McD5 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 54 seems low. Although he didn't do anything last season when healthy. 40-45 sounds right. Maybe the extra 10 spots is on the belief that he will get injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 26, 2010 Author Share Posted August 26, 2010 54 seems low. Although he didn't do anything last season when healthy.40-45 sounds right. Maybe the extra 10 spots is on the belief that he will get injured. Even 40-45 is too low, IMO. Yeah he was hurt last year, but every year he's played a full season he's had at least 1,100yds and he's only had 2 seasons cut short due to injury. For the record, Betts is #67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Even 40-45 is too low, IMO. Yeah he was hurt last year, but every year he's played a full season he's had at least 1,100yds and he's only had 2 seasons cut short due to injury. For the record, Betts is #67. So basically, Scouts rates them about even. Could you imagine if we had a competent FO that had traded Portis years ago for a great receiver or real linemen? God. It's decisions like that which can turn an entire franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 26, 2010 Author Share Posted August 26, 2010 So basically, Scouts rates them about even.Could you imagine if we had a competent FO that had traded Portis years ago for a great receiver or real linemen? God. It's decisions like that which can turn an entire franchise. Well going by this list, we should trade Portis for Clifton Smith. So I don't know how accurate this list is. And I'm a huge CP supporter, so you know what my answer would be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I've got problems with the order of the top 10, much less CP being left off the top 20. I still say MJD is in the top 3 and maybe #1. Dude is the absolute only thing keeping the Jaguars in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel25 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 All 3 dallas rbs are rated better than portis? no bull, so they don't think CP would even make the cowboys roster? and at 54, they don't think he would start on ANY team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Bulletin board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Wow, that is insane. LJ and Cadillac and MB ahead of him? Laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Did Matt Mosley write this article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 26, 2010 Author Share Posted August 26, 2010 Did Matt Mosley write this article? I thought the same thing, but he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 That's a surprise...it would take a real Cowgirls homer to put Marion Barber at #10 and Clinton Portis at #54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 26, 2010 Author Share Posted August 26, 2010 That's a surprise...it would take a real Cowgirls homer to put Marion Barber at #10 and Clinton Portis at #54 Hell all 3 Cowboys RBs are ahead of CP. And 2 of the 3 Bucs RBs are ahead of CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/scouting/_/position/910. Marion Barber 11. Jamaal Charles 12. Joseph Addai 13. Pierre Thomas 14. Brian Westbrook 15. Cedric Benson 16. Rashard Mendenhall 17. Ricky Williams 18. Ahmad Bradshaw 19. Chester Taylor 20. Darren Sproles 26. Steve Slaton 30. Matt Forte 31. Fred Jackson 40. Michael Bush 41. Bernard Scott 42. Jerious Norwood 43. Kevin Smith 45. Derrick Ward 48. Clifton Smith 49. Donald Brown 50. Kevin Faulk 51. Maurice Morris 52. Sammy Morris 53. Tashard Choice How did these guys even make the list? And behind Portis? The whole list is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 That's a surprise...it would take a real Cowgirls homer to put Marion Barber at #10 and Clinton Portis at #54 Less mileage, better work ethic and not a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 26, 2010 Author Share Posted August 26, 2010 Less mileage, better work ethic and not a headache. Since when does less mileage make you a better RB? If that's the case give me Ryan Matthews and CJ Spiller over Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail_Skinz Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 That list is an absolute atrocity! What a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Less mileage, better work ethic and not a headache. Never broken 1000 yards in a season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Since when does less mileage make you a better RB? If that's the case give me Ryan Matthews and CJ Spiller over Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson. Less mileage is always preferred. Would you rather have a Denver Broncos version of Portis, or the one we have seen here the last few years? One that now has suffered a concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Less mileage, better work ethic and not a headache. Since when does less mileage make you a better RB? If that's the case give me Ryan Matthews and CJ Spiller over Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson. In 99% of RB conversations I'd agree with Matt completely but for some reason if we're only talking about Barber and Portis and only at the current stage in their careers, I gotta go with McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 someone please show this to CP.... i really believe that CP is gonna shine this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 brutal list I stopped reading when they had LJ ranked ahead of CP lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt'n Obvious Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 As others have said, this list is horrible. I'd have Portis in the top 20 easily, and most of these guys would be way further down than they are on this list (Barber, Westbrook, Slaton, etc.) Hopefully CP proves his doubters wrong and has a big year this year. I would put him higher on this list simply because of his pass blocking. He is more complete a back than a number of people listed ahead of him. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Less mileage, better work ethic and not a headache. You actually think that alone places Barber 44 stinkin' spots ahead of Portis? lol ...Jeebus, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 You actually think that alone places Barber 44 stinkin' spots ahead of Portis? lol ...Jeebus, man. Here is the same problem we always have on this site. Until this season, the media always says we suck. Posters call them stupid and biased. Then we suck, and the media has been right all along. Yet people still don't get it. They never learn. Put yourself in the writer's shoes. Do you think he has bothered to see a Skins preseason game this year, and is aware that Portis has looked a little better? Have you watched an equally bad (last year's team record) Detroit Lions or Oakland Raiders preseason game this year? Of course not. Why would you want to? So he is going on last season. And last season, Portis averaged only 60 yards a game when he was healthy. 60 yards! He wouldn't have started for any other team in the league after 60 yards a game. Only Dan. He came in overweight and lazy, did absolutely nothing, then got a concussion. Betts, Rock and Ganther all looked as good as, or better than Portis last year. So....based on last year...when he was healthy....54 isn't that far off. Certainly no higher than 40. No way. If he was 40, what were Rock and Ganther--two players who haven't suffered concussions on top of everything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Here is the same problem we always have on this site.Until this season, the media always says we suck. Posters call them stupid and biased. Then we suck, and the media has been right all along. Yet people still don't get it. They never learn. Put yourself in the writer's shoes. Do you think he has bothered to see a Skins preseason game this year, and is aware that Portis has looked a little better? Have you watched an equally bad (last year's team record) Detroit Lions or Oakland Raiders preseason game this year? Of course not. Why would you want to? So he is going on last season. None of that addresses what I said to YOU, though...which was if YOU felt generic things like "hard worker" and "not a headache" should place Barber 44 spots ahead of Portis. Yes. Or no. And what kind of writer would base how anyone on the Skins will do this year based on last year only? We've made such HUGE, wholesale changes in the most important areas of the team that it's beyond stupid to think anything about this year's squad should be based on last year's squad...to the point that we should be ridiculing anyone who does, not defending that horrid type of "analysis". But, since your logic supporting Barber's lofty position was just as flawed as this guy's logic appears to be, I can see why you'd relate to it so well lol ... And last season, Portis averaged only 60 yards a game when he was healthy. 60 yards! He wouldn't have started for any other team in the league after 60 yards a game. Only Dan. Actually it was 61.8 yards per game for Portis. Barber? Barber averaged 62.1 yards a game. 62.1 yards! Apparently those extra .3 yards made all the difference for you and the writer, and vaulted Barber up 44 freakin' spots over Portis ...and yes, Barber averaged a low 14 carries per game. Portis averaged 15 carries per game. And yes, Barber ran behind a MUCH MUCH MUCH better line with a MUCH MUCH MUCH better offensive coordinator calling the plays and a MUCH MUCH MUCH better passing game to keep the defenses honest...and it resulted in a whopping .3 extra yards per game. Betts, Rock and Ganther all looked as good as, or better than Portis last year. That's why they all averaged less yards per carry than Portis did last year. Makes perfect sense. If he was 40, what were Rock and Ganther--two players who haven't suffered concussions on top of everything else? What...2 guys who have yet to actually be used to any degree for even half a season, nonetheless proven that they can produce for an entire season?...I'd imagine they'd fall somewhere below all those RBs who HAVE shown over and over again that they can produce when healthy. And guess what...Portis is one of those backs. And guess what (again)...Portis IS healthy this year. This is beyond simple to understand...well, for anyone who is not automatically anti-Portis. Or named McD5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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