Hubbs Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 This is part of a larger flaw in the thinking of most coaches, and I've never understood it. Philly was in a "blank" down and goal situation. Shanny knew for a fact that they would either score or give the ball up. Either way, the Redskins would get the ball. We could either run a 2-minute drill, or we could get it with 19 seconds left and take a knee. Shanny chose the latter, for reasons I can't possibly fathom. And a lot of coaches make the same mistake. It's incomprehensible. What's the negative of taking the time outs? Philly can control the clock enough to score. You're not preventing that by not taking the time outs. You're preventing your own chance to score. Which is asinine. Yet that's what we just did. :doh: Is it possible to wise Shanny up somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 17-6. Nuff said. Calm down, Hubbs. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallascrushers Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I think the thought process was that if we would have been calling the time outs it would have been actually an advantage for the eagles especially since they were driving down the field on us the entire drive....luckily they had the delay of game penalty and they settled for a field goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwpanic Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 i'm guessing he was THRILLED to be up 11 at the half and didn't want to risk a turnover. the right move, imo. why nitpick after a great 1st half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Well. He just used one, I think he knows how to call them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 17-6. Nuff said. Calm down, Hubbs. :doh: I'm not saying I'm not pleased as a whole, I'm saying this is an area in which Shanahan is making mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 I think the thought process was that if we would have been calling the time outs it would have been actually an advantage for the eagles especially since they were driving down the field on us the entire drive....luckily they had the delay of game penalty and they settled for a field goal. How? How is it an advantage for the Eagles once they're in the down-and-goal situation? They had enough control of the clock to be able to score. There was absolutely no question that the Eagles would not allow the clock to expire while they had the ball. So calling a time out wouldn't have affected the Eagles at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaSkins Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 And now the Skins just used their second of the second half. Does anyone else think that the TOs are more important than the penatly yardage at this point of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 i'm guessing he was THRILLED to be up 11 at the half and didn't want to risk a turnover. the right move, imo.why nitpick after a great 1st half? Not want to risk a turnover simply by being on offense? How is that at all a smart idea? Well.He just used one, I think he knows how to call them Right, he just doesn't know when to call them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethe cowboys Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 No one knows how to use timeouts in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Right, he just doesn't know when to call them. I hope you know I was joking. Plus, in that situation I'd rather lose 5 yards on a delay of game. Time outs can be very, very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Didn't Donovan call one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I hope you know I was joking.Plus, in that situation I'd rather lose 5 yards on a delay of game. Time outs can be very, very important. So can those five yards... could be be the difference in turning the ball back over on a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Didn't Donovan call one? I'm talking about when we were on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 if your talking in the first half, remember if the Eagles have more time, maybe they try something different/ less predictaible to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I HATE burning timeouts. Honestly, I'd rather just eat the 5 yard penalty more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backpack3r Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I hope you know I was joking.Plus, in that situation I'd rather lose 5 yards on a delay of game. Time outs can be very, very important. No way, you gotta take the TO in that situation. 5 yards = end of drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 17-6. Nuff said. Calm down, Hubbs. :doh: So is this the answer for everything this week, because Hubbs is a 100% right. The clock management is horrible with this team and it will come back to bit them sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thank goodness we didn't need them in the second half, because we burned two WAY early in the third quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Why call a timeout at the end when Bidwell's punting from the Eagles 40? Save it, and take the delay penalty. The 5 yards would have been an advantage for Bidwell -- if he didn't suck as a punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helptheSKINS Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Great post Hubbs. Couldn't believe he didn't use the timeouts. If Zorn did that he'd be blasted. If the skins lost there would be a lot more people asking what possible reason he could of had to not give the offense 1:30 to drive for a possible score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I agree. But at least he is not as bad as Andy Reid. Has there ever been a worse game manager in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 There was absolutely no question that the Eagles would not allow the clock to expire while they had the ball. Never underestimate the power of Andy Reid game management. He makes Les Miles look like a savant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriously Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 There are no doubt going to be mistakes in a game, 3 that stick out to be "game changers" 1- Armstrong falling down where he should have scored (not complaining, nice catch) 2- McNabb not just sliding instead of going out of bounds (adding probably 20 or so seconds) 3- Rogers not catching (nothing new of course) Now I'm not denying we would be a lot better off with Trent in the game, that alone helps a lot where Heyer is garbage.. Well, him and the Sellers experiment need to end. This win was just that, a win and I personally feel Vick leaving didn't help us win- Kolb moved the ball from the moment he came in and Vick couldn't. I'm not sure if Shanny's timeouts are just the only "suspect" here, there are a lot of things that make me wonder.... On both sides of the ball, not being able to stop the draw, over and over and over.. The lack of 2 TE sets (maybe something to do with Heyer being in) and the constant play action, is going to get McNabb hurt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 if your talking in the first half, remember if the Eagles have more time, maybe they try something different/ less predictaible to score. No they wouldn't. They had plenty of time. The clock was not a factor in their playcalling. I'm not sure if Shanny's timeouts are just the only "suspect" here, there are a lot of things that make me wonder.... On both sides of the ball, not being able to stop the draw, over and over and over.. The lack of 2 TE sets (maybe something to do with Heyer being in) and the constant play action, is going to get McNabb hurt... I didn't say they were the only suspect. I only said that they were a mistake. Never underestimate the power of Andy Reid game management. He makes Les Miles look like a savant. That's a great point. Calling time outs would depend on Andy Reid not being an absolutely horrible clock manager. Maybe Shanahan is a genius after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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