sees a player airing dirty laundry to the media and it isn't about a business/contract dispute, they have even less tolerance for that kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEB Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Russell is a poor character guy....not a "Gibbs-Guy". He had the issues with getting caught taking Ecstacy. During his suspension he had sexual assault charges brought against (that were eventually dropped)him for a situation in which Russell video'ed some of his friends allegedly raping a woman. There was no denial about video taping the sex acts, just whether it was consentual or not......definitely not something that Gibbs is looking for. Gibbs said he wanted players that first and foremost would not embarrass the Skins right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J33Edwards Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I think Russell's troubles are in the past but his probowl days may be as well. I wouldn't mind the team getting him back. He is cheap and even if he doesn't become a starter he should at least provide above average depth. I don't think he'll be back though. I think Tampa is very likely like others have said in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 One thing you can expect from the Coach is that he wants players with character - not characters that play. Although, he has had experience with characters on his roster (Dexter, Riggo) even they knew the Coach's boundries. I don't beleive Russell would have been brought in last year if the Coach was here already. Look at his quotes this year "core group" "intelligent players" - I don't look for him to compromise his ethics to plug a whole in the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum Russell was rumored to be using cocaine and involved in borderline criminality being charges were unproven against him. Chamberlain was suspended for using ephedra in the offseason, a dietary supplement. BIG DIFFERENCE. Russell's all pro season's were like 4 years ago. Ancient history. ephedra Exactly. Chamberlain was taking to try to shed some of the extra weight he accumalated. He never was given a chance in Spurrier's system, mostly because I don't think Spurrier knew how to use TE's. I think (hope) he turns out to be back to form with us, now that there's a more competent coaching staff, because he can block and catch and could turn out to be an important role player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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