Chrisbob74 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I liked Gus in his first spell here, sure, he did some dumb things, butting a wall is never clever but he was a gamer, a guy who would give his all and as a back up QB I would be happy to see him back here. He would help Patrick and know his place plus when he has served as a back-up in the past and being asked to come in, he has done pretty well for the Vikes, Broncos and Lions (Bengals we poor all round when he was there). I think he is a FA, anyone confirm? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I'd take him. His only weak spot is getting spooked by constant pass rush, which I don't think will be the same problem now that it was in 98. He outplayed Culpepper this year, if you ask me. Smart and strong arm. He reminds me of Schroeder, an average QB who could look great in this system. I'd definitely take him over any of the other scrubs being thrown around, cuz we ain't coughing up the big bucks for Brunell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Very bad Mojo I'm afraid. To see Frerotte back with Gibbs as coach would be too unsettling for fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 If Gibbs insists on a veteran QB, I would look at Ferrotte, Griese or Flutie at the veteran minimum. I still like Hasselbeck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkowi Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 does this mean i can wear my "I'M FOR FERROTTE" t-shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan44 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Minnesota covets Taylor of Miami...it is said that he should be available at #5 when the skins pick...that being said the Skins would be well served to ask for Gus in a swap of picks...with Minnesota's...in the 18-19 range...Gus still is under contract this season for whatever portion of the 2 yr. deal he signed last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 :no: There are better backups... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Actually, Gus coming off the bench has been money. Its only under the pressure of being the 'starter' that he's seemed to frequently wilt or self-destruct. Wouldn't be thrilled with him, personally I think Gibbs could do wonders with Tim H. and may decide to keep him around once he gets a better look at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I say stick with Hasslebeck. Frerotte would be a good back-up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan44 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Hasselback is Spurrier leftovers...he had a decent run...but lacks the arm that Gabriel was blessed with...a Veteran back-up last season and Joe might not have been able to be in the position to return...If Daniel would have had to fire Spurrier...Joe would not have been available. I think Cordell with some Gibbs experience under his belt would be worth something...in year or two ...and in demand around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I would look for a strong armed backup. Frerotte would be ok, Hasselbeck I don't think would be a good fit. Besides the arm, cap implications and our ability to spell their last name need to be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlinginSammy HOF '63 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Frerotte would be cheaper than a trip to a Bangkok brothel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 :gus: ? :gus:??! :gus:?!!!! No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I don't understand all the talk about a veteren back up. Let's keep Hasselbeck, he's cheap, and he's as good as anyone else. It's not like we need a pro bowler to come in when we're beatin the crap outta the cowboys next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaping lizzy Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I kinda liked Gus when he was here last. But I say keep Hasselbeck, he's cheaper. Matt wasn't looked at as a very good QB in the past and this year he probably should have gone to the pro-bowl. Tim won't ever be as good as his brother, but it's in the blood and I say we don't need to worry much about a back-up. I predict Pat won't miss a snap all season!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Why not? This guy showed he could step in last year, and we have a team rather similar to Minnesota's with a explosive receiver and fast backs. It would be more than interesting to see him back in a Skins uniform. And for those who want Hasselbeck as our second string... Did you guys watch the last 5-6 games? He proved he couldn't shoulder an offense whatsoever and cannot finish. There's no way he should be quarterbacking the team at any point next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I'd take Gus. He's fine as long as the game isn't a big important all or nothing type game. He gets that "deer in the headlights" look in big games, but if he has to come off the bench, he does fine. If he has to start for a short period, he's fine. Everyone saw his eye popping performance for the Vikings vs SF this year, and before you jump on "it's randy Moss" remember he's also led the Lions into the playoffs (Where we crushed him ... big game..) ANd he also co-holds the Broncos single game TD pass record in a game he started in relief. If he's called to action he's fine. Gus also has a really good attitude and is a team player. We've seen him handle himself thru ups and downs with class. Remember Jeff Rutledge. Under everyone else he was a mediocre QB at best, and under Gibbs he was a mediocre QB ... but when called on, he won football games. Any real difference? ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Originally posted by TODD And for those who want Hasselbeck as our second string... Did you guys watch the last 5-6 games? He proved he couldn't shoulder an offense whatsoever and cannot finish. There's no way he should be quarterbacking the team at any point next year. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: wait you're serious. TH stepped in a complicated offense, at MIDSEASON, and put up some very good numbers (sans Dallas). 1012 177 95 5 7 63.6% obviously you didn't watch all his games, he played more than well enough to win in all but the Dallas game. He didn't play defense. Opp RESULT GS Att Comp Pct Yds TD Int Rate 11/23 @Miami L 23-24 No 30 15 50.0 150 1 1 61.8 11/30 New Orleans L 20-24 Yes 42 22 52.4 231 0 1 58.7 12/07 @New York W 20-7 Yes 19 13 68.4 154 2 0 128.0 12/14 Dallas L 0-27 Yes 26 6 23.1 56 0 4 0.00 12/21 @Chicago L 24-27 Yes 25 16 64.0 209 2 0 116.9 12/27 Philadelphia L 7-31 Yes 32 21 65.6 192 0 1 68.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I doubt you will see Hasselbeck back as the #2. He may stay on the roster to compete through the spring and early summer, but I don't expect to see him on the opening day roster. The Redskins will be looking for a backup to Ramsey that has a better arm and more NFL experience. Hasselbeck seems best suited to a WCO and after his decent performances here in 2003 should get a shot elsewhere as a backup such as Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I can't even believe someone suggested Griese. If Ramsey went down, you guys would be done with Griese as your backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 people latch onto names Griese is still a name after just one good season out of five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 If we put our faith in Joe Gibbs coaching a decent, able QB, why not go after someone else who shows promise? We already know Ferotte can be a decent back-up, just not start - but what if he needs to start a game or two? - That's enough to scare me. We should look at guys like Todd Bauman, preferbly, or maybe even Doug Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 are you serious? we are in trouble if we sign Frerotte and he has to start a few games in 2004 but we will be fine letting Doug Johnson start? :laugh: :laugh: how many Falcons games did you watch last year? Johnson was so ineffective he was benched for #3 Kurt Kittner who had never even taken an NFL snap! Frerotte is not my idea of nirvana but he is a Super Bowl MVP candidate when compared to Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog I doubt you will see Hasselbeck back as the #2. He may stay on the roster to compete through the spring and early summer, but I don't expect to see him on the opening day roster. The Redskins will be looking for a backup to Ramsey that has a better arm and more NFL experience. Hasselbeck seems best suited to a WCO and after his decent performances here in 2003 should get a shot elsewhere as a backup such as Green Bay. we'll see. Too many people have a misconception about whats a Gibbs type player, and or his QBs. As I posted before Gibbs backups rarely where seasoned veterans only two were former starters out of three veteran qbs total out of 12 years. Many of his backups were far from the strong arm bombers. Hasselback fits Gibbs mode of character, intellegence, a player with passion for winning and giving 100%. He is all ready under contract at minimum. Bringing in a another QB everyone expects would take some cap space that maybe too much of a luxury compared to what we already have at QB. Hasslelback will be on the roster if not #2 at least #3. list of Gibbs QB's you will see that Many were right out of College, with little playing experience (except Williams, Hart, and Rutledge) and though his starters after Theisman had cannons, most of the backups did not (except Williams, Schroerder, and Rypien before they became starters) 1981 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 12 Flick, Tom QB 190 6'2 23 Washington 7 Theismann, Joe QB 192 6'0 32 Notre Dame 1982-83 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 8 Holly, Bob QB 197 6'2 22 Princeton 7 Theismann, Joe QB 192 6'0 33 Notre Dame 1984 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 17 Hart, Jim QB 215 6'1 40 Southern Illinois 7 Theismann, Joe QB 192 6'0 35 Notre Dame 1985 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 10 Schroeder, Jay QB 215 6'4 24 UCLA 7 Theismann, Joe QB 192 6'0 36 Notre Dame 1986 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 10 Schroeder, Jay QB 215 6'4 25 UCLA 17 Williams, Doug QB 220 6'4 31 Grambling State 1987 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 15 Robinson, Tony QB 200 6'3 23 Tennessee* 16 Rubbert, Ed QB 225 6'5 23 Louisville* 10 Schroeder, Jay QB 215 6'4 26 UCLA 17 Williams, Doug QB 220 6'4 32 Grambling State 1988 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 15 Archer, David QB 207 6'2 26 Iowa State 11 Rypien, Mark QB 231 6'4 26 Washington State 17 Williams, Doug QB 220 6'4 33 Grambling State 1989 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 16 Humphries, Stan QB 223 6'2 24 Northeast Louisiana 11 Rypien, Mark QB 231 6'4 27 Washington State 17 Williams, Doug QB 220 6'4 34 Grambling State 1990-91 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 16 Humphries, Stan QB 223 6'2 25 Northeast Louisiana 10 Rutledge, Jeff QB 195 6'1 33 Alabama 11 Rypien, Mark QB 231 6'4 28 Washington State 1992 Roster # Name Position Weight Height Age College 12 Conklin, Cary QB 220 6'4 24 Washington 10 Rutledge, Jeff QB 195 6'1 35 Alabama 11 Rypien, Mark QB 231 6'4 30 Washington State * Strike Players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 yeah, BUT of those many quarterbacks you listed only two, Jay Schoeder and Mark Rypien ascended to prominence with the Redskins from a backup role as a draft choice or younger undrafted free agent. and both of those players DID have strong arms and a 6'3, 6'4 frame to boot. well, I guess you can throw in Stan Humphries too although he only became a starter after being traded to SD, but we did develop him for 3 years here. Flick, Holly, Hakel, etc.........on down the line...........these guys were mostly holders for extra points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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