Spade Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 what if we made it to the Superbowl, and then made AH inactive for the game lol His fat ass will still get a ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDannyBoy Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 His fat ass will still get a ring Cut him before the game starts and leave him in the parking lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 And that´s why Dan Snyder is our owner....he knows his ways with money. Not NFL money he doesn't. Our spending was the reason we had no depth and let our own guys go. Bruce does know NFL money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Well, one thing I am damn near convinced with the Snyder Redsins is that they always were Cap experts. Player talent eval is another story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worstSeat Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Still need to build the guys 23-53 though. 1-22 would be nice too. Ah, the uncapped year. Hid lots of Fat Al's salary and was a great time to dump lots of if not mistakes, then at least older and underperforming players, dollar for dollar. Better lucky than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 gomes is an a Saftey but three safety D are becoming a fad Gomes played everything in college, FS, SS, CB, and LB. Seeing as we have Landry and Atogwe, Gomes will get playing time at nickleback, and when Atogwe needs a breather. Once OJ retires, we move Gomes to FS for the long haul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cope Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I fundamentally disagree with Clayton. We are in the scenario where we need pay at least $45mm in bonuses but only consume $10mm in cap space. This is nothing new for the Skins, but what is different is that every other club is now going to have spend at the levels we have in the past. In other words, there is more cash that has to spent this year with no change to the number of players. Our $s will be spent in a more competitive environment. Expect massive inflation either in the shape of crazy signing bonuses from clubs with no cap space or chunkier longer term deals for the clubs with more cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 And that´s why Dan Snyder is our owner....he knows his ways with money.If he would only let the football people run things, he would be a truly SUCCESSFUL owner. *fingers crossed* However much $ he's making now, he'd make even more with a winning franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Extending Landry would cut a huge chunk out of that $45 million. He's also young enough to sign to a long term contract and thus his bonus can be spread out to lessen the cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Extending Landry would cut a huge chunk out of that $45 million. He's also young enough to sign to a long term contract and thus his bonus can be spread out to lessen the cap hit. Resigning Landry should be the first priority going forward. I think he has more of an impact than any player on our roster in this Defense. I'm sure he'll be resigned though, as the coaching staff speaks well of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheat Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Would much rather go after a cheaper, hard working off the radar zone cb, who plays solid and doesn't take chances, to balance out Hall's gambles. Ike Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Ike Taylor? If he comes at a reasonable price, definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 If he comes at a reasonable price, definitely. Age is a factor with him though, young CB I want is Jonathan Joseph from Cincy would be a good compliment to Hall as Joseph yes does take chances but also shuts down his men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Age is a factor with him though, young CB I want is Jonathan Joseph from Cincy would be a good compliment to Hall as Joseph yes does take chances but also shuts down his men For sure. I wasn't counting out Joesph, just answering about Ike Taylor. Does the proposed 4 year unrestricted add any other CBs to the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Actually was talking about the mixing up of your/you're... lol. Oh, well through me a softball next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolio47 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 lol. Oh, well through me a softball next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 What you are describing is exactly what put us into the cap problems we've had for so long. This is what I meant when I talked about putting it on "the credit card". Now, you've just added 4.9M to the cap in the future but still must meet future payroll. Assuming no upward adjustment of the cap, we'll now only have 5.1M to meet the 2012 payroll (we'll likely also be about 40M short in 2012) without moving even more into the cap out years. Doable? Yes, no question but we would be headed back into the same situation as before only now we wouldn't even have a body.Do NOT want to save money on payroll since that is a FLOOR. Using your numbers, moving McNabb increases our spending requirements by 13-14M but would only save us about 2-3M on the cap (as pointed out above, this is a NEGATIVE cap move). Any money going to Harris has got nothing to do with this. Again, we can absorb the difference here but only via a negative cap move. Every team will be in a similar situation. Again, we do not know numbers, so my examples could be way off. However, the idea still stays the same. What got us before, was not this issue. The issue was spending the money badly. Working the cap was fine. Every team does it. The key is to have the players play out 70% of the contract. Not the AH issue. D-Halls contract is the same setup, however, he won't hurt us as long as he keeps playing the way he does for us. He will play out his contract. As did Santana Moss and others. The killer is if we trade draft picks for vets that bust. If that keeps happening, roster spots 23-52 will never get better. With the new floor, every team is going to have to be creative and actually spend money. The difference for the Skins, they have been doing this already where most teams haven't. This new floor won't hurt the Skins at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 D-Halls contract is the same setup. Halls contract was set-up in a manner that allowed full allocation in the uncapped year of his $15m 2010 bonus. There is very little future cap charge against Hall at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 For sure. I wasn't counting out Joesph, just answering about Ike Taylor. Does the proposed 4 year unrestricted add any other CBs to the market? Couldn't tell you off the top of my head but I'll do some digging around to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Halls contract was set-up in a manner that allowed full allocation in the uncapped year of his $15m 2010 bonus. There is very little future cap charge against Hall at the moment. Correct, as was Haynsworth. Which is what I stated. My point was signing players that we know will play out 70% of the contract. Then the contract doesn't look bad and set the team back. The issue in the past was not of bad contracts only, it was bad contracts to bad players. Setting up contracts as I stated is not an issue at all as long as the player is performing up to 70% of that contract. It is the exact reason why, Washington, Griffin, Portis, Springs, DHall, Moss, and others never hurt the cap. Spend the money, just spend it wisely. I have confident this FO is doing just that. Now trades is another issue. But, just alone on the contracts, I think we finally have a smart man in BA in the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Couldn't tell you off the top of my head but I'll do some digging around to see One guy who is an outstanding player that gets NO love is Brent Grimes. I'd love to have him on our team. Richard Marshall would also be a solid signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Correct, as was Haynsworth. Which is what I stated. Fair enough - just didn't read it that way from your post for some reason. It is the exact reason why, Washington, Griffin, Portis, Springs, DHall, Moss, and others never hurt the cap. Spend the money, just spend it wisely. I have confident this FO is doing just that. I am confident too. But, the uncapped year has helped clear some of the crap up. That is why the Portis contract never hurt the cap, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 gomes is an a Saftey but three safety D are becoming a fad He played a lot of nickel in college and Shanny already said he may get to play some nickel this year. ---------- Post added June-28th-2011 at 08:02 AM ---------- Couldn't tell you off the top of my head but I'll do some digging around to see I would like to go after Brandon Carr from the Ravens. He may be out there looking for a reasonable deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABQCOWBOY Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I lol'd at the Cowboys' situation. After all their talk about how stacked the roster is, they'll have to lose some of the big contracts...Anyone think they'll lose out on Doug Free? The Cowboy's situation is not nearly as bad as it is being made out to be IMO. Dallas has not restructured any contracts to this point. They have a lot of room under restructure. What I think you will see is a few contracts reworked and extended. Romo sits to pee is coming up on a contract so I expect the Cowboys will get that out of the way and simply ease the cap. Nobody really knows what the CBA is going to say so all of this is speculation but we can kinda get an idea I think. Romo sits to pee's cap number in 2011 is over 9 million. I expect they will rework his contract, sign for a longer period of time and push a lot of that money into a signing bonus in order to get him much closer to the vet minimum. Ware and Miles are due 6.7 and 8.54 Million this year respectively. There contracts will also be reworked and funds pushed into Bonus structure to get the cap number down. If you just do those three players, which is a reasonable assumption cause none of those guys are going anywhere any time soon, you can probably save 17.5 Million in cap space. You figure that Brookings (2.5 Million), Colombo (2 Mil), Olshansky (4.5 Mil), Barber (4.25 Mil), Kris Brown (2.5 Mil) and there is a possability that Newman (8 Mil) could be gone. We could also see a guy like Kitna get traded to a team like Miami, Minnesota or Cincy as well. He is scheduled to make (2.6 Mil) this season and while he is very valuable, he represents a very expensive luxury and has trade value. If McGee shows improvement, we could very easily see that kind of move happen. All of these are very realistic cap moves that we could see happen. If the Cowboys wanted to create space, they could easily do it. Lots of guys that could be sent packing and none of them would be players that impact a lot, based on production. Next year, if the Cowboys wanted to, they could get out from under Roy Williams and Bigg's contracts next year, which would create even more cap. At this point, it's all a guessing game but I don't think we will see the Cowboys in to terrible a cap situation this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I hope the Cowboys do all of this. It will put them in cap hell later. What saved the Skins from going into cap hell was the uncapped year. If the CBA is a 10 year agreement like I am hearing, what you are talking about will hurt the cowgirls in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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