Maryland OT Bruce Campbell = Redskin?

[Laxpunk2006]

I just think his ceiling is high enough where it would be worth it, probably the highest ceiling for any ZBS tackle in the draft. Would take developing though. but he's being called "lazy" and not enough "mental stamina". Those issues can definitely be solved by Shanahan. Zorn, on the other hand, wouldn't be able to break him.

There is really no basis for this statement. I'm not sure what involvement Zorn or Shanahan would even have in developing an OL prospect. If Zorn was still here we'd have to assume Buges would be and I don't see Bugel having trouble "breaking" a prospect. Shanahan will likely be more involved as he isn't also the play caller and QB coach but even so we have an offensive line coach for this matter.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

Your right that's exactly what I meant to say, wow good thing your here to tell me what I am thinking. How about you just post for me. Are you sure about that trading back migh be a problem, I don't know about that I mean usually you can easily force 3rd parties to do what you want. That's why I didn't bother to include another option at 4. Thank you again please feel free to tell me what I am thinking at any time cuz I sure don't know. Of course if I really expressed what I was thinkIng I would most likely get banned.

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dude, calm down. I'm not trying to "tell you what you're thinking". I'm simply reading what you already wrote. I'm sorry you have a hard time conveying your thoughts in written form.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

There is really no basis for this statement. I'm not sure what involvement Zorn or Shanahan would even have in developing an OL prospect. If Zorn was still here we'd have to assume Buges would be and I don't see Bugel having trouble "breaking" a prospect. Shanahan will likely be more involved as he isn't also the play caller and QB coach but even so we have an offensive line coach for this matter.

What I meant by "breaking" him is strictly in regards to his attitude and character. By no means am I talking about developing technique, which goes to the position coaches. Attitude issues are usually taken care of by the head coach. We had a lot of character concerns last year because many players didn't take Zorn very seriously, despite what they may have told the media about him. Shanahan demands respect and attention, so what I mean is that he can straighten out players with these character concerns better than Zorn would have.

[gutlead74]

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dude, calm down. I'm not trying to "tell you what you're thinking". I'm simply reading what you already wrote. I'm sorry you have a hard time conveying your thoughts in written form.

Reading and comprehension are seperate things.

[[[ghost]]]

taking two workout warriors two years in a row scares me.

let al davis worry about this guy.

Why would that scare you? Orakpo turned out to be a gem. That shouldnbe encouraging if anything.

He'd be good in the 2nd but his injury concerns are worrying.

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

Understand I am not endorsing Bruce at 4 (like it matters what I endorse) but he could be good in our scheme and should be considered in the second or if we trade back. I personally prefer Trent and buluga.

Okay, what else could this imply? Honestly. Can I get a witness?

[VaBeachRedskin]

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One of the traps that football personnel evaluators have to constantly remain vigilant against is overvaluing one facet of a position; this often happens, for example, with quarterbacks and arm strength. As important as velocity is for a passer, it is rather meaningless unless it is combined with accuracy. Passing power can be so alluring that it is easy to give it more credence than it deserves if one isn’t careful.

That mindset also comes into play for left tackles and pass blocking in large part because of “The Blind Side” (first as a book, then as a movie); the public’s perception of pass blocking is now at the loftiest of heights.

As important as protecting the passer is for the left tackle position, two moves made by NFL teams the past two seasons show that professional talent evaluators still understand the value of run blocking at that position.

The first was when the Miami Dolphins drafted Michigan left tackle Jake Long as the No. 1 pick in the 2008 draft. Long was a good pass blocker — but he was an elite run blocker, and it was the combination of these traits (not just his ability to protect the corner of the offensive line) that moved him to the top slot in the selection process.

The second was when the Philadelphia Eagles traded for Buffalo left tackle Jason Peters this past offseason. According to the metrics I compiled for Scientific Football 2009, Peters was coming off of a season where he was tied for last place with Houston’s Duane Brown for most sacks allowed among left tackles.

It may have seemed odd for the Eagles to be willing to part with a first and fourth round draft pick for someone coming off of a pass blocking season like that, but a look at the run metrics shows why Philly wanted Peters. Peters’ 90.9% Point of Attack (POA) run block win percentage was the 2nd highest among left tackles and 8th best among all offensive linemen. The Eagles obviously valued his ability to keep Donovan McNabb from getting hit but they also wanted his help in solving their short-yardage running woes and that was likely the clincher in closing the deal.

I bring all of this up because of what the metrics said about Maryland left tackle Bruce Campbell (currently listed as the No. 12 pick on Todd McShay’s Mock Draft 1.0). Let’s start with his pass blocking.

Campbell allowed three splash plays (defined as when a defender does something to negatively impact a passing play) in the five Terrapin games I broke down (at California, vs. Clemson, vs. Virginia, at Florida State and vs. Boston College).

As noted in the Trent Williams Draft Lab (read that here), the best professional pass rushers allow four or fewer splash plays in a season — so this isn’t a dominant number. Having said that, it does compare favorably to Williams’ splash play totals (four in five games) and was much better than the number tallied in Anthony Davis’ Draft Lab (eight splash plays in five games).

Going on those numbers alone, I would have considered Campbell a solid professional left tackle prospect, but his stock shot up considerably when reviewing the run metric totals. Campbell was at the Point of Attack (POA) of a running play 38 times and won 35 of his blocks. That equates to a 92.1% POA win percentage, which, as detailed in the Peters analysis, would be an elite number in the NFL. In addition, Campbell received double team blocking help on only 11 of those plays, so his one-on-one POA win percentage was a superb 88.9%.

The scouting eye notes on Campbell’s run blocking weren’t quite as good as numbers, but they were still almost entirely positive. One bright spot was that he was used as a pulling tackle quite often, which is an underrated skill that many NFL teams would take advantage of. His biggest issue is that he didn’t consistently finish his blocks. That would be a problem if it were due to a lack of effort, but in Campbell’s case it was inconsistent technique, so it is something that should be able to be coached out of him. From a pass blocking viewpoint, the major scouting eye concern is that Campbell received a lot of help from other blockers; this made me look back at the numbers, which showed Campbell received some kind of assistance from another blocker on 31 out of 120 dropback pass plays. That is a bit higher than one would expect from an elite pass blocker, but it is probably more due to Maryland’s heavy use of zone blocking and facing two teams with 3-4 schemes than it is a sign that Campbell has blocking issues.

The Football Scientist Lab Result: If I were to grade the three left tackles reviewed thus far in the Draft Lab series, I would rate Campbell No. 1, Davis No. 2 and Williams No. 3. I plan to focus on Oklahoma State Cowboys OT Russell Okung in an upcoming edition as well. Campbell is just as — if not more — adept at guarding the blindside as the other two and there is every reason to think he could develop into a dominant NFL run blocker. That doesn’t seem to be the consensus perception of his skills and that disparity means that he receives a TFS seal of approval.

KC Joyner's take on Campbell.

[gutlead74]

Okay, what else could this imply? Honestly. Can I get a witness?

Well I say we should consider Bruce in the second if we trade back then I say I prefer Trent or buluga, pretty clear I would think. Then I say okung would be a viable option if Bradford was gone and we wouldn't be able to trade back. Both were missed by you but yet you blame me. Sure fine it's my fault you don't understand I apologize.

[gutlead74]

];7327132']Why would that scare you? Orakpo turned out to be a gem. That shouldnbe encouraging if anything.

He'd be good in the 2nd but his injury concerns are worrying.

Huge difference is Rak showed on film every week every play.

[Laxpunk2006]

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KC Joyner's take on Campbell.

Now I really don't know what to think about this guy.

[Spartacus87]

Now I really don't know what to think about this guy.

Seriously.

The guy's an athletic freak. But his work ethic and consistency have been criticized heavily before, which are a couple of huge red flags.

I think he's too big of a risk at 4th overall, but he could be worth watching in the 2nd round.

[VaBeachRedskin]

Now I really don't know what to think about this guy.

Was it because KC Joyner said he was the best LT he has graded so far?

[mistertim]

Seriously.

The guy's an athletic freak. But his work ethic and consistency have been criticized heavily before, which are a couple of huge red flags.

I think he's too big of a risk at 4th overall, but he could be worth watching in the 2nd round.

I doubt with his crazy athleticism and possible upside he will make it out of the first. Remember...there is an insane old man over in California who goes completely gaga for guys who run fast and are physical freaks.

[Streater101]

Kinda saddens me that Buges picks the one year where we actually would be able to give him some blue chip talent to work with. I think is just the kind of athlete our front 5 needs - if he makes it to 37.

[skinsngibbs4life]

After seeing what Campbell is doing at the combine, I dont see anyway he would make it into the second. The guy is just a physical freak.

[TheREALJBird]

Al Davis has a recent knack for drafting overhyped UMD prospects, wouldn't shock me to see him draft Campbell higher than he should.

[jflow78]

];7327132']Why would that scare you? Orakpo turned out to be a gem. That shouldnbe encouraging if anything.

He'd be good in the 2nd but his injury concerns are worrying.

If he ends up being rated in the early 2nd or late first, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Al Davis takes him at 8. You know how Davis loves him some speed.

[redskin mark]

Bruce Campbell = a faster Stephon Heyer

You be the judge!

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

Well I say we should consider Bruce in the second if we trade back then I say I prefer Trent or buluga, pretty clear I would think. Then I say okung would be a viable option if Bradford was gone and we wouldn't be able to trade back. Both were missed by you but yet you blame me. Sure fine it's my fault you don't understand I apologize.

No, not so clear. Why don't I break this down for you? You said you wouldn't take Bruce at 4, only if we traded down. THEN, you said you'd prefer Trent or Bulaga. Those are two separate statements, implying that if don't trade down, you'd want Trent or Bulaga. Otherwise, we'd take Bruce, right? That would be according to what you said. I know this really isn't a big deal and obviously a misunderstanding, but you've been patronizing me since I first responded to your post. I don't know what your problem is, dude.

[wilco_holland]

Why play him at LT if he runs like a TE....the dude should be a allround TE, good strong blocker and solid speed

He would make a nice combo with a workout warrior from Maryland playing in SF....he can be the more blocking guy, Veron can be the more recieving TE. SB for SF

There is only one player that can chance Al Davis mind, that is Carlos Dunlap. Workout warrior with qeustionable workettic and inconsistent on the field. Just the type of players they like in Oakland.

[TheREALJBird]

Bruce Campbell = a faster Stephon Heyer

You be the judge!

Well Stephon Heyer was a UDFA, Bruce Campbell isn't quite that bad. Measurables and athleticism aren't even close either.

[Spartacus87]

Why play him at LT if he runs like a TE....the dude should be a allround TE, good strong blocker and solid speed

Campbell's the ultimate Swinging Gate threat.

[VaBeachRedskin]

There is only one player that can chance Al Davis mind, that is Carlos Dunlap. Workout warrior with qeustionable workettic and inconsistent on the field. Just the type of players they like in Oakland.

Actually it would be Jason Pierre-Paul since he is actually being considered as a top 15 pick.

[TheREALJBird]

Campbell's the ultimate Swinging Gate threat.

Ugh, if I ever see us run a swinging gate again I'm gonna be swinging fists at Danny Smith:silly:

[The Cowboy Bamma Rocker]

Why play him at LT if he runs like a TE....the dude should be a allround TE, good strong blocker and solid speed

He would make a nice combo with a workout warrior from Maryland playing in SF....he can be the more blocking guy, Veron can be the more recieving TE. SB for SF

There is only one player that can chance Al Davis mind, that is Carlos Dunlap. Workout warrior with qeustionable workettic and inconsistent on the field. Just the type of players they like in Oakland.

Well, you could put him in a lorenzo alexander type role, make him eligible on the goal line