CNN: Nice official: Probably 30 people killed when truck runs through crowd

[Corcaigh]

6 hours ago, FrFan said:

Edit: please tell me how the burkini is a sign of integration in the french society ? I say it's a sign of provocation and separation.

 

 

I have absolutely zero tolerance for any religious group acting against the secular state and infringing on individual freedom. But the burkini ban is farce compared to other issues when Salafism is openly practiced.

[FrFan]

35 minutes ago, Corcaigh said:

 

I have absolutely zero tolerance for any religious group acting against the secular state and infringing on individual freedom. But the burkini ban is farce compared to other issues when Salafism is openly practiced.

I understand, we are disagreeing on the burkini, I just  think it is the beginning that will lead us to other forms of fundamentalism in France. The little stream that will pick up speed and size to become a river, bigger and bigger. I'd rather stop that right away rather than having people raising torches and pitchforks, but that's just my opinion.

I give you an example here of the little stream metaphor Man 'injured by harpoon' during riot on Corsica beach after tourist takes photo of woman in burkini

First of all this is garbage misinformation, she was not wearing a burkini, regular oufit with a veil on her head, which makes my case more valid imo. They were 3 pricks from Moroccan descent on the beach with a wife, they started stoning a french topless girl and her fiancé (I know stoning women is a Quran thing) until they left. Then they started insulting foreign tourists who were taking pictures of the beach from the cliff until they left too. Then they assaulted a 15 years old teen ordering him to stop taking pictures of the woman while he was just taking selfies. They kept on going until one of them hit the kid on the head with a knife, the other kid ran away calling for help. The father came to the rescue and the pricks attacked him using a harpoon !. Then the villagers came to the rescue, kicked the pricks asses and burnt down their cars. Attorney general said all the blame is on the 3 pricks, while they cowardly denying the facts. Prosecution is due on Sept. 15th. This is not the first provocation, and typical intolerance, because as I said their religion must expand over everything else, they wanted to seize the beach and install a caïdat.

Mr. Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, the most popular moderate Sunni sheikhs, seems to support them (islamists) when, in his flagship show on Al-Jazeera, he said "Sharia is Life", it ensures that the conquest will take place and that all human beings will find themselves united by the word of Allah.

[SkinsHokieFan]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/burkini-ban-ruling-france-sarkozy-nice-beach-pictures-muslim-islam-a7208476.html

 

 

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1. The burqa was extremely rare in France before it was banned.

In 2009, as France moved to ban the full-face veil, then-French President Nicolas Sarkozy called the burqa a symbol of "debasement" that was "not welcome" in the country. What Sarkozy didn't reveal was how many women actually wore the burqa in France. In fact, the French Interior Ministry's estimates suggested that only a few, if any, French women wore the burqa.

Part of this is simple semantics: The burqa describes a type of veil worn mostly in Afghanistan and South Asia. It is a single piece of cloth that covers the entire body with usually only a thin mesh for the woman to see out of. What you are more likely to see in Europe are niqabs, a veil more popular in Gulf states that usually covers the bottom half of the face and leaves the area around the eyes open.

The Interior Ministry estimated that just 2,000 French women wore the niqab (for reference, France's Muslim population is now estimated at 7.5 million) and some think that even that estimate was faulty and potentially too high.

 

 

 

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4. Some say that the number of women who wear the full-face veil has actually increased in France since the bans were implemented.

Some experts say that the law has actually propelled more women to wear the veil rather than discouraged it. De Feo said that many of the women she talks to who wear the niqab in France today were inspired to wear the veil by the law; often they are young converts to Islam. Many of the women who wore the niqab before the ban spend most of their time at home now, De Feo said.

"There are indeed more women who wear it in 2016 than in 2011," Nekkaz said. "The Sarkozy law is a failure."

 

 

 

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5. The burkini was invented in Australia and was designed as a means to allow Muslim women to participate in Australian culture.

The burkini did not originate in Afghanistan. In fact, given that it is a two-piece garment that doesn't cover the face, it doesn't have a whole lot to do with the burqa in general.

The burkini's origin can be traced to Australia, where it was created by a woman named Aheda Zanetti in the early 2000s. Zanetti, who had moved to Sydney from Lebanon at the age of 2, had been inspired to make Muslim-friendly sportswear after seeing her niece play netball in a more traditional hijab. She eventually created what we now refer to as the burkini (she actually owns the copyright to both Burkini and Burqini, though they are used as generic terms).

"I wanted to make sure we blended in with the Australian lifestyle," Zanneti recently told WorldViews.

 

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The burkini isn't just for Muslims. "We've sold to Jews, Hindus, Christians, Mormons, women with various body issues. We've had men asking for them, too," Zanetti explained. In a separate interview with Women's Wear Daily, Zanetti estimated that around 40 percent of her client base was non-Muslim.

Some non-Muslim celebrities have been photographed wearing similar outfits to the beach: In 2011, British chef and television personality Nigella Lawson was spotted wearing one during a holiday to Australia. The outfit was created by a British brand called Modesty Active and Lawson later said that she wore it to protect her skin. Other companies, such as Aqua Modesta, also create similar garments for Orthodox Jewish women.

 

[Corcaigh]

This is not actually a Muslim thing. The Nice truck bomber wasn't religious. Neither was the Orlando shooter. It's the actions of violent/militant thugs.

Aggressively arrest the thugs on beaches and in the streets who are threatening others. The vast, vast majority of Muslims came to the west to escape the fundamentalists. 

And speaking from personal experience, most Irish Republican terrorists were looking for an outlet for their violent tendencies, they weren't politically motivated.

 

[FrFan]

And all the countries who are lecturing us or depict us as stupid or vilains have nothing to say about that sign outside an aquatic entertainment center in Morocco, really laughable

[FrFan]

3 hours ago, SkinsHokieFan said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/burkini-ban-ruling-france-sarkozy-nice-beach-pictures-muslim-islam-a7208476.htm

5. The burkini was invented in Australia and was designed as a means to allow Muslim women to participate in Australian culture.

Marie Curie got two nobel prizes for her research on polonium and radium a few years later we all know what the nazis tried to do and what happened as a consequence in Hiroshima. Something good or innocent can be turned into evil in the wrong hands.

The number of burqas is indeed increasing since 2009 !, and some of them dare to wear make-up behing it, but of course this couldn't be interpreted has a provocation right ? little rivers, picking up speed and getting larger and larger

Minorities, small numbers, hum let's see, oh yes, this minority who wants to force our kids to quit pork and eat hallal food in the schools cafeterias. The socialist pricks who prohibited teachers to start french history courses by saying "Our ancestors THE GAULES" ! to please the arab minority. I guess the rule is that it's the country that must fit to the foreigners way of life not the other way around, right ?

Selling burkinis to christians, hum let's see, oh yes of course 7 french christians on a remote french beach wore burkinis

[Corcaigh]

I don't know if anyone is arguing here that wearing a veil or burkini is a great thing for society. For many it is worn out of pressure.

However, most would believe that police time and political effort could be spent on more productive efforts and not actions that could reasonably interpreted as harassment of a particular group. Instead, spend time working against radical communities, and those advocates of Sharia and the 'moral police' that certain media would have you believe are everywhere.

[FrFan]

21 minutes ago, Corcaigh said:

I don't know if anyone is arguing here that wearing a veil or burkini is a great thing for society. For many it is worn out of pressure.

However, most would believe that police time could be spent on more productive efforts and not actions that could reasonably interpreted as harassment of a particular group. Instead, spend time working against radical communities, and those advocates of Sharia and the 'moral police' that certain media would have you believe are everywhere.

Tell that to Boris Johnson and the mayor of London they're criticizing us while they should have their hands and minds full with Brexit

I'm lucky to have prime infos about the police since my gym buddy is a former DGSI captain and worked 8 years in Africa collecting info and dismantling ISIS networks. For example he told me something the medias didn't report and the government didn't leak, don't ask me why ? Before Euro around 2500 french arab islamists came back from Syria, they considered 10% of them were ready to commit terorist attacks. They also dismantled a very dangerous group including women wearing niqabs, like the one wo was involved in the Paris attacks but who changed her mind. He also said more is to come. The main problem is that the agitated big mouth Sarkozy let aroung 10000 police officers retire and didn't hired any to replace them, socialists pricks added 1500 more. It takes a minimum of 2 years to train anti terrorist officers and another couple of years on the field to have them fully fitted !

[techboy]

5 hours ago, FrFan said:

And all the countries who are lecturing us or depict us as stupid or vilains have nothing to say about that sign outside an aquatic entertainment center in Morocco, really laughable

 

Okay, fine... I don't really care that much about this issue, but since you're practically begging anyone and everyone to respond to this, I looked it up.

That picture is from a PRIVATE swimming pool, it says here.

There is quite a difference between a private property owner setting rules for his or her own establishment, and a GOVERNMENT handing down laws about whether people are allowed to wear wet suits in public.

In fact, the government takes the EXACT OPPOSITE position that the government in France took:

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After a hotel in El jadida banned a woman from swimming with her burini, Abdelaziz Aftati, deputy of the Justice and Development Party, sent a scathing letter to Lahcen Haddad, Minister of Tourism, where he denounced the “unacceptable interference in the freedom of people and their beliefs” from this “radical secular society,” which “still treats citizens on racial and religious grounds.”

 

So, yeah, you should probably drop that one too. 

But in truth, this isn't really about the burkinis, or "proselytization", or even terrorism, is it?

Another thing that most Americans often have trouble understanding about many European nations, especially  the French, is their self-understanding about culture and assimilation.

Americans don't get it because we are a nation of immigrants. Sure. we have our issues with racism and immigrants integrating here, but ultimately, "American" culture is a hodge-podge of other nations, and we happily absorb anything and everything. I think SkinHokieFan one time pointed out the silliness of New Yorkers fighting the ground zero mosque while munching on the Halal food they got at the street corner.

France is different. You guys have a very definite idea of what it means to be "French"... What to eat, what to wear, how to speak.

You even have a government body that tracks the language!

To me, this isn't any different than the mobs that attacked McDonald's before you were assimilated by the American hegemony and now everyone in the Paris McDonald's is French (USA! USA! USA!). *EDIT* Though I have been told by someone from the South of France that Parisians aren't actually French, so... 

The real problem here is that you don't think these particular Muslim immigrants want to be French, and it makes you and your countrymen angry. "Assimilating" in France (or Belgium, etc.) is a lot more than "assimilating" in the US, which primarily means learning English and opening a restaurant so the rest of us can enjoy your food.

And it IS a problem. After the attacks in Paris, I was reading an article about Belgian Muslims who don't feel like they are Belgian (even when they are 3rd generation Belgian!), and it is this sense of alienation that makes them a target for ISIS.

And I get it... I love my "Belgian Aunt", and her love of the Walloon culture. Funny sidenote: Her grandson, who she often cares for, is a very picky eater and rarely wants to eat anything other than "Flemish Chicken".

The thing is, though, that I'm not sure it's working for you. I suspect it's going to take both sides giving some to solve this mess.

Think about THAT as you munch your  Big Mac on the way to the next Will Smith movie in your Levis. 

USA! USA! USA!

[FrFan]

Sorry I think you got it all wrong here, and here are the evidences:

First this is not the only place in Morocco which is banning burkini. I could careless if its private or not, they can do it, and I don't see people protesting in the streets about it. Have you been to Maghreb ?, I guess not because if you would you would have realized that burkini is also banned in some PUBLIC pools. Since only one remote government official is whining about it, and all those private and public places are doing it I assume it's not illegal.

Some hotels have "strictly prohibits access to pools with Burkini" reports the daily Moroccan news via h24info.ma

See this : In Algiers, the burkini is forbidden to the PUBLIC pool Sablettes google translated

And that : this is the translation of what an algerian woman said in the article, and that speaks volume imo: "If I lived in the West, I would obey the laws of the country." Safia, Algiers. I call this woman an intelligent respectful muslim ! Wish they were more like her among us.

Same thing with the immigrants from the 1st generation, they were all quiet and respectful people didn't try to provoke any controversy or implementing their customs into our Republic. Now some of them are so pissed off about their children attitude that they are voting for the National Front !!!!!!

You said: "The real problem here is that you don't think these particular Muslim immigrants want to be French, and it makes you and your countrymen angry."

First of all they are French, born and raised here ! C'mon how can you say that ? I'm starting to think that you really don't know much about what you're talking about us !

Second of all if you would have read my post you would have realized that I proved they don't want to really be a part of us. They're trying to enforce their religion upon others. They've got free education, free healthcare, mosques, they pay tiny to no rent, tiny to no income taxes, socialists even tried to get them out of their hood providing some of them with housing in other neighborhoods. Most of them decided to go back to their hood. How's that for integration ?

Third of all, I'm not angry, again, please I would apreciate if you would stop putting words into my mouth.  I'm pissed not mad or angry, believe me.

You said: "You even have a government body that tracks the language!"

WTH ? Socialists in Montpellier tried to force us to learn Arab as the first foreign language !

They tried to do it in elementary school, the minister of education had to deny it yesterday, eventhough she claimed the opposite last May !!!! Talking about double face lying politician pricks with an agenda ! (Belkacem: Arabic will be taught from the CP (elementary school) as other languages). Moreover starting a french history course in school by saying "our ancestors the gaules" is strictly prohibited because of the arab minority ! If that's fine with you, that's not with me. By the way she has double citizenship, french and moroccan, and dares to lecture us about integration

You said "And it IS a problem. After the attacks in Paris, I was reading an article about Belgian Muslims who don't feel like they are Belgian (even when they are 3rd generation Belgian!), and it is this sense of alienation that makes them a target for ISIS."

I do agree, but don't they have a brain ? Don't they have access to reliable medias ? Can't they figure out by themselves that ISIS is pure evil and playing them, C'mon ! ? Can't they realize how lucky they are to live in a free country, this very same country providing them for their needs ? while if they go back to the country of their origins they'll be treated as outcasts.

Please answer this one: How many muslims protesting against ISIS did you see in the streets after the Paris and Nice attacks ?

You don't have a majority of maghrebians in the USA and we do have a much larger muslim community than you guys in a much smaller country, and not a large number of converted.  I'm not criticizing the USA, and I won't, pointless and counterproductive imo. I noticed that the people who are so prompt to criticize us have little to absolutely no knowledge of our history and way of life. They also tend to think that the system they're living in is better. I don't do that, but that's just me.

I believe in secularism and due to our sad violent history, religions shall remain in homes and temples in my country. I believe people shall not wear visible religious signs (under the clothes is fine) or religious outfits, only ministers of cult. I believe the foreigners must adapt to the country not the other way around. Feel free to disagree about my country.

I really hope we can solve this situation. I'm not sure since many politicians pricks want to stick their woodstick into the **** pot and stir it so everybody can enjoy the stench ! What they're doing is to set us apart because we're talking, debating,ranting about it and in the mean time we don't pay attention to the record high unemployment rate, to the disastrous shape of our economy, and their constant wrongdoings. Poor France !

No I don't eat McDonald's  I call it "le mange merde", I liked Carl's Jr salads or Wendy's stuffed potatoes better back then. Gimme some NY style cheesecake til I drop ! I quit Levi's a long time ago and by the way it has been invented by a German who used the denim product (de Nimes) from France and Genoa The Jean is ours !

Will Smith no thanks, gimme Samuel Jackson, Sydney Poitier, James Earl Jones, and Laurence Fishburne anytime, and the guy who played Ray Charles sorry I forgot his name.

I'm sad to see the division between Flemmisch and Wallons, because the Belgians are so friendly, LOVE their thick fries. No, you  American rednecks don't you dare to call them french fries

[techboy]

Uh...

4 hours ago, FrFan said:

You said: "The real problem here is that you don't think these particular Muslim immigrants want to be French, and it makes you and your countrymen angry."

 

Yes, I did. Then, YOU said it explicitly. Immediately following.

4 hours ago, FrFan said:

Second of all if you would have read my post you would have realized that I proved they don't want to really be a part of us.

 

So, thanks?

4 hours ago, FrFan said:

You said: "You even have a government body that tracks the language!"

Yes, I did. It's called Académie françaiseare.

 

4 hours ago, FrFan said:

First this is not the only place in Morocco which is banning burkini. I could careless if its private or not, they can do it, and I don't see people protesting in the streets about it

The public/private distinction is a big deal. 

If TK bans me for praising the Cowboys, no problem.

If the US Congress makes it illegal... Okay, bad example.  

In any case, I'm not sure where you're getting your google translated quotes from, but according to this, The burkini in North Africa: 'Most people don't care'

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ALGIERS: The burkini, a body-concealing women’s swimsuit that fits a conservative Islamic dress code, has stirred controversy in France, but on the beaches of North Africa, it has made few waves.

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But the swimsuit has sparked no such controversy in Tunisia, says sociologist Abdessatar Sahbani. “Wearing the burkini, which has increased considerably since the revolution (in 2011), hasn’t caused any problems on the beaches,” he says.

 

For the record, I didn't mean to blow up the font, which is kind of obnoxious. That's the way it copied for some reason.

Final note on this topic. Even if you were right, which apparently you're not, there's another factor here.

No one says anything about North Africa's politics vs those of France because France is a Nuclear Power on the UN Security Council, and Algiers, for example, is not. There's a tiny difference in their global impact.

Finally...

4 hours ago, FrFan said:

Third of all, I'm not angry, again, please I would apreciate if you would stop putting words into my mouth ! I'm pissed not mad or angry.

I don't know how much of this whole thread has been sparked by translation errors, but "mad, pissed, and angry" are all pretty much the same in common usage.

 

 

[tshile]

19 hours ago, Corcaigh said:

The vast, vast majority of Muslims came to the west to escape the fundamentalists. 

Eh, it seems more like they wanted to escape the war and violence.

Pew surveys are pretty detailed and consistent that the people from over there generally are closer to the fundamentalists line of thinking than our own. 

 

[FrFan]

4 hours ago, techboy said:

 

In any case, I'm not sure where you're getting your google translated quotes from, but according to this, The burkini in North Africa: 'Most people don't care'

You made your case about private pools implying they don't obey the government I just proved you there are also public pools who banned the burkini, and they can't be illegall unless the government would have closed them. I don't care about if the burkini causing a commotion or not down there, again you're splitting hairs to fuel your point of view. My point is that all the hypocrits who are calling us vilains because some cities banned the burkini, have nothing to say to the moroccan and algerians when they're doing the exact same thing privately or publicly ! Why is it so hard to understand ?

" but on the beaches of North Africa, it has made few waves."

Again I could careless what they think it's not the topic, but since you brought it up I'm going to explain my opinion. Some cities in France banned it not all the country, they never made a big deal or waves about it like you just said about the Moroccans and Algerians. You are the ones who are making a big deal  making waves about it. Latest poll 64% approval , 30% don't care, 6% disaprove. Another one shows 74% approval , 23% disaprove, 1% have no opinion. Doggone intolerant Frenchies

I don't get what the french academy is doing here ?!, What's your point here ? You accused me of being all over the place, look at you here.

I didn't talk about the north african politics and that the fact that we've got nukes, sorry the more I read you the more I'm getting lost !

Yes there is a difference in my book and also in my language between being pissed off and being angry or mad. Tha later ones being extreme, they last longer and those feelings you'll have a hard time getting over with.

9 hours ago, FrFan said:

Second of all if you would have read my post you would have realized that I proved they don't want to really be a part of us.

So, thanks?

Nothing wrong here, they are French but they act like they are spitting on the hand that is feeding them, plain and simple. "US" as our Republic our Nation, c'mon ! You do like splitting hairs don't you ? Which led to this below

Yet again you don't answer my question since you brought up ISIS How many muslims protesting against ISIS did you see in the streets after the Paris and Nice attacks ?

RT UK @RTUKnews

French Muslim sick of terrorists says "up to us to track them down & f*** them up" http://on.rt.com/6x75

I approve this message. Why such a tiny little group ?

Enjoy reading this article among other ones:

There is no difference in religious fundamentalism between American Muslims and Christians

"Religious fundamentalism among Muslim immigrants in Western Europe is dramatically greater than that among Christian Europeans, according to a recent study by Ruud Koopmans from the Wissenschaftszentrum in Berlin discussed on the Monkey Cage last Friday.  On the surface, these findings legitimize concerns surrounding the incompatibility of Western and Islamic values"

And this one too : Islamic fundamentalism is widely spread REALITY CHECK !

"Two thirds of the Muslims interviewed say that religious rules are more important to them than the laws of the country in which they live. Three quarters of the respondents hold the opinion that there is only one legitimate interpretation of the Koran."

If this is fine with you, stepping on your country's law, fine, again let me disagree about my country. That has been my all point from the get go. The dangers and spread of radicalization, again, little rivers, getting bigger and bigger. They disrespect our laws and when they'll be in larger numbers they'll try to take over, that's the nature of the two third beast. Last time I checked two third represented a large majority, right ? I'm saying two third of them shall get the hell out and see if the grass is greener elsewhere. By the way why did they live their country for to come here if they feel so oppressed by the laws in western countries ?

"Try to mix oil and vinegar. Shake the bottle. After a second, they will separate again." De Gaulle. Oh wait you're probably going to call him a bigot and a racist like Churchill, will you ?

Last but not least those are the muslims I support and who are more than welcomed: "If I lived in the West, I would obey the laws of the country." Safia, Algiers.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I always love the delicious irony from my European friends of why "French/German/Italian/English" speaking immigrants from far away lands show up in their home country in Europe. 

[techboy]

4 hours ago, FrFan said:

I don't get what the french academy is doing here ?!, What's your point here ?

 

The point was that the French have a much more specific idea of what it means to be "French", right down to attempting to protect the language from outside influences, and this can cause a lot more friction with groups that don't seem to want to fit that mold. 

I was attempting to draw a contrast with Americans, and how that cultural difference can lead to unspoken misunderstandings or assumptions.

I'm not going to let you drag me into a wider discussion of the issues, sorry, though I know that's frustrating to you. 

Here are the limited points I have defended:

1. You shouldn't quote Churchill on Islam because he is not an expert on the subject, and his viewpoints and biases are VERY suspect.

2. Whether or not a privately owned pool bans burkinis in Morroco has no bearing upon whether or not a GOVERNMENT should be doing it in France. Note: "Open to the public" does not mean "government run", so you're still off base here.

    2A. France is much more important geopolitically, so even if it WAS a fair comparison, it's silly to expect similar levels of discussion. Who cares what they do in          Morroco?

3. It is important for people in this discussion to understand the cultural differences between (in this case) France and the US that are often unspoken.
 

That's it. I think #1 and #2 are slam dunks and your refusal to admit it is just you being stubborn, so unless you have something new I consider those closed. I'm happy to discuss #3 if you need further clarification, since I think it's actually a large part of the disagreement we're having right now.

[FrFan]

1 hour ago, techboy said:

 

The point was that the French have a much more specific idea of what it means to be "French", right down to attempting to protect the language from outside influences, and this can cause a lot more friction with groups that don't seem to want to fit that mold. 

I was attempting to draw a contrast with Americans, and how that cultural difference can lead to unspoken misunderstandings or assumptions.

I'm not going to let you drag me into a wider discussion of the issues, sorry, though I know that's frustrating to you. 

Here are the limited points I have defended:

1. You shouldn't quote Churchill on Islam because he is not an expert on the subject, and his viewpoints and biases are VERY suspect.

2. Whether or not a privately owned pool bans burkinis in Morroco has no bearing upon whether or not a GOVERNMENT should be doing it in France. Note: "Open to the public" does not mean "government run", so you're still off base here.

    2A. France is much more important geopolitically, so even if it WAS a fair comparison, it's silly to expect similar levels of discussion. Who cares what they do in          Morroco?

3. It is important for people in this discussion to understand the cultural differences between (in this case) France and the US that are often unspoken.
 

That's it. I think #1 and #2 are slam dunks and your refusal to admit it is just you being stubborn, so unless you have something new I consider those closed. I'm happy to discuss #3 if you need further clarification, since I think it's actually a large part of the disagreement we're having right now.

What we mean to be French is plain and simple like any other country, respect the country, the nation, the secularism.

Don't worry I'm not frustrated  I'm just putting yourself in front of your contradictions See #2 you just don't want to admit it, ok fine.

2A You are totally out of the topic, we do care about what's going on in Morocco and maghreb, we have ties, we have immigrants, common history, etc..

3 I think some did, others didn't.

You refused to answer my questions and you're brushing off the overwhelming undisputable stats, studies and numbers I put up, yet you called me stubborn, talking about the pot calling the kettle black! . Probably because they are slam dunking your arguments and you obviously got none to prove me wrong. I've never refused to answer any question unless I've got no answer, nor did I got any problem to acknowledge when I'm wrong. So I will not engage in further discussions with you on that matter. I hope the members found some opinions and informations we posted relevant and interesting. Rest assure I've got no ill will, I ain't angry or mad at you , have a nice day.

[visionary]

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A judge in Corsica on Tuesday said a burkini ban ordered by the mayor of the town of Sisco was legal because public order had been disrupted and “strong emotions persist.”

“The presence on a beach in Sisco of a woman wearing a swimming costume of the type targeted [by the ban] … could cause risks to public order which it is the town hall’s duty to prevent,” the court said, in a ruling that contradicts a higher court ruling, the Guardian reported.

 

[visionary]

 

[FrFan]

Breaking news: Batman has been arrested in Corsica he was mistaken for a woman wearing a burkini

[FrFan]

For the record to make things clear, there was no burkini involved in Sisco Corsica ! The prick leader has been sentenced to 2 years in the can, 2 prick brothers sentenced to 6 months suspended sentence. The village baker got 1 year suspended sentence, the local fireman got 8 months.

According to the former deputy director of the DGSE Pierre Siramy the pricks' lawyers are paid by Qatar. "The intrusion of Qatar in this case change "the objectivity of the trial." "One might question the neutrality of a judgment that could be supported by a foreign power," he said.

Céline Pina: "The police of the Islamist virtue police imposes its standards by violence" (google translated)General

Also at Toulon, June 13, 2016, a young 18 year old girl had made insulting and threatening the bus line 3, by a gang of girls her age because she was wearing shorts.

Chanting "whores" and "c'mon put yourself naked," the young men came to exercise a policy of virtue that we thought impossible in our latitudes.

At the last recorded attack, with shouts of "whores" and "c'mon put yourself naked," the young men came to exercise a policy of virtue that we thought impossible in our latitudes. In the case of the young girl in shorts, who recounted the attack on Facebook, the question "why you call me a **** because I wear shorts while a man can walk around topless in the city center without that no one find fault? "the young women answered" well because you're a woman, have to comply, dirty ****. "Those guardians of virtue showed a lot of concern about  women decency, but show little concern about  the "chastity" of their vocabulary and also said a man must be respected, a woman must meet respect.

"We will not repress the desire to conquer the power of those who use Islam to impose their political totalitarianism (including fanning the fire of civil war) ignoring their multiple provocations, but making clear that these attitudes are unacceptable and separatists."

"Our nation is not a spanish hostel, nor a cuddling teddy bear world where tolerance will solve all the conflicts"

 

[visionary]