redskinss Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 28 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: People are continually making comparisons to QBs who have won nothing. Who’s being ridiculous And you want daniels right? Who comps as a best case scenario to lamar Jackson who's won nothing. Sound ridiculous yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, mistertim said: You literally just asked us if we'd want an elite QB like Josh Allen and framed it as a negative thing. Yes, that's ****ing weird. I want to be winning Super Bowls. Just now, redskinss said: And you want daniels right? Who comps as a best case scenario to lamar Jackson who's won nothing. Sound ridiculous yet? No Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, skinsmania123 said: And I agree 100% with this. Burrow cannot stay healthy but Daniels from everything I have read and looked at made major adjustments in his strength and conditioning, so he is more durable. I like Daniels, but it is that history, that is concerning. I personally think we are going to wind up with Maye, regardless. And while we can make comparisons to Allen, and Burrow, they have not won anything. And that is fair. 80% of Allen will give you a chance every year though. Dont get me wrong I pray Chicago takes Maye and we get "stuck" with Caleb. I would literally run naked up and down my street if it happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Est.1974 said: The low bar being set is staggering to me. Josh Allen is not a low bar. You keep arguing we need to trade up for Williams but the Bears arent trading the pick. Its a completely pointless argument. Its not happening. if you wanna argue Daniels should be the pick thats at least within the realm of logic and reason. What youre arguing isnt. Because its not gonna happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Tom Brady literally lectured Josh Allen on his dumb decision making. He's a talented QB that may never win anything significant because he is often a terrible decision maker and plays too much hero ball Brady "A big part of playing QB is mitigating risks" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: No Williams. Bro we all want Williams. Its not gonna happen. Move on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 put josh allen on cowboys or 49ers. Whos going to the superbowl every year in the nfc? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Est.1974 said: No Williams But we don't have a shot at williams without trading up. I'd take him in a heartbeat if he's available at 2 but don't forget it's still a longshot he becomes the next mahomes and we aren't getting Andy Reid with him. I'm done with this conversation after this, I don't think you're a troll but you are acting like one right now and the visceral replies to your recent posts prove that out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Allen has his flaws for sure and Im still salty him missing the open Diggs late cost me a $1000 parlay but hes still a top 5 QB and gives you a chance every year. Thats all you can ask for. Let me put it this way. If youre guaranteing me the QB I get at 2, whoever it is, is Josh Allen, Ill take that every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Warhead36 said: Josh Allen is not a low bar. You keep arguing we need to trade up for Williams but the Bears arent trading the pick. Its a completely pointless argument. Its not happening. if you wanna argue Daniels should be the pick thats at least within the realm of logic and reason. What youre arguing isnt. Because its not gonna happen. I’m not arguing anything. We’re talking about our future franchise QB selection here and people keep referencing QBs who have won nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, redskinss said: Who comps as a best case scenario to lamar Jackson Daniels is a better passer than Lamar was coming out. But he is not the dynamic runner Lamar was either. Lamar has a far better arm though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, clskinsfan said: And that is fair. 80% of Allen will give you a chance every year though. Dont get me wrong I pray Chicago takes Maye and we get "stuck" with Caleb. I would literally run naked up and down my street if it happens. I have come around on Caleb. He is definitely the best, in terms of overall ability, and I came to think that a lot of stuff in the media was overblown about his personality. Nothing new there. I was thinking that Chicago would stay with Fields, because he improved this year, a few better receivers, and better protection. They are going to unload him for sure. Maybe Atlanta? You know there is that Bearitis. I mean has any QB been good there in the past 25 years? I don't think so. I sort of feel bad for Caleb if he winds up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Bro we all want Williams. Its not gonna happen. Move on. Nope. Not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: I’m not arguing anything. We’re talking about our future franchise QB selection here and people keep referencing QBs who have won nothing. How many QBs have won a ton? Williams aint Mahomes either. Noone is. You take someone you believe gives you a chance every year for a devade and let the chips fall where they may. of course if there is a guy that guarantees Super Bowl wins you get him but that guy doesnt exist. Edited February 24 by Warhead36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 40 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: I want the guy that’s going to win the SB And that is the problem isnt it? Which QB is gonna beat Mahomes in this draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, dunfer said: put josh allen on cowboys or 49ers. Whos going to the superbowl every year in the nfc? So Allen is someone who needs a perfect team around him to win? Is that what you're suggesting? Why are people acting like the Bills haven't been a pretty stacked team? What? This is like people who swear Kirk hasn't had enough around him in Minnesota? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Only like what, what, 40 QBs in NFL history have won a Super Bowl? Its an absurd standard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, clskinsfan said: And that is the problem isnt it? Which QB is gonna beat Mahomes in this draft? If you were to choose who gives us the best shot over the next decade, who you taking ? Just now, Warhead36 said: Only like what, what, 40 QBs in NFL history have won a Super Bowl? Its an absurd standard. After the 20 years of ****, why aren’t you aiming higher ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Est.1974 said: If you were to choose who gives us the best shot over the next decade, who you taking ? Caleb. And it isnt close for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Est.1974 said: If you were to choose who gives us the best shot over the next decade, who you taking ? The best that is available at our slot, which is most likely Maye or possibly Daniels based on everything we know at the moment. We dont live in a world where Williams is available. Until you grasp that point, I dont know what to say… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, ThatNFLChick said: So Allen is someone who needs a perfect team around him to win? Is that what you're suggesting? Why are people acting like the Bills haven't been a pretty stacked team? What? This is like people who swear Kirk hasn't had enough around him in Minnesota? Might as well trade back and draft JJ if you need the perfect team around him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 3 minutes ago, dunfer said: put josh allen on cowboys or 49ers. Whos going to the superbowl every year in the nfc? I think you are right. When I think of the two passes Diggs alone dropped in the last playoff game they played, one that would have sealed the game for them, it is sad. And how many times has the D let him down after he brings them back? Often. Hopefully, Maye has that capacity. But Josh Allen had a rough rookie year. So we have to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just now, clskinsfan said: Caleb. And it isnt close for me. So make the historic offer and go get the big fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 minute ago, ThatNFLChick said: So Allen is someone who needs a perfect team around him to win? Is that what you're suggesting? Why are people acting like the Bills haven't been a pretty stacked team? What? This is like people who swear Kirk hasn't had enough around him in Minnesota? no not at all. NFC is wide open. Josh would own our conference Cowboys and 49ers are nfc elite with mediocre qbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh86 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said: So Allen is someone who needs a perfect team around him to win? Is that what you're suggesting? Why are people acting like the Bills haven't been a pretty stacked team? What? This is like people who swear Kirk hasn't had enough around him in Minnesota? Daniels had a pretty stacked team. Can’t have it both ways. That being said. This started as a - we could hope for Allen level success. They aren’t the same, most of us understand Edited February 25 by mh86 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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