State Troopers, NFL star implicated in "Death Race 2012" on New Jersey Highway

[tiger187126]

Since you asked, you are missing that he has stated several times that the cops do not have the authority to allow others or themselves to break the law. You keep saying that if there's a problem, point the finger at the cops. The cops aren't the only ones who did wrong here, therefore the finger can't and shouldn't just simply be pointed at them. And, the drivers of the other vehicles obviously knew what they were doing was highly illegal or they wouldn't have covered up their plates. No one has the right to drive recklessly on a public road or highway, with or without a police escort, unless it is a medical emergency. Putting people's lives in danger is always a serious issue, and should be viewed as such.

i hope he is actually the real ron artest. that's the only reason i can think of that he can blow off everyone else around him and believe only what's in his head.

his defense of jacobs is about the same as metta world peace's defense of his elbow, blissfully ignorant.

[RonArtest15]

Since you asked, you are missing that he has stated several times that the cops do not have the authority to allow others or themselves to break the law. You keep saying that if there's a problem, point the finger at the cops. The cops aren't the only ones who did wrong here, therefore the finger can't and shouldn't just simply be pointed at them. And, the drivers of the other vehicles obviously knew what they were doing was highly illegal or they wouldn't have covered up their plates. No one has the right to drive recklessly on a public road or highway, with or without a police escort, unless it is a medical emergency. Putting people's lives in danger is always a serious issue, and should be viewed as such.

MY issue with this isn't so much with Jacobs as it is with the police who gave the OK for this. That's been my point.

[Koolblue13]

This hardly your average highway. It goes from Philly to AC. I've been involved with a train of cars about 10+ long, all driving together despite not knowing each other and doing the same thing. Everybody drives fast on that road. I think the SL is 70.

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. that attitude that athletes can do whatever they want and are above the law is what gets them in trouble.

Next thing you know, they'll be killing dogs and raping teenagers without getting in trouble.

[Redskins Life]

Next thing you know, they'll be killing dogs and raping teenagers without getting in trouble.

Technically, Vick did kill dogs, tortured and mutilated them as well, and did not get in trouble for it. Before you say he served his time, realize that his slap on the wrist sentence and conviction had absolutely nothing to do with what he did to those dogs. They were 100% for running an illegal gambling ring, one which transferred funds across state lines, making it a federal offense. Had he been holding an illegal car racing club that crossed state lines, it would have been the exact same punishment (though, for you and me it would have been much worse: we would have actually had to serve the minimum amount of time and never would have been granted permission to leave the state to work while on house-arrest and probation). Vick did not pay one cent or serve one minute of time for what he did to those dogs, even though animal cruelty is against the law. What he did goes way beyond that.

Sorry to high-jack this thread. Back on track, I think more information will come out about this convoy in the next few weeks. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[Mr. Sinister]

*Nevermind

[sideshow24]

LOL...this guy.

I said if there is a problem, point the finger at the cops who OK'd this. What exactly am I ignoring?

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Why can't more than one finger be pointed here? The cops and the athletes were both engaged in illegal activity. Unauthorized police escort, reckless driving and obscuring license plates.

[RonArtest15]

i hope he is actually the real ron artest. that's the only reason i can think of that he can blow off everyone else around him and believe only what's in his head.

his defense of jacobs is about the same as metta world peace's defense of his elbow, blissfully ignorant.

Ignorant, because I have a different POV?

Is the crux of the problem Jacobs, or the police?

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Why can't more than one finger be pointed here? The cops and the athletes were both engaged in illegal activity. Unauthorized police escort, reckless driving and obsuring license plates.

And I do agree with what you said....but I would start w. the police first (if we're going w. finger pointing). If there is other illegal activity tied into it by way of bribery, illegal payments etc that link back to Jacobs...then yea...throw the book at him. But that's all speculation. As of now, I'd focus on the state trooper involved and then go from there. IMO, Jacobs is in the clear (for now).

[BillyKilmer]

Ignorant, because I have a different POV?

Is the crux of the problem Jacobs, or the police?

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It is not a either or situation. Everyone who participated needless endangered other drivers using that road. I am thankful no one got hurt in this illegal road race.

And I do agree with what you said....but I would start w. the police first (if we're going w. finger pointing). If there is other illegal activity tied into it by way of bribery, illegal payments etc that link back to Jacobs...then yea...throw the book at him. But that's all speculation. As of now, I'd focus on the state trooper involved and then go from there. IMO, Jacobs is in the clear (for now).

[scyber]

This hardly your average highway. It goes from Philly to AC. I've been involved with a train of cars about 10+ long, all driving together despite not knowing each other and doing the same thing. Everybody drives fast on that road. I think the SL is 70

A) Wrong road. you are thinking of the Atlantic City Expressway (east-west from philly to AC). The Garden State Parkway runs north-south from Montvale, NJ (at the NY border) all the way to Cape May, NJ

State speed limit in NJ is 65.

[Koolblue13]

A) Wrong road. you are thinking of the Atlantic City Expressway (east-west from philly to AC). The Garden State Parkway runs north-south from Montvale, NJ (at the NY border) all the way to Cape May, NJ

State speed limit in NJ is 65.

1- You're correct about the road

2- It's still light speed on it, until you get close to OC and CM.

[zCommander]

I don't think I've ever seen a police escort doing over 100 MPH.

The last time I drove 100mph I got escorted to the shoulder.

[SWFLSkins]

I'm sorry but that's pretty awesome lol. If you're not gonna do something like this, why buy a Lambo in the first place

I met these guys at the Indy St. Petersburg and they have plenty to say on the matter....

http://www.trippfirmracing.com/

[ouvan59]

IMO, Jacobs is in the clear (for now).

Getting clearance from crooked cops = no clearance at all. He'll be in big trouble if they actually do link this back to him. And it astounds me that you try to downplay how friggin dangerous this whole thing was. It doesn't take much for a car driving over 100 MPH to lose control but multiply that by 30 and you get a really, stupid and dangerous activity. If they want to put their one lives in jeopardy on a closed course then by all means have at it. But putting others who have no idea what's coming down the road at risk is criminal.

[RonArtest15]

Getting clearance from crooked cops = no clearance at all. He'll be in big trouble if they actually do link this back to him. And it astounds me that you try to downplay how friggin dangerous this whole thing was. It doesn't take much for a car driving over 100 MPH to lose control but multiply that by 30 and you get a really, stupid and dangerous activity. If they want to put their one lives in jeopardy on a closed course then by all means have at it. But putting others who have no idea what's coming down the road at risk is criminal.

Key word you said..."IF." Because nothing has been linked back to him.

As of NOW, he's in the clear. As I stated earlier.

[ILoveMySkins]

Getting clearance from crooked cops = no clearance at all. He'll be in big trouble if they actually do link this back to him. And it astounds me that you try to downplay how friggin dangerous this whole thing was. It doesn't take much for a car driving over 100 MPH to lose control but multiply that by 30 and you get a really, stupid and dangerous activity. If they want to put their one lives in jeopardy on a closed course then by all means have at it. But putting others who have no idea what's coming down the road at risk is criminal.

Since when are police not allowed to direct traffic. People who think the police didn't have a right to tell this caravan to break traffic law have no idea what they're talking about. I suppose they'd sit at a red light while a traffic cop was waving them through as well just in case a cop was waiting to pull them over at the next block for going through the red. Escorts are allowed as long as they are approved. If the police are doing a 100 then by all means the caravan should as well. This isn't criminal where the officer asked Jacobs to blow some guys head off. There's a big difference here. Sorry about the person who's live was lost in a high speed chase. I lost three friends when their van rolled over in one but if a person pulls over in front of an escort and causes an accident then they'd be charged. That's the difference here. It doesn't sound like the police were allowed to give the escort but that doesn't mean Jacobs was doing anything wrong by accepting one.

[Riggo-toni]

"I've always been a huge fan of yours, Mr. Frankenstein."

[Dan T.]

I heard Jacobs was stopped just short of the state line. Typical.

[ouvan59]

Since when are police not allowed to direct traffic. People who think the police didn't have a right to tell this caravan to break traffic law have no idea what they're talking about. I suppose they'd sit at a red light while a traffic cop was waving them through as well just in case a cop was waiting to pull them over at the next block for going through the red. Escorts are allowed as long as they are approved. If the police are doing a 100 then by all means the caravan should as well. This isn't criminal where the officer asked Jacobs to blow some guys head off. There's a big difference here. Sorry about the person who's live was lost in a high speed chase. I lost three friends when their van rolled over in one but if a person pulls over in front of an escort and causes an accident then they'd be charged. That's the difference here. It doesn't sound like the police were allowed to give the escort but that doesn't mean Jacobs was doing anything wrong by accepting one.

What are you talking about? This wasn't sanctioned by the New Jersey State Police and it wasn't an escort. It was a friggin high speed race where innocent civilians were not warned ahead of time. The Police involved did not have clearance to do this. If they had they would have closed the highway instead of just running interference. This was a dangerous and criminal activity and it will be handled as such.