redskinss Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Koolblue13 said: Terry isn't a captain? My bad if not. I don't know if he is that wasn't what I was saying. We're just not on the same page here. I heard that Rivera spoke to his captains, meaning all of them, and its hard for me to assume a conversation amongst a group would result in the assumption that Terry wanted wentz just because he was part of a group conversation that resulted in that decision. For all we know he could have been the lone voice of opposition. I wouldn't guess he was just saying we don't really know what Terry's opinion was based off the information we have. But again I'm working off only what I've read here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCalSkins said: Wentz looked great in the limited time against the 49ers. Maybe his time on the bench was the kick in the butt he needed plus he hasn’t been in this type of offense before so the extra time couldn’t have hurt. I love Heinicke but he should have been benched after the Giants tie during the bye. Wentz looked like a legit NFL qb. The keyword here is "limited". Will see how he does with full 60 minutes of football and how much chemistry he has with Terry since he practiced more with Jahan while Terry was going through his negotiations. I would like both to have TDs on Sunday while in the redzone. Why did Ron wait so long? Did he wanted to see Taylor fail first and then switch to say to Taylor you did good but we need Wentz now? I am not against the switch and I know we are in the playoffs hunt and all cards needs to be on table (like I have said before) so hopefully it pays off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 For the record, Terry IS a captain. Why wouldn’t he be, he’s terry. How DARE you question his captainhood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, redskinss said: I don't know if he is that wasn't what I was saying. We're just not on the same page here. I heard that Rivera spoke to his captains, meaning all of them, and its hard for me to assume a conversation amongst a group would result in the assumption that Terry wanted wentz just because he was part of a group conversation that resulted in that decision. For all we know he could have been the lone voice of opposition. I wouldn't guess he was just saying we don't really know what Terry's opinion was based off the information we have. But again I'm working off only what I've read here. That's fair. I don't know if he meant offensive captains. All of them. I don't know if it was one at a time or a round table. I also didn't realize Wentz was a captain for some reason. But I am going to assume that if he talked to Terry, Logan and Leno and came away with starting Wentz, that their opinions mattered about it. If it was a toss up and Ron chose, I'm wrong, but if they leaned towards Wentz, I'm sure it mattered. If they were defiantly against Heini, no way Ron Chose Wentz. Quarterback Carson Wentz, wide receiver Terry McLaurin, tight end Logan Thomas and offensive tackle Charles Leno Jr. represent the offense. Defensive tackle Jonathan Allen, linebacker Cole Holcomb and cornerback Kendall Fuller are the defensive captains. Longtime punter Tress Way represents the special teams. 2 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: For the record, Terry IS a captain. Why wouldn’t he be, he’s terry. How DARE you question his captainhood! Why would you think that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: WTF is wrong with you two? Are you one of those guys who feels insulted when being corrected...to the point that you don't like seeing others corrected, either? lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, Panninho said: Lol that's not a real quote OK, if so wonder if it was someone having fun with Sam (who is a good radio interview with his thick Irish accent) negatitve or positive takes on Kirk. Poking around I gather having fun with his positive quotes. Regardless, it doesn't influence my point. Vikings already with 12 wins, more than our team has had since the SB. But the onus would be on him to win in the playoffs especially against his old team. So if its Wentz-Kirk the drama on this thread would be a ton of fun. Make it happen Carson! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: Are you one of those guys who feels insulted when being corrected...to the point that you don't like seeing others corrected, either? lol... Are you one of those guys that likes banging his head against an unwavering wall? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMK9973 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I think this is the wrong move. TH gives us the best hope to win now and even last week, TH looked Really good until the back to back turnovers (Only 1 I think is his fault). Wentz had a great TD pass, but everything else was short dumps offs against a prevent defense giving up the short dump offs. BUT - I hope I am wrong and even better -I really hope this is a Doug Williams Situation. Doug Williams is remembered as this great Redskins QB but in truth, he was 0-2 as a starter in the 87 season who came in off the bench in the last game of the season and got hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: If it was a toss up and Ron chose, I'm wrong, but if they leaned towards Wentz, I'm sure it mattered. If they were defiantly against Heini, no way Ron Chose Wentz. I think the simpler answer would be that they told Ron whatever you decide coach we will play hard for either one. I would imagine they are not going to put Taylor under the bus and they shouldn't. They are all teammates and respect each other one has to think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, redskinss said: I don't know if he is that wasn't what I was saying. We're just not on the same page here. I heard that Rivera spoke to his captains, meaning all of them, and its hard for me to assume a conversation amongst a group would result in the assumption that Terry wanted wentz just because he was part of a group conversation that resulted in that decision. For all we know he could have been the lone voice of opposition. I wouldn't guess he was just saying we don't really know what Terry's opinion was based off the information we have. But again I'm working off only what I've read here. Dude we are in a playoff push and haven’t won a game since November and our next game is being played in January. No one on the team is against the move except number 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, TMK9973 said: BUT - I hope I am wrong You are. That wasn’t prevent defense. The Niners blitzed and blitzed and blitzed Wentz. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, TMK9973 said: I think this is the wrong move. TH gives us the best hope to win now and even last week, TH looked Really good until the back to back turnovers (Only 1 I think is his fault). Wentz had a great TD pass, but everything else was short dumps offs against a prevent defense giving up the short dump offs. BUT - I hope I am wrong and even better -I really hope this is a Doug Williams Situation. Doug Williams is remembered as this great Redskins QB but in truth, he was 0-2 as a starter in the 87 season who came in off the bench in the last game of the season and got hot. Listening to Keim, their take is "good" Taylor still doesn't equal points. Tough to win if you don't score points. That's why Taylor's turnovers are a big deal. You can't both struggle to score points AND spot points for your opponent by having turnovers in or near the red zone. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: Are you one of those guys that likes banging his head against an unwavering wall? I'll get through! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, zCommander said: I think the simpler answer would be that they told Ron whatever you decide coach we will play hard for either one. I would imagine they are not going to put Taylor under the bus and they shouldn't. They are all teammates and respect each other one has to think. Ron - "you guys are all captains, in the locker room and on the field. I value your opinion about which QB we should start before I make an announcement" The Captains - "NO" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Are you one of those guys that likes banging his head against an unwavering wall? God damn it was supposed to be a bye-week joke! Taylor is so bad he can't even win the.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: You are. That wasn’t prevent defense. The Niners blitzed and blitzed and blitzed Wentz. There was even commentary on the blitzes Wentz faced in real time (at least on Twitter). 5 minutes ago, zCommander said: God damn it was supposed to be a bye-week joke! Taylor is so bad he can't even win the.... yeah, but see, I'm one of those guys who feels insulted when he's corrected, and even when I see someone else corrected lol... (*the above is based on real events) Edited December 28, 2022 by Califan007 The Constipated 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: There was even commentary on the blitzes Wentz faced in real time (at least on Twitter). yeah, but see, I'm one of those guys who feels insulted when he's corrected, and even when I see someone else corrected lol... (*the above is based on real events) Maybe you could find a Commanders themed one. TK could include it with our annual membership fees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 @Koolblue13 when did you change the thread title? I have always looked at Heini Hole in the title and clicked on the thread lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: There was even commentary on the blitzes Wentz faced in real time (at least on Twitter). Somebody here also had the audacity to say that he got “bailed out” by throwing the shuffle pass when almost sacked. Mahomes does that and he’s a miracle worker. 😭 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, zCommander said: @Koolblue13 when did you change the thread title? I have always looked at Heini Hole in the title and clicked on the thread lol I don't know whether or not to applaud KB for the thread title change or throw tomatoes at him lol... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Califan007 The Constipated said: I don't know whether or not to applaud KB for the thread title change or throw tomatoes at him lol... Nailed it! 2 minutes ago, zCommander said: @Koolblue13 when did you change the thread title? I have always looked at Heini Hole in the title and clicked on the thread lol This morning when I selected this beautiful new avatar. I'm not biased, but do you like it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Koolblue13 said: This morning when I selected this beautiful new avatar. I'm not biased, but do you like it? All I see is Prince Harry. You must think royaly of him lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Somebody here also had the audacity to say that he got “bailed out” by throwing the shuffle pass when almost sacked. Mahomes does that and he’s a miracle worker. 😭 He bailed himself out by thinking quick on his feet and making a good play?...That's a unique take lol...that sounds like it's from the Buddy Ryan "All he does is catch touchdowns" school of logic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Califan007 The Constipated said: He bailed himself out by thinking quick on his feet and making a good play?...That's a unique take lol...that sounds like it's from the Buddy Ryan "All he does is catch touchdowns" school of logic. You're in a mood today. 2 minutes ago, zCommander said: All I see is Prince Harry. You must think royaly of him lol He's no Prince Albert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: You're in a mood today. This is my mood everyday...I just don't usually spend it in this thread lol. But I'm optimistic with Wentz back as starter so here I am... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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