DC9 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 He should go work for the Post, he'd fit right in. that was awesome, sir. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bang Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Three most memorable plays of LaVar career; the interception return against Carolina, the hit on Aikman to end his career and the head-on collision against Vick during a pre-season game against ATL. Mind you, I am no LaVar *** kisser.Don't have many for Orakpo but he can keep trying tho. Those are there, but the ones that stick out in my mind are when the 49ers threw TO a screen pass, which Lavar read and blasted in, only to leave his feet in a useless flying tackle dive (See DanT's "flying Lombardi" sig) and hit TO in his hips completely airborne,, and he got slung off .. spinning through the air and bowling over 2 other Redskins, and allowing TO to shift direction and take off against the grain for something like a 50 yard touchdown. This ability to be slung through the air and take out fellow defenders happened to Lavar many more times than I care to count. I also remember when the Greatest Show Rams came to Fedex and surprisingly we played them VERY tough, and Lavar ended their comeback with a sack / strip of Kurt Warner as they were driving down for the potential winning score. Lavar was frustrating player. There's a fine line between being reckless, and being able to use that abandon to great effect,, see Jr. Seau. I don't see any of this in Orakpo.. I don't see the ridiculously bad fundamentals that send him careening through the air or sailing past guys who duck him effortlessly.. and I also don't see the explosiveness. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG3fan Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 And also not lumping in every fan here as the 99.9%. There are varying opinions here, but when you are always appearing to try and play the devils advocate 57 posts in don't act shocked when you get questioned as such. FWIW. (probably not much)If you did work for the post and didn't post here, I would never have read you. If I'm the devils advocate does that make you the Devil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4skins23 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Rob Jackson is not better than Orakpo, but then again, imo Orakpo isn't pro-bowl material. At least yet. I would like to see both in making plays.It would make the LB core stronger for sure. With Hall gone and Fletcher not sure if he will come back this defense is going from 30th to 32nd in a hurry. The front office really hasn't addressed the defense. I know hands are tied with the cap and all but if thats the excuse they are going to use then get ready for a LONG 2013 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2cents Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Rob Jackson is not better than Orakpo, but then again, imo Orakpo isn't pro-bowl material. At least yet. I would like to see both in making plays.It would make the LB core stronger for sure. With Hall gone and Fletcher not sure if he will come back this defense is going from 30th to 32nd in a hurry. The front office really hasn't addressed the defense. I know hands are tied with the cap and all but if thats the excuse they are going to use then get ready for a LONG 2013 season. An excuse is if they had money and didn't fix the problem. The cap penalty taking away all our money isn't an excuse, it is a fact. What do you want them to do? "Something" or "just fix it" are not acceptable answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4skins23 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well, they took a step in the wrong direction by cutting Hall. Good move if they were to sign Talib, but that backfired and now left with a secondary that really has nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2cents Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well, they took a step in the wrong direction by cutting Hall. Good move if they were to sign Talib, but that backfired and now left with a secondary that really has nothing. So explain how they were going to do anything if Hall was getting the 8 million this year he was supposed to get. He was the highest paid guy on the team we could get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeluCopter29 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well, they took a step in the wrong direction by cutting Hall. Good move if they were to sign Talib, but that backfired and now left with a secondary that really has nothing. Hall really didn't contribute anything to the team. I'd rather give guys like Crawford a chance to show what they can do than continue and pay Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hall really didn't contribute anything to the team. I'd rather give guys like Crawford a chance to show what they can do than continue and pay Hall. Hall didn't contribute anything to the team? Jesus Christ, could you overstate your case any further? Yes, he's a below average starting CB. But this is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hall really didn't contribute anything to the team. I'd rather give guys like Crawford a chance to show what they can do than continue and pay Hall. Wait, so he didn't shut down Dez in the second Dallas game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Wait, so he didn't shut down Dez in the second Dallas game? Nope, did nothing. Might as well be Haynesworth. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzwiz Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Wait, so he didn't shut down Dez in the second Dallas game? He did really step up in that game. But he was just too inconsistent. I think he really doesn't like Dez so he gave him all he had. ---------- Post added March-17th-2013 at 12:54 AM ---------- Hall didn't contribute anything to the team? Jesus Christ, could you overstate your case any further? Yes, he's a below average starting CB. But this is ridiculous. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Rak hasn't been the player I thought he should be. And the main reason is because RAK is a pass rush specialist, period! He is a great defensive end and has no business trying to cover TE's or WR's. I have never seen any other LB held more often than I have RAK, and there's a reason he has to be held. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well, they took a step in the wrong direction by cutting Hall. Good move if they were to sign Talib, but that backfired and now left with a secondary that really has nothing.Talib is as big a head case as Hall. And he wouldn't have come much cheaper. Glad we don't have either. Let them be someone else's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hall really didn't contribute anything to the team. I'd rather give guys like Crawford a chance to show what they can do than continue and pay Hall.Stop it! Do some of you people even watch the dayum games, or do you just listen on the radio :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeluCopter29 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hall didn't contribute anything to the team? Jesus Christ, could you overstate your case any further? Yes, he's a below average starting CB. But this is ridiculous. You're right to say I exaggerated a fair bit. Yes, he did shut down Dez Bryant for 2 and half quarters. And all things considered had a decent year. But his value isn't at corner, it's at the "playmaker" position. And he had 4 INT's, a sack, and a fumble recovery. Not exactly eye opening numbers. I'm all for bringing him back on a reduced salary (http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Door-Still-Open-On-DeAngelo-Hall-Return/dac1a297-23c2-42f9-b7a3-8cfa4dfdbb9a) and I was surprised he didn't restructure. Granted, he'd have to take a HUGE pay cut (Down to about $2M) for him to be valuable IMO. So no, he didn't contribute ANYTHING. But let's not sit here and pretend he made a difference on this defense. We'll be about as good as we were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well, so was Kerrigan, FWIW... and pretty much every other defensive end who played the Rams in 2011. You can go back and read Kerrigan's post game comments from that one. He said it felt like every time he looked up after the snap, Orakpo was already back there trying to tackle the QB. He said it made it so much easier for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGriffin Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 You can go back and read Kerrigan's post game comments from that one. He said it felt like every time he looked up after the snap, Orakpo was already back there trying to tackle the QB. He said it made it so much easier for everyone else. Exactly if you go back an watch a lot of Kerrigan;s pressure and sacks came from Rak making Sam Bradford move towards Kerrigans side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 You can go back and read Kerrigan's post game comments from that one. He said it felt like every time he looked up after the snap, Orakpo was already back there trying to tackle the QB. He said it made it so much easier for everyone else. And if I'm a coach, that's exactly what I'd want all of my players to say about each other to the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 And if I'm a coach, that's exactly what I'd want all of my players to say about each other to the media But it was true in that case. And if it weren't for us allowing Bradford to get the ball off to Amendola within three steps of dropping back every play Orakpo probably would've had 4 sacks that game and caused another 4. And the game before Drew Brees didn't have more than 3 seconds to get the ball off after the snap without Orakpo causing him to, at the very least, move from his spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Here's Rob Jackson's St. Paddy's Day from Funny or Die: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/243a3de611/rob-jackson-s-st-paddy-s-day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 But it was true in that case. And if it weren't for us allowing Bradford to get the ball off to Amendola within three steps of dropping back every play Orakpo probably would've had 4 sacks that game and caused another 4.And the game before Drew Brees didn't have more than 3 seconds to get the ball off after the snap without Orakpo causing him to, at the very least, move from his spot. Um... Orakpo was hurt in that game. And he got hurt after his only sack and it was in the first half if memory serves. I thought you were talking about the game in 2011? To say he would've gotten 4 and caused another 4 when the game plan was to three step drop the Redskins defense (which it was in 2010 as well and it worked) then I seriously doubt it. You dream, lol. EDIT: And three seconds is forever for Drew Brees and most elite level NFL qbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4skins23 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Guys, point I was trying to make, love hime or hate him, Hall was the only play-maker CB on this team. He was also the best CB on this team. Not the greatest but the best the 'skins had. Was he worth the money? Sounds like another subject to me. Something the coach should answer. What I am saying is... Without Hall, there is a definite downgrade at this position that ranked 30th against the pass last year. Next year, 32nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Here's Rob Jackson's St. Paddy's Day from Funny or Die:http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/243a3de611/rob-jackson-s-st-paddy-s-day In case you missed it the first time.... Click above link to see Rob Jackson on FunnyorDie.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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