HailToTheRedskins14 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Using the Patriots as an example is not a good example. Crumpler was more of a blocking TE which leaves Aaron and Rob. I'm pretty sure they caught most of their passes at the slot WR position plus the Pats passed the ball a lot and spread the ball around to actual WRs and RBs lining up as WRs and coming out of the backfield. The impressive thing about the Pats is Aaron and Rob being rookies. Just another reason to trade Cooley, because he is easy to replace...---------- Post added February-27th-2011 at 04:16 PM ---------- In the 4-3 we had plenty depth. Vinny did a good job in creating a solid defensive roster. Shanahan didn't need to put his greasy hands on the defense... I'll respectfully disagree. I know the D had solid numbers, but I can't think of a better term to describe them than average. Average, average, average. Rarely got a stop when they needed it. I NEVER felt comfortable when the opponent was making a drive with the game on the line. And more times than not we screwed the pooch. Because I just left the Portis thread I'll just say that the whole organization has been average at best for the last 5 years. I can't understand how anyone can look back and find any positives. The players were average, the coaching was average, etc., etc., and that's in a best case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I'd much rather have a Quinn over Miller. With Miller, you'd have to move Orakpo from the Jack to the Sam. Miller is too small to handle the POA at SAM. That said, I'd be happy with a Watt, Quinn, one of the corners or receivers over Ayers. I'd even take a flyer on one of the three QBs. I think Ayers is a need but wouldn't be BPA. Trade back and get a third? Absolutely!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I'll respectfully disagree. I know the D had solid numbers, but I can't think of a better term to describe them than average. Average, average, average. Rarely got a stop when they needed it. I NEVER felt comfortable when the opponent was making a drive with the game on the line. And more times than not we screwed the pooch. Because I just left the Portis thread I'll just say that the whole organization has been average at best for the last 5 years. I can't understand how anyone can look back and find any positives. The players were average, the coaching was average, etc., etc., and that's in a best case scenario. I'll respectfully disagree with that as well. An average defense does not give up back-to-back 90+ -yard touchdown drives to an 0-19 team, ever. That was just pathetic. That defense was awful, ONLY giving up the big play when it killed us the most. Aside from 2007, this team has just been really bad for the past five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Let me remind everyone that, in 2006, Shanny went to great lengths to show no interest at all in Jay Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Let me remind everyone that, in 2006, Shanny went to great lengths to show no interest at all in Jay Cutler. Exactly what I've been thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMayo21 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I'm pretty sure this is all smoke and mirrors. I find it pretty hard to believe that if Gabbert or Newton fall to us at 10 that we wont take them. This is Shanny being Shanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I haven't been too impressed with what I've been seeing from Ayers. Hopefully we can get Von Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Let me remind everyone that, in 2006, Shanny went to great lengths to show no interest at all in Jay Cutler. You could play reverse psych with that. Everyone thinks if he talks up Locker, Newton, Gabbert no chance he takes him.... Keep em guessing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I can't see Matthews in the 2nd round honestly, he's not that good he's a better value in the 5th round and personally whoever takes him round 2 is making a big mistake Yeah, he is not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Von is a huge Dallas Cowboy fan. lol Here he talks about wanting to play for Dallas or Houston: http://www.cbs.com/sports/video/?pid=aBOZtqfNo784M7lQfjW8ZLyK5dQGGeqR&vs=homepage&play=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I haven't been too impressed with what I've been seeing from Ayers. Hopefully we can get Von Miller. Miller is too small. Can't get off blocks and can't play the run. Not worth a top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderDOOM Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 YES, guess that means we're not taking Ayers, or Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I would like for us to grab Hokies cornerback Rashad Carmichael. Plus he is a Big Skins fan. lol, I wonder if the second round is to high for him? I found this in a article after Michael Vick's big game against us, he talks like he is part of the Skins already. Several current Hokies were cheering along with Beamer last night. Even Carmichael, a big Redskins fan. “We’ve got a little work to do in that secondary,” he said, calling Vick’s game an “A-plus-plus-plus. He had a great game. It was just like he was in college again. It looked like he was having fun again. I was also watching (DeAngelo) Hall. I try to keep up with him to see if I can learn anything. (Vick) beat (Hall) on a couple plays. I was just wondering what they had to say about that after the game, when D-Hall and Vick got to talk.” http://hamptonroads.com/2010/11/miami-week-vol-3-hokies-face-miamis-backup-qb-amazed-former-vt-qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I'm pretty sure this is all smoke and mirrors. I find it pretty hard to believe that if Gabbert or Newton fall to us at 10 that we wont take them. This is Shanny being Shanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I would love Von Miller as much as anyone, but one of the advantages to having so many holes is that there are so many options for us in the draft. Miller, Green, Jones, Ayers, Gabbert, and the list goes on of people who wouldn't disappoint me at #10. We have the #30th ranked defense and we are transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in a draft filled with 3-4 defensive guys. Anything other than defense at #10 would be a huge dissapointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeast Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I bet it's a smoke screen like others have mentioned. It's a poker game and the real bluffing starts now. The problem is who has sat at the table with Shanny before and can read his "tell"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Von is a huge Dallas Cowboy fan. lol Here he talks about wanting to play for Dallas or Houston: http://www.cbs.com/sports/video/?pid=aBOZtqfNo784M7lQfjW8ZLyK5dQGGeqR&vs=homepage&play=true He'll learn how to hate the Boys once he has on B&G for a lil while. ---------- Post added February-27th-2011 at 08:54 PM ---------- I haven't been too impressed with what I've been seeing from Ayers. Hopefully we can get Von Miller. Yeah I have a feeling Ayers will be a bust. Hopefully the Cowboys take him and the two CBs are gone by #9. ---------- Post added February-27th-2011 at 08:57 PM ---------- I would like for us to grab Hokies cornerback Rashad Carmichael. Plus he is a Big Skins fan. lol, I wonder if the second round is to high for him?I found this in a article after Michael Vick's big game against us, he talks like he is part of the Skins already. Several current Hokies were cheering along with Beamer last night. Even Carmichael, a big Redskins fan. “We’ve got a little work to do in that secondary,” he said, calling Vick’s game an “A-plus-plus-plus. He had a great game. It was just like he was in college again. It looked like he was having fun again. I was also watching (DeAngelo) Hall. I try to keep up with him to see if I can learn anything. (Vick) beat (Hall) on a couple plays. I was just wondering what they had to say about that after the game, when D-Hall and Vick got to talk.” http://hamptonroads.com/2010/11/miami-week-vol-3-hokies-face-miamis-backup-qb-amazed-former-vt-qb Yeah we had talked to him but he is projected to go in the fourth. I'd take a chance on him if he is there in the 5th round. I would like to put him at FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCitySkin Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Shanahan doesn't show his cards. If he says we're taking a OLB, then we're probably taking anything but an OLB. If he says he likes Locker, we're not taking a QB. Look for DE, WR, Mark Ingram, or trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Godfather Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Look for DE, WR, Mark Ingram, or trade down. Shanahan will not be drafting Mark Ingram with the 10th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I'm certainly on board with this. We need all the help we can on defense with our new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilburmarshall Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I would love Von Miller as much as anyone, but one of the advantages to having so many holes is that there are so many options for us in the draft. Miller, Green, Jones, Ayers, Gabbert, and the list goes on of people who wouldn't disappoint me at #10. Von would be nice, but I really like Ayers. Been watching him all year. If Miller is gone @ 10, which he will be, I would love to see us fall back in the 1st and pick up Ayers. This also could be a smoke screen, so a team won't trade up before the 10 spot, to pick a QB that Shanny wants. ---------- Post added February-28th-2011 at 08:08 AM ---------- Casey Mathews anyone? Just because its a priority doesn't mean we need to use our first rounder. Dareus then Mathews would be nice. Maybe in the 4th round. He is too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Shanahan will not be drafting Mark Ingram with the 10th pick. I tend to agree. Ingram is a great back but Shanahan has never placed high priority on that position. He tends to get by with a combination of late draft picks and second tier free agent signings. With the short lifespan of the position I think it's a little foolish to spend a high pick on one. He also seem to be a fairly similar, although better, version of Ryan Torain. I'm on board with addressing OLB but I'd like a guy with some coverage ability. Orakpo is a great speed rusher but he doesn't have a ton of moves or much coverage ability. It would be nice to get a guy that somewhat contrasts that rather than having two of the same player. That being said it would still be extremely difficult to block two Orakpos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I would love Von Miller as much as anyone, but one of the advantages to having so many holes is that there are so many options for us in the draft. Miller, Green, Jones, Ayers, Gabbert, and the list goes on of people who wouldn't disappoint me at #10. I agree. I'd take any of those at 10. And to everyone: Don't put it past Shanahan to blow smoke up the media's butt. He rarely shows his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I agree. I'd take any of those at 10.And to everyone: Don't put it past Shanahan to blow smoke up the media's butt. He rarely shows his hand. The 10th pick is getting better each day. At this point it seems like one of the top QBs, WRs, DTs, or CBs will be on the board when we pick. We need help everywhere, so we can add a player if someone we covet is there or I think we'll have a great shot to move down. 10th overall isn't that difficult to trade out of. Top 5 is brutal with the bonuses. Of course if a new CBA is agreed upon that could all be moot... but I think we'll be receiving a lot of calls from teams looking to move up. I wouldn't trust Shanahan as far as I could throw him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I figured we already had that in Orakpo... You can get a good LB in the 2nd round I think we should go in a different direction in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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